I'm sorry I'm beating a dead horse... I miss the Endurance Run :(

I started re-watching the Persona 4 ER a couple of nights ago; I'm a sad, lonely person. I would really like another ER. Also, GAH what is wrong with you jeez get over it already what's your problem they don't want to do it move on with your life shut up.

" The Persona 4 Endurance Run is the best thing that has, and ever will, come from this site for me. I heavily doubt any other Endurance Run could surpass the original.  Yeah, and the lack of recent content from the site is disheartening. "

i would honestly love it if them to do another ER.  but i mean i think we should just leave it be.  they could be investing their time and energy into a different and awesome video series here on GB.  i would rather watch that, than a completely forced ER.   

I think the only real reason they ever said "the more you ask, the less likely you'll get one" is just to say that.. well these wouldn't be as good if they were forced. As it stands, I don't think another one will happen for a while, if at all. If the right game rolls around, and the right amount of enthusiasm for that game is developed by the staffers, I don't see why it couldn't happen. But it's just not entirely likely, especially with everyone just constantly asking for a new one, it takes a bit away from the spontaneity of the ERs.

Jeff has also stated that the suggestions given by people in the forums are not great and so off the mark. If it happens it it happens but don't ask or cry for one.

The main reason I liked the ER was the fact that it was part of my morning ritual.  
I woke up early and watched the ER while having breakfast, just before I head to work. 
 
I would love to have that back again, but I can wait.

" I really miss Endurance Run content.  No one is out of line for requesting that kind of content.  It may be repetitive, and I certainly don't condone hundreds of new forum topics on the subject, but the community (especially the paid members) has the right to ask for said content.  I think it's ridiculous to set up a mandate saying that "the more you ask for it, the less likely it is that we do it".  That kind of philosophy is inherently bogus and propels a false calmness that impairs demand.  It's okay to say that one doesn't want to do something, but then it's similarly okay for the opposition to voice its displeasure.  
EDIT:  I also agree with most of the sentiments here that are condemning the lack of video content.  While I certainly enjoy all of the content available to me, I think that the business model at Giant Bomb should still be focused on the personalities of the site.  I want to be overloaded with fresh new content, not regimented by a predetermined, largely-unfulfilled, stream of promised weekly rations.  I understand that timing and originality are a factor, but ultimately that's why we're paying you.  This is no longer a game of "hey, show up for all of our crazy shenanigans this week", this has evolved into a relatively significant monetarily-driven exchange.  Content for capital.  I'm not unhappy (at all!), but I'm sharing my inherently valuable information, as a consumer, subscriber and business mind in the form of raw feedback.  To sum up, I would paint myself as underwhelmed, not unsatisfied. "

Requests are fine until they turn into entitlement cries.

They were great, sure but youtube is filled with them. To me "Endurance Run" is just a slow way of saying "Let's Play"  "

I would pay for another Endurance Run. I'm sure many would as well. Get on that plus the PayPal support = easily over 15k subscriptions.

Doesn't matter if you paid them for a new Endurance Run. If the feeling ain't right and their hearts aren't in it, then the product won't be as entertaining. Paraphrasing Jeff, the right game has to come along and they all might just one day look at each other and go, "Yep, it's time." You can't force this stuff. 
 
And I agree with Blair and Rannos22's sentiments; there's something missing right now at the heart of Giant Bomb and I think it might be regular video features that made us fall in love with the site in the first place, like the Endurance Run, TANG, Video Things, etc. The Bombcast, TNT, and the Happy Hour are great features, but as a whole I feel like they don't entirely capture Giant Bomb's... quirk... or uniqueness.
 
Hopefully they have some awesome new features up their sleeve to grab us back in in the near future.

It'll come back or the gb crew would stop saying they'd ever do another one. They want to remind people that that thing still exists so that when the new one does hit, everybody will be excited. Also, they may say that the ERs are bad for the site seeing how much time they take but there's a little thing called traffic that compensates for that.

Good riddance

I have to be honest, the thing that got me coming to GiantBomb every day was their Endurance Run. After that I fell in love with everything else, but it started with P4. 

Mortal Kombat Endurance Run

" @Blair said:

" I really miss Endurance Run content.  No one is out of line for requesting that kind of content.  It may be repetitive, and I certainly don't condone hundreds of new forum topics on the subject, but the community (especially the paid members) has the right to ask for said content.  I think it's ridiculous to set up a mandate saying that "the more you ask for it, the less likely it is that we do it".  That kind of philosophy is inherently bogus and propels a false calmness that impairs demand.  It's okay to say that one doesn't want to do something, but then it's similarly okay for the opposition to voice its displeasure.  
EDIT:  I also agree with most of the sentiments here that are condemning the lack of video content.  While I certainly enjoy all of the content available to me, I think that the business model at Giant Bomb should still be focused on the personalities of the site.  I want to be overloaded with fresh new content, not regimented by a predetermined, largely-unfulfilled, stream of promised weekly rations.  I understand that timing and originality are a factor, but ultimately that's why we're paying you.  This is no longer a game of "hey, show up for all of our crazy shenanigans this week", this has evolved into a relatively significant monetarily-driven exchange.  Content for capital.  I'm not unhappy (at all!), but I'm sharing my inherently valuable information, as a consumer, subscriber and business mind in the form of raw feedback.  To sum up, I would paint myself as underwhelmed, not unsatisfied. "

I (almost) cannot agree with this more. I realize that there's been a couple conventions and bouts of illness, but lately it seems like Giant Bomb isn't what it used to be. This is most evident in the weekly bombcast which used to be one of my favorite podcasts: being both very funny and sometimes, quite informative. Now, with the NDX schism and the increasingly longer podcasts, the bombcast is a dull, overly long audio slog; being both overly informative and only occasionally funny. It used to be that at least once a week I could come here and find myself, almost literally, laughing aloud. Now I can barely get through most of these quick looks without nodding off. Giant Bomb NEEDS something like a Endurance Run or TANG as a kick in the pants and I, for one, wouldn't mind at all if that meant trimming/dropping TNT, Happy Hour or even the bombcast. "

I'd be totally down for Yakuza 4 enduracne Run. That quick look was awesome

I don't really understand the whole sentiment of being less likely to do Endurance Runs when people ask for them. The whole idea of having this smaller community is that the crew can communicate directly with users and be responsive to what they want. The community clearly wants endurance run, so why are they becoming more annoyed with a notion that will make site users happier? If they just said "We know, and maybe, but we need to wait for the right game to come along, and that could take a while." I think most of the community would be satisfied (sure, they'd constantly be talking about what game could be the next ER, but what's wrong with that?) but instead they have a "Never again!" attitude, even though they already doubled back on that same attitude once with Deadly Premonition. 
 
And I can understand that doing an ER is time-consuming and results in less other content on the site, but I think most people would gladly accept that trade-off. Maybe they just don't want so much hype because they feel they won't be able to live up to the expectations?

I was under the impression that people paid to support Giant Bomb and Whiskey Media. Some people think just because they paid, now have some sort of say on how they do things at GB. 
 
Doing a forced ER just because people demand for one will be the worst thing they could do.  ER was never a thing to begin with, just something that happened.  If it comes back it will be on their terms and on a game they feel is worthy of an ER. 
 
@Chadster said:

 
 I can understand that doing an ER is time-consuming and results in less other content on the site, but I think most people would gladly accept that trade-off. 

Whiskey Media is all about talking to the people that support the site and it's community. It's pretty stupid to go around telling people that they can't ask for new features or give their opinion on what THEY as the users of the site want out of the site.
 
Let people say what they like, the staff will either listen to them or ignore them. So much hate against the people who voiced their opinion in this thread.

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

I miss it too. P4 ER was awesome. I was afraid the DP one would suck, but having Brad and Ryan do a competing one was refreshing.

" Even if they or we want one, it's probably not legally possible anymore given the ramifications that could ensue from GiantBomb being as big as it is now. "

Yes, I miss it. But I completely understand why they won't do another one.

" @LunarAura said:

" Even if they or we want one, it's probably not legally possible anymore given the ramifications that could ensue from GiantBomb being as big as it is now. "

That's silly. Atlus and Ignition were well aware of the ER when they were going on, and GB was still a pretty goddamn large community back then.   ...If they put it behind a paywall, however, I can see companies taking issue with that. "

now would be a great time for a new ER. 
 
no big news coming untill E3.   (well its not like they write news stories anyway.....)
 
only a few big games over the next few months. just Portal 2 and LA noire. infamous 2 and DNF.       
 
  
the daily stream of content that comes with a endurance run would be nice right about now.   then again it might make sense to start one after e3 because E3 to august-september is normally the most boring time of the year for games.  

I agree with dropping event coverage and news posts in exchange for something else. The whole point in Giant Bomb was getting unique content not content I can get anywhere else.

yo endurance run bitches

" I agree with dropping event coverage and news posts in exchange for something else. The whole point in Giant Bomb was getting unique content not content I can get anywhere else. "

I still haven't watched the P4 ER. 
That means I have 80+ hours of ER fun left. 
Jealous? 

" I still haven't watched the P4 ER. That means I have 80+ hours of ER fun left. Jealous?  "

OK, what the heck is the endurance run?

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

" @mutha3 said:

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

 I agree, as a site for actual video game news and event coverage Giant Bomb is absolutely terrible. Stories and trailers regularly go up 2-3 days after they've already hit other sites. The reason people come to this site is for lets face it, the personality of the GB crew, nothing more. It's absolutely ridiculous that they want to be in business with their audience but then tell those people that support them "the more you ask the longer it'll be" good business is listening to the people who pay for your job to exist.  I'm not saying they need to do an Endurance Run of any game the community demands, they should try and find a game that fits. It's their whole attitude toward it and the community who asks for it that is gross. Combined with their shift from the many awesome random videos to a stale regiment of 3-5 QLs, TNT, Happy Hour (Yeah the site would really lack content if they had an ER! hah...) every week I'm not sure if I can justify my plan to subscribe anymore.. "

The only ones beating on a dead horse is the ones who are - FUCK YOU, IT WON'T HAPPEN, DROP IT! I'd love to see a new endurance run of some game but the truth is that quality wise, the Deadly Premonition Endurance Run, was lot weaker then the Persona 4 one. This I think is a lot because of the teams motivation towards the endurance run. If they want to do it, they'll have our support. 

" @mutha3 said:

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

 I agree, as a site for actual video game news and event coverage Giant Bomb is absolutely terrible. Stories and trailers regularly go up 2-3 days after they've already hit other sites. The reason people come to this site is for lets face it, the personality of the GB crew, nothing more. It's absolutely ridiculous that they want to be in business with their audience but then tell those people that support them "the more you ask the longer it'll be" good business is listening to the people who pay for your job to exist.  I'm not saying they need to do an Endurance Run of any game the community demands, they should try and find a game that fits. It's their whole attitude toward it and the community who asks for it that is gross. Combined with their shift from the many awesome random videos to a stale regiment of 3-5 QLs, TNT, Happy Hour (Yeah the site would really lack content if they had an ER! hah...) every week I'm not sure if I can justify my plan to subscribe anymore.. "

" OK, what the heck is the endurance run? "

" @Korrz said:

" @mutha3 said:

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

 I agree, as a site for actual video game news and event coverage Giant Bomb is absolutely terrible. Stories and trailers regularly go up 2-3 days after they've already hit other sites. The reason people come to this site is for lets face it, the personality of the GB crew, nothing more. It's absolutely ridiculous that they want to be in business with their audience but then tell those people that support them "the more you ask the longer it'll be" good business is listening to the people who pay for your job to exist.  I'm not saying they need to do an Endurance Run of any game the community demands, they should try and find a game that fits. It's their whole attitude toward it and the community who asks for it that is gross. Combined with their shift from the many awesome random videos to a stale regiment of 3-5 QLs, TNT, Happy Hour (Yeah the site would really lack content if they had an ER! hah...) every week I'm not sure if I can justify my plan to subscribe anymore.. "

This is more of an argument for them replacing Brad Nicholson than for a new Endurance Run.  Also, if you don't like what they do, you don't have to subscribe, that's the nature of capitalism.  They do not "owe" you an Endurance Run just because you want it. "

"
This is more of an argument for them replacing Brad Nicholson than for a new Endurance Run.  Also, if you don't like what they do, you don't have to subscribe, that's the nature of capitalism.  They do not "owe" you an Endurance Run just because you want it. "

 
 The Endurance Run is something that nothing can stop, motherfucker.  

" It's better to beat a dead horse than a horse that's alive. Unless you're into that kind of stuff, of course.   I don't really miss the Endurance Run that much. They were great, sure but youtube is filled with them. To me "Endurance Run" is just a slow way of saying "Let's Play"  "

" @Korrz said:

" @mutha3 said:

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

 I agree, as a site for actual video game news and event coverage Giant Bomb is absolutely terrible. Stories and trailers regularly go up 2-3 days after they've already hit other sites. The reason people come to this site is for lets face it, the personality of the GB crew, nothing more. It's absolutely ridiculous that they want to be in business with their audience but then tell those people that support them "the more you ask the longer it'll be" good business is listening to the people who pay for your job to exist.  I'm not saying they need to do an Endurance Run of any game the community demands, they should try and find a game that fits. It's their whole attitude toward it and the community who asks for it that is gross. Combined with their shift from the many awesome random videos to a stale regiment of 3-5 QLs, TNT, Happy Hour (Yeah the site would really lack content if they had an ER! hah...) every week I'm not sure if I can justify my plan to subscribe anymore.. "

This is more of an argument for them replacing Brad Nicholson than for a new Endurance Run.  Also, if you don't like what they do, you don't have to subscribe, that's the nature of capitalism.  They do not "owe" you an Endurance Run just because you want it. "

" @Wrighteous86 said:

" @Korrz said:

" @mutha3 said:

" @LiquidSwords said:

   Yeah, sorry no one would accept that.   Let's not have Giant Bomb become some sort of gimmick website. "

Depends on what the trade-off is. If it means less quick-looks, then yeah, a decrease of those would be  noticed by the community. However, looking at their past ER's, we still got plenty of Quick looks during those periods.  If it means less reviews or less coverage of events like E3, frankly, I don't think anyone would really give a shit. "

 I agree, as a site for actual video game news and event coverage Giant Bomb is absolutely terrible. Stories and trailers regularly go up 2-3 days after they've already hit other sites. The reason people come to this site is for lets face it, the personality of the GB crew, nothing more. It's absolutely ridiculous that they want to be in business with their audience but then tell those people that support them "the more you ask the longer it'll be" good business is listening to the people who pay for your job to exist.  I'm not saying they need to do an Endurance Run of any game the community demands, they should try and find a game that fits. It's their whole attitude toward it and the community who asks for it that is gross. Combined with their shift from the many awesome random videos to a stale regiment of 3-5 QLs, TNT, Happy Hour (Yeah the site would really lack content if they had an ER! hah...) every week I'm not sure if I can justify my plan to subscribe anymore.. "

This is more of an argument for them replacing Brad Nicholson than for a new Endurance Run.  Also, if you don't like what they do, you don't have to subscribe, that's the nature of capitalism.  They do not "owe" you an Endurance Run just because you want it. "

I was simply making a point.  Giant Bomb is amazing for it's video content and the personality of its crew, not their sub-par news or event coverage. They always talk about how time consuming the Endurance Run is and that other things would suffer for it. Which just seems funny to me because Video Content has slowed down regardless, but they somehow feel a daily dose of content would hurt the site? I haven't had the spare cash to subscribe yet (in school, no job) so they really don't owe me a single thing, I still love this website. The lack of a new Endurance Run is understandable, as I said earlier it's more their stance/attitude about even a mention of it that seems ridiculous to me. Especially if they want more people to support them. "

An Endurance Run is a very extensive, time-consuming and tiring process.  And with the nature of an Endurance Run, you have to have a game that fits a certain mold and the crew really wants to play it.  If an ER doesn't meet either of those qualifications, it is better just not to do one at all, because you would be wasting the audience and, more importantly, the crew's time and effort that they could have been using towards something else that would have been certainly better.
 
The crew isn't not doing an Endurance Run because they don't care about the community.  They aren't doing one because they do care about the community and the product they serve.  Doing an ER just for the hell of it doesn't help make Giant Bomb better at all.  In fact, it could only hinder it's ability to be better.

" An Endurance Run is a very extensive, time-consuming and tiring process.  And with the nature of an Endurance Run, you have to have a game that fits a certain mold and the crew really wants to play it.  If an ER doesn't meet either of those qualifications, it is better just not to do one at all, because you would be wasting the audience and, more importantly, the crew's time and effort that they could have been using towards something else that would have been certainly better.
 
The crew isn't not doing an Endurance Run because they don't care about the community.  They aren't doing one because they do care about the community and the product they serve.  Doing an ER just for the hell of it doesn't help make Giant Bomb better at all.  In fact, it could only hinder it's ability to be better. "

Endurance Run thread has 8 pages.
 

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED.

" @CitizenKane said:
I believe this thread has already come to a similar conclusion already.   The problem with this version is the implication that an endurance run would take away more interesting features. What features are those exactly? Over the past couple months video content has slowed to a trickle and the content we have is, frankly, quite dull. The last memorably funny quick look, imho, was for the Killzone 3 demo and the bombcast is starting to sound more and more like any other video game news podcast. If something like an ER or TANG or some new video feature were to start up, I would not care at all if it meant less time for any of the content we've recently been provided.  This site is starting to grow a bit too stagnant for my liking... "