" @Hailinel: sure, ive done it before. hahaha "I'm honestly surprised your face hasn't been rearranged by now.
Need A Game I Can Grief Tonight & This Weekend, Anyone Wanna Help
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" And it seems you still behave like you're in high school. "It's fine, it's just life and being a guy. I mean, he's cool now and even told us he was sorry for making us do it. He took greifing well, much like how PC gamers in Team Fortess 2 take griefing. It's mostly been the Halo Generation or the kids who tend to get really upset. Dare I say, Chocolate Milk kid on Xbox Live?
" @Hailinel said:But no one is making you do anything in any game right now. You're just out looking to cause trouble. And if you think that it's part of being a guy, how old are you, exactly? Nineteen? Twenty? You certainly don't sound like your that far out of high school." And it seems you still behave like you're in high school. "It's fine, it's just life and being a guy. I mean, he's cool now and even told us he was sorry for making us do it. He took greifing well, much like how PC gamers in Team Fortess 2 take griefing. It's mostly been the Halo Generation or the kids who tend to get really upset. Dare I say, Chocolate Milk kid on Xbox Live? "
" @mano521 said:There's a difference. Griefing can be done with absolutely no risk of physical harm. Meanwhile bullying, kid can retaliate. Plus people get PO'd online faster." @Hailinel: there is a clear difference between people who grief over a video game and bullies. if you cant see that difference then i am sorry "No, there's no difference. When you grief, you're just bullying people in an online setting, and it still makes you an asshole. "
It's different. And griefing is fun once in a while.
" But no one is making you do anything in any game right now. You're just out looking to cause trouble. And if you think that it's part of being a guy, how old are you, exactly? Nineteen? Twenty? You certainly don't sound like your that far out of high school. "Early twenties. Graduated University, work, and started going to school for business law. People still play pranks at our classes too. :)
" @Hailinel said:No, bullied kids can't always retaliate, whether it's due to lack of size, being outnumbered, fear of just being bullied more if the retaliation doesn't work, any number of things." @mano521 said:There's a difference. Griefing can be done with absolutely no risk of physical harm. Meanwhile bullying, kid can retaliate. Plus people get PO'd online faster. It's different. And griefing is fun once in a while. "" @Hailinel: there is a clear difference between people who grief over a video game and bullies. if you cant see that difference then i am sorry "No, there's no difference. When you grief, you're just bullying people in an online setting, and it still makes you an asshole. "
" @Hailinel said:Man, if you ever have children, I'll feel sorry for them." But no one is making you do anything in any game right now. You're just out looking to cause trouble. And if you think that it's part of being a guy, how old are you, exactly? Nineteen? Twenty? You certainly don't sound like your that far out of high school. "Early twenties. Graduated University, work, and started going to school for business law. People still play pranks at our classes too. :) "
@Hailinel:
bullies bully because they like the sense of power, if someone retaliated, chances are the bullying will stop. ive seen it happen.
griefing is different. the griefer wants retaliation, because it can only be verbal. and the verbal retaliation is usually verry funny haha
A. got bullied a ton as a kid and didnt stick up for yourself. so now if anything remotely relates to bullying you attack the idea.
B. you take your games too seriously and get ripshit each time someone teamkills you.
also, your last post technically agreed with me, though the reason doesnt make sense. you should read it again
Back in highschool I once KOed a guy I caught bullying someone half his size. Not much chance the kid could have fought back and ended it himself... the bully didn't stop picking on smaller kids, he just made sure no one was around when he did it. Turns out, bullies are sociopaths...
@Hailinel: bullies bully because they like the sense of power, if someone retaliated, chances are the bullying will stop. ive seen it happen.
" @Hailinel: sigh you should really read your posts and try thinking logically about things instead of just getting worked up because you either A. got bullied a ton as a kid and didnt stick up for yourself. so now if anything remotely relates to bullying you attack the idea. B. you take your games too seriously and get ripshit each time someone teamkills you. also, your last post technically agreed with me, though the reason doesnt make sense. you should read it again "Oh, you are paying attention. Fancy that.
And yes, I was bullied as a kid. A lot. I was that kid at school that seemingly everyone picked on. It didn't matter. Upperclassmen, underclassmen, girls. I was pretty much the punching bag, and no, I couldn't retaliate. Certainly not very well, for reasons that are unfortunately too complex to explain here, and if I were to anyway, you and your "lolz griefin lolz" mindset would just assume I was leaning on excuses. What it comes down to is that when I was a senior, I was given the senior award "Most Likely to Be Envied By Everyone in 20 Years" because the entire freaking class took pity on me for all the shit that they had put me through since early elementary school. Not that I don't appreciate sentiment, but why should I have had to to put up with any of that shit in the first place? Why should anyone have to put up with that shit online?
Make all the excuses you want. At the end of the day, you're still an asshole and a bully.
" At the end of the day, you're still an asshole and a bully. "You can't be a bully when you're greifing people screaming "faggot" every second online on XBL or PSN (mostly XBL). I take pride in making the kids who use ridiculous langauge leave games, I even get "thanks and bravo" from other gamers cause the idiots leave. I love hearing a guy constantly scream "fucking sand nigger i hope you die you fucking faggot and your fucking ass is gonna be filled", and yes...I am arab and despite how bad you might of had it, I doubt it was anything what I had to go through after 9/11. :)
" @Hailinel said:You use that emoticon as though you're happy you supposedly had it worse." At the end of the day, you're still an asshole and a bully. "You can't be a bully when you're greifing people screaming "faggot" every second online on XBL or PSN (mostly XBL). I take pride in making the kids who use ridiculous langauge leave games, I even get "thanks and bravo" from other gamers cause the idiots leave. I love hearing a guy constantly scream "fucking sand nigger i hope you die you fucking faggot and your fucking ass is gonna be filled", and yes...I am arab and despite how bad you might of had it, I doubt it was anything what I had to go through after 9/11. :) "
its the bully part. bullies want you to submit, they want to just pick on you and for you to just take it. im sorry you were bullied a lot, and you probably didnt deserve it.
griefing on the other hand is a totally different thing. i dont know about some people. but i only go after the people who are just douchebags online or little annoying kids. i dont support being a dick to people in person, because that shows you cant respect people even if they are right in front of you. but people make fun of others behind their backs all the time. teamkilling online is not as personal as say, beating some kid up.
call me an asshole all you want. everybody is an asshole on videogames. i can safetly say that i keep my regular life separate from how i act on videogames. so if you wanna call me a dick while i play games fine.
but it is illogical to say i am a bully
" @natetodamax: you are paying money to be entertained and so is the griefer. "At the expense of everyone else's fun, thus making him or her an asshole
if you wanna be a cunt about it just because you disagree then fuck off. i dont need to hear some kid who takes gaming too seriously bitch at me for doing something i find funny
" @Fbomb: well what i meant was the bullying would stop for that person. once they feel like they are losing control of the situation, they move on its good that you KO'd the guy "
Probably wasn't a good thing that I did that to him. He didn't fit in, got bad grades, and generally took a lot of verbal abuse. I was a sports athlete on the honor roll, so I'm sure it only made him more pissed off at life. I mean, not that my life was perfect, far from it (didn't want to hang out with my teammates much at school because I had other interests, so for a while I hung out with the guys who spent lunch hours in the library, but none of them had much interest in sports, and really never found anyone I really clicked with. From the outside, I'm sure it looked like I had quite a few friends and a lot going for me, but I identified with everyone who didn't fit in, because that's how I felt all through highschool. I didn't experience bullying physically, but got it all the time mentally, from teammate "friends" who would make fun of my academic accolades, from the guys in the library who would tell me I should go hang out with the other steroid meat heads. Probably the only guys who were genuinely pleasant to talk with were the guys I finally stuck up for when I KOed the bully. To this day I still dispise bullies, because the people they go after are typically the sort of people that are too nice to try and fight back.) Fuck bullies and fuck people that act like bullies online because there's no reprocussions for being a dick. You're still interacting with people, however virtual it is. It's not physically the same, but it still wrecks a good time for everyone else. But hey, if you're a dick, you're a dick... and probably are wrestling with some latent sociopathic thoughts, so whatever. I'll just quit and join another game if you're team killing, and mute you if you're annoying.
@natetodamax: not really, i normally go after the 20-30 year old douchebags who blame their deaths on teammates, brag about every kill, and just in general make idiots out of themselves
and i just quietly teamkill him and let him rage. soo no, griefers are neither blustering, quarrelsome, nor overbearing. we do not intimidate weaker people. soooo im still pretty sure bullying and griefing is completely different
I mean, after all... we both paid for your meals at the restaurant! We're just enjoying them differently!
Blustering = To be loud or noisy@natetodamax: not really, i normally go after the 20-30 year old douchebags who blame their deaths on teammates, brag about every kill, and just in general make idiots out of themselves and i just quietly teamkill him and let him rage. soo no, griefers are neither blustering, quarrelsome, nor overbearing. we do not intimidate weaker people. soooo im still pretty sure bullying and griefing is completely different "
Quarrelsome = Inclined to cause an altercation
Overbearing = Domineering, dictatorial, haughtily, or rudely arrogant
Griefers.
God damnit blind people are assholes." It's too bad you feel like you can treat people badly just because you can't see them. Good thing you're not blind. "
And yeah, griefers are fucking douche bags. If some kid is crying on mic you mute him, if some guy is acting like a tough douche bag you vote-kick or ignore him (Or get a better score than him). Killing them and abusing them for laughs makes you no better than they are.
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