Diddy and Dirty Money's Last Train to Paris

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#1  Edited By normalpants

Did anyone expect the dude we used to call Puff Daddy would release one of the best hip hop albums of 2010? I think it stands toe to toe with Kanye's latest and is probably even more fun to listen to on a purely musical level.  This album has a lot in common with a lot of electronic dance music, specifically of the trance and house music varieties.  That in itself isn't notable, except that the parts he captures most elegantly are the haunting synthesizers, soaring memorable vocals, and kaleidoscope drum machine tangents that give you shivers down your spine.   There isn't a single bad song on this album, or even 30 seconds of wasted space that doesn't at least tickle your eardrums with something interesting.  Hip hop, electronic, and dance music fans NEED to have this album in their collection, especially if you're as much of a sucker for synthesizers as I am-- this album is a love letter to people that love all of the wonderful things synths can do-- from New Order, to Toto, to Oakenfold and even Justice.  Ignore the fact that it's made by Diddy, which is pretty easy to do since the album speaks for itself. 

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@Blair: i haven't seen any marketing for the album-- what sorts of things are they trying? I picked up the album on a whim because I had a gift card to burn and was in the mood for hip hop thanks in no small part to Kanye's latest fantastic album.  I must admit I'm shocked to see such a polar opposite reaction, but I can see how this sort of thing isn't for everyone.  I don't think Kanye or Diddy even get close to approaching something that could be taken seriously as high concept artistic statements, which is why I'm not surprised to see you haven't found anything profound in this album.  There isn't any social relevance or greater meaning in either of the albums, but it's enough for me that they're both a sheer joy to listen to at every turn, all while trying new things musically.  They both hit the mark over and over again on a pure guttural caveman level.  You could certainly say that both aspire to pull off something higher,  but the important detail is that they both never sacrifice the music when they're trying to hit that mark,  which is why it's easy for me to like the last track on Kanye's album.   
 
I just really, really, really like synthesizers.  A lot.  
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I listened to a bunch of it in preview on iTunes just because of your enthusiasm. [Random note: Now the preview is 90 instead of 30 seconds? That's awesome!] I can see that they're trying to make something interesting hear, and I don't have the same instantaneous "ew" response I have had to everything Sean Combs has done in the past 5 years, but it's just not what I want out of a record. This stylish, overly produced, shiny hip-hop is not my scene. I don't think Kanye's record is revelational or has any great social meaning, just as you said, but it does have a hypocritical mixture of a raw bravado and a beautiful crescendo that really grabbed me. Diddy's just isn't my style. Glad you love it though. 

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#5  Edited By normalpants
@Kierkegaard: I suspect that listening to the full versions of the songs would reveal the crescendos you're looking for.  I'm really impressed by the crafted twists and turns on all of the songs and how organic it all feels despite everything having such deep roots in an electronic looped heritage.  I realize I'm treading on dangerous hyperbolic ground here, so I am respectfully going to back down on my sermonizing.  Although I have to say how grateful I am for being able to have a civil discussion of music on the internet.  I love the Giant Bomb community.  
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#6  Edited By Kierkegaard
@normalpants: That does sound good. I'll have to take you're word for it, though, as I'm not willing to experiment with my money on this one. The music videos for the album are really glitzy and shitty, so that's not doing the apparently quality tracks you like any favors. It's hard to describe, but Kanye is at least aspiring to something like soul mixed with hard core rap, while Diddy is aspiring to dance/R&B mixed with, well, Diddy rapping poorly. I guess the biggest thing for me is that Kanye is a brilliant producer and creative rapper while Diddy isn't. Or, at least, he hasn't ever been. His tracks have always been too poppy for me, ever since Biggie died and he had to build Bad Boy on the idea of high profile hip-hop instead of the reality of quality rap. 
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Listened to it, only kept I Hate That You Love Me, Ass On The Floor, Yesterday, Angels, and Hello Good Morning; the rest I threw out. Though, I've listened to those few songs a lot more than I was expecting to over the past few days. I really wish this dude's flow would improve though.

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To me, what makes Kanye's album fascinating, as mentioned before, is the depth of the contradictions he pose throughout the album. I didn't think it was the best rap album of the year (I'm confining it to rap because making cross-genre comparisons is fucking hard man): for that I'd look more towards Das Racist's Sit Down, Man, or , if one finds their hipster-esque personas grating (which I can understand, although I'd encourage people to try to at least give them a chance - you might like what you find), Big Boi's Sir Lucious Left Foot
 
To me, My Dark Twisted Fantasy was simply the most intriguing album of the year, because it exposed someone so conflicted, so internally contradictory, that one can't help but stare in confusion and awe. That's also why I don't find Last Train to Paris nearly as endearing (see, I was totally getting there): Diddy clearly wanted to put more of himself into this album than he has previously, and he succeeds in that; however, what he presents us with simply doesn't seem as interesting, to put it bluntly, because he doesn't seem, as Kanye does, to be lost; Diddy merely seems to be someone who's struggling to express to everyone else who he is; Kanye, on the other hand, seems to be struggling to express to himself who he is, and that is why it's infinitely more intriguing when Kanye bears his soul to us, than it is when Diddy does. 
 
Of course, I know that sounds like "pretentious babble", so, if you prefer it, let me put it this way: Kanye seems more confused than Diddy, and as such, his album is more interesting to me than Diddy's is. Also, I think Sit Down, Man is pretty damn good, so long as you can ignore your initial "oh god more hipster bullshit" reaction.
 
There, now I'm going to go make myself some espresso.