I know alot of people here don't like rap. But this guy just doesn't get enough respect compared to lil wayne and other people that aren't even close to as good.
These two show that he has amazing talent. Especially since the first is just him freestyling.
Though i might sound like im making a ridiculous claim in the title don't take it seriously i just said it to show my respect for him.
" Too bad he's left all this behind him. His last album was so disappointing. This is the kind of stuff I love though. "
Edit: Yeah dude, his last album was pretty "meh". I only liked two tracks off of it. I was afraid he had fallen off, but these two songs prove he has not.
He's extremely talented, and definitely one of my favorite rappers of all time. I was astounded when I listened to Despicable on the aftermathmusic.com site when I saw it was a freestyle, that was pretty amazing.
Yeah i agree at least he can take the time to come with lyrics with meaning and relevance, other than the standard of rap Money, Drugs, Women violence.
" That freestyle was pretty beastly - angrier, more energy closer to his older stuff. After the Mathers LP he kinda lost it - too many slow songs, too much self production, probably too many drugs. If he can keep up this kinda stuff I could go back to listening too him (and I don't mean to sound like a dick but let's just skip the songs about your kid ok? No one wants to hear it). Not Afraid - this is exactly the kind of the song that's the problem - this dude hasn't even been doing anything lately and he's doing a fucking persecution song - I don't wanna hear him sing or act like he's on some higher level, I liked his music cause he'd rap about crazy shit and it was funny. He took his personal stories and added a lot of humorous and over the top stuff to it - I just don't care to hear him all serious and sullen. "
I gotta disagree, I really like those songs. I really like both types you mentioned.
" That freestyle was pretty beastly - angrier, more energy closer to his older stuff. After the Mathers LP he kinda lost it - too many slow songs, too much self production, probably too many drugs. If he can keep up this kinda stuff I could go back to listening too him (and I don't mean to sound like a dick but let's just skip the songs about your kid ok? No one wants to hear it). Not Afraid - this is exactly the kind of the song that's the problem - this dude hasn't even been doing anything lately and he's doing a fucking persecution song - I don't wanna hear him sing or act like he's on some higher level, I liked his music cause he'd rap about crazy shit and it was funny. He took his personal stories and added a lot of humorous and over the top stuff to it - I just don't care to hear him all serious and sullen. "
I think his best songs are when he's serious rather than when he's satiracally funny. I mean he's no philosipher or anything but he definitely does a good job at getting his views acroos ehen it comes to serious issues.
i wouldn't say the best rapper alive, but he's definitely sick. i actually went back and picked up the slim shady lp not too long ago and man what an awesome album.
" Too bad he's left all this behind him. His last album was so disappointing. This is the kind of stuff I love though. "
Edit: Yeah dude, his last album was pretty "meh". I only liked two tracks off of it.
Yea his last cd wasn't that great but i loved Beautiful. And it's funny cuz he admits himself that Relapse was pretty "meh" and he says he's not going back to that in-Not Afraid.
@Redsox44: Yep, it's nice to see a "celebrity" able to see fault in their own work.
@SteamPunkJin said:
" @xobballox said: I think that there are a few decent ones - didn't meant to outright declare all of them terrible. Whatever the last CD I got of his, I think Encore? It was just too much, and that shitty faux-protest song about voting, it felt forced. I think he just reach that point where everyone around him just said 'Yea yea, that'll be cool' and no one told him no. Just looked on Wiki and it seems like I missed Relapse and Recovery - so really I've got no idea what his more recent stuff sounds like. Encore was the one that lost me so if they're like that I doubt I'd be interested. "
Relapse wasn't very good other than Deja Vu and Beautiful if you ask me, and Recovery isn't out yet, Not Afraid is a teaser song (I guess you could call it that) that will be on Recovery as far as I know. Despicable might be on there too (it definitely should be, it's great.)
He's probably one of the best mainstream rappers, but I can't really comment much on rapping or music in general. I like what I like, I don't care if its shit or not.
From 1:25 to the end of Despicable is great. It's okay if he's not the best rapper alive but he destroys the shit out of other rappers that have even more popularity than him. On the track Forever he outshines Drake, Lil Wayne. and Kanye West. Also on Airplanes part 2 wit B.o.B he adds a layer to that song that makes it better. And right here wit Despicable he takes Drakes beat and shows him up.
He's the best mainstream rapper, but I still contend that the best rapper(s) currently producing music are Aesop Rock or JMT (though they're on the decline, not a huge AOTP fan). It's all an opinion, but KIH/SIH was great, as was None Shall Pass.
Eminem's new stuff is only good rap relative to what's around him. He fell off SO MUCH since the Marshall Mathers LP (Eminem Show was the beginning of this) that whatever he is now is no longer relevant; just as the title, "Best Rapper Alive," is meaningless.
For all you bitches saying shit about rap, me and Jeff got one thing to say.
EAT A DICK.
Anyway, Eminem is pretty damn sick and today, I don't know who is better with lyrics than he is. Lil Wayne and pieces of shit like him and Jay Z cant hold a candle to Eminem. Tupac is the other that comes to mind with just how good they were with words.
Seriously, Eminem hasn't been good since Marshall Mathers LP. This is not only my opinion, but it's also a factual statement in and of its own right.
And with that said, I'm just going to leave this here:
...and maybe I should also point out how well his music mixes with other styles, like this:
...and I don't think I need to link a video of The Grey Album's material.
As it stands, Jay-Z has transcended what rap and hip-hop has been since it was born: a battle for who the best M.C. is. Frankly, no one has still touched Jay-Z's quality.
Wagwan, Eminem's best lyrical work is Infinite, so it's been a long time, and he has never surpassed that song. Although man, when he was dope, he was fucking dope.
Eminem is definitely one of the best rappers of this age and any. I still enjoy a little Jay-Z and Wale, even Lil Wayne on occasion, or T.I.
But Eminem's lyrics have power and meaning, they tell a story that no one else has been able to for quite some time, and he's going in the books as one of the greatest of all time.
Talking about the best rapper alive is usually kinda messy since it's all subjective. Anyway, Eminem can definitely still run circles lyrically around most of the mainstream rappers out now, though Encore and Relapse aren't the same quality as earlier stuff. Even then, those two CDs still have some decent songs in them.
As far as other rappers, 2Pac is by and far my favorite, and Ice Cube still knows how to spit some lyrics.
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