Gunman Shoots Arizona Congresswoman.

I do NOT support this as 100% legit but SOME people on the internet are saying the shooter's name is Jared Loughner and this is his youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 
His myspace is also mentioned there but it doesn't exist anymore.
 
 

 

 

I kept seeing Roger Ebert and others tweet about the Palin connection. I don't like Palin, but it's too early to point fingers, given what little has been revealed about the criminal. Just like how Jack Thompson blames video games whenever a teen commits a crime. 

" @Slaker117 said:

" @Dany said:

" @EvilTwin said:

" @A_Cute_Squirtle said:

" That flier is fucking ridiculous. I hope Palin pays for this.  "

Posting that flier is just inflammatory bullshit.  OP should take it down.  It has nothing to do with this and neither does Sarah Palin. "

Completely agree, its just inflaming the narrow minds of delusionalist. "

I don't want to use this for cheap political shots, but the flier does seem relevant to me. I'm not going to pretend Palin is endorsing or even suggesting actual murder, but it certainly looks like a factor. "

Where does self accountability come into play when it comes to clearly crazy people going on killing sprees? Are we pretending this person doesn't still eventually snap if this flier is never made? Fliers don't turn regular people into serial killers. The back of a cereal box could have set him off for all we know. "

" @Meowshi said:

" @PrimeSynergy said:

" @Gap said:

" Only in America. "

Sadly. "

Oh bull.  This is a paradise compared to some parts of the world.  Love to see you guys live in an African warzone and then talk about how America is so bad. "

This isn't a dick waving contest to see which country has the most dangerous living conditions. Besides you can't compare the U.S. to a region that has, for the most part, always been unstable. Of course it seems like a paradise in that light. "

" @Meowshi: You're the biggest fucking idiot in the world if you think Palin had anything to do with this. "

" @EvilTwin said:

" @MrKlorox:  Not really.  There will always be violence, but a crazy person with a knife is significantly less scary than a crazy person with a gun, and a crazy person with a gun is significantly less scary than a crazy person with a nuke, etc. This guy wounded 12 people right?  How many do you think he could have gotten with a knife?  Maybe not even one. "

Was it an attempted mass slaughter? Or was it a assassination attempt that 'ended' with time and ammo to spare? We don't know yet. "

"  Via MSNBC:   

 "Jared Laughner, the man who shot Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), was described by eyewitnesses as a young white man who looked like a "fringe character."

Laughner shot Giffords and 12 others at a public event at a Safeway grocery store in Tucscon. He reportedly shot the congresswoman "point blank" in the head and may have come from inside the store. After shooting Giffords, he allegedly fired 20-30 rounds and hit "a number of people," including a child. He attempted to flee after running out of ammunition and was tackled by one of Giffords' staffers.

Eyewitnesses have described Laughner as "young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing."

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" @Video_Game_King:  The flier had nothing to do with shooting people that disagreed with Sarah Palin.  It was symbolic.  Plenty of other people agree with Sarah Palin who didn't shoot this Congresswoman.     If gamers are going to defend video games as not causing people to shoot other people, then isn't it hypocritical to turn around and say that a political campaign poster was the cause of this shooting? "

@EvilTwin

" There's your answer. "

" @Video_Game_King:  The flier had nothing to do with shooting people that disagreed with Sarah Palin.  It was symbolic.  Plenty of other people agree with Sarah Palin who didn't shoot this Congresswoman.     If gamers are going to defend video games as not causing people to shoot other people, then isn't it hypocritical to turn around and say that a political campaign poster was the cause of this shooting? "

" @Detrian: That is freaky, the favorited video is about terrorism. "

" @EvilTwin said:

" @Video_Game_King:  The flier had nothing to do with shooting people that disagreed with Sarah Palin.  It was symbolic.  Plenty of other people agree with Sarah Palin who didn't shoot this Congresswoman.     If gamers are going to defend video games as not causing people to shoot other people, then isn't it hypocritical to turn around and say that a political campaign poster was the cause of this shooting? "

Not the issue. Andrew Sullivan: "  Giffords was one of twenty members of Congress placed within metaphorical "gun-sights" in SarahPac's graphic. That is not the same thing as placing a gun-sight over someone's face or person. No one can possibly believe - or should - that Sarah Palin is anything but horrified by what has taken place. But it remains the kind of rhetorical excess which was warned about at the time, and which loners can use to dreadful purposes. It is compounded by the kind of language used by the Arizona Wildcat as well. Maybe "Palin Reloads; Aims For Giffords" is good copy as a headline. But next time, an editor should surely pause before enabling forces whose capacity for violence is real." "

" @ryanwho:  I'm not saying it did. In my first post I even state directly it was the shooters fault, not Palin's. But that doesn't mean the flier isn't relevant to his motivation. That's all I'm saying.  I'm not blaming Palin. I'm blaming the shooter. The flier is simply a point of interest that might suggest why he did it. "

The shooter is 22 which doesn't fit a profile of a Tea Party member. However, 22 does fit into a profile of a Progressive radical.

" @EvilTwin: 
 
Symbolic? It was kinda directly telling people "let's shoot these people." That's not much of a thing to hold against Sarah Palin fans in general (they're already pretty stupid for liking Sarah Palin :P), but it is relevant to the discussion. Games don't directly tell people to kill each other; hell, the games people cite sometimes punish you for killing people. The poster, however, was somewhat encouraging violence, although I will agree that it is indicative of something larger. "

Right by my grandparents place. Better make sure they didn't get shot..

9 Year old girl dead and the congress woman survives.
 
Let the adults kill each other over stupid shit but when an innocent child gets killed i get fucking mad. This guy should pay for what hes done.

" @ryanwho said:

" @Gap said:

" Only in America. "

Yeah politically motivated shootings only happen in America. That is a profound and true statement, great contribution. "

Was on about the fact that in America you can so freely gain access to firearms and shoot anyone you please, be they politicians or most of the time school children.   Sure the UK is shit but the gun laws here are fine: you can't really go on a killing spree with a knife like you can an assault rifle, it just wouldn't happen. "

The people blaming Palin for this are morons. They are the same ones blaming GTA for school violence.

That's what you get for riling up the people with your cowboy-rhetoric, Palin. There were warnings about this exact scenario months ago when Palin's list and her "Reload"-twitter-BS surfaced.
 
Yeah, I know it's not just Palin who contributed to this. It took a crazy mind and the whole staff of Fox News & co.

From the YouTube channel: " I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.  " 
 
It reads like a high schooler's list, but I think we can start erasing the Tea Party relation speculation.

" Thanks for helping prove my point about motivation. "

Anybody who puts Mein Kampf as one of their favorite books is somebody I don't want to associate with.

" @RecSpec: Don't think very many people are blaming Palin. "

" The shooter is 22 which doesn't fit a profile of a Tea Party member. However, 22 does fit into a profile of a Progressive radical  

" @Mr_Pips said:

" The shooter is 22 which doesn't fit a profile of a Tea Party member. However, 22 does fit into a profile of a Progressive radical  

 Yeah, I'm sure the Progressive radical attacked her because she supported Health Care Reform.  Progressives hate that so much! "

" @ryanwho said:

" @Gap said:

" Only in America. "

Yeah politically motivated shootings only happen in America. That is a profound and true statement, great contribution. "

Was on about the fact that in America you can so freely gain access to firearms and shoot anyone you please, be they politicians or most of the time school children.   Sure the UK is shit but the gun laws here are fine: you can't really go on a killing spree with a knife like you can an assault rifle, it just wouldn't happen. "

" @EvilTwin:   Actually, yea, the sign was encouraging violence. Hell, it specifically kept tally of the Congresspeople who were already harmed by similar attacks. That's not encouraging violence?  "

" @Hamz said:

" Perhaps it's about time the politicians rethink that "right to bear arms" bit in the constitution.  "

A random shooting= nanny state time. Clearly what works in Cuba, Japan, and the UK, 3 densely populated small islands, will work in the US. Great observation. Smart people itt. "

UGH now they're talking about how we should thank god shes alive.
 
HOW ABOUT THANK THE FUCKING DOCTORS WHO ARE KEEPING HER ALIVE. i need to turn this off as its just getting me enraged

" @Meowshi said:

" @Mr_Pips said:

" The shooter is 22 which doesn't fit a profile of a Tea Party member. However, 22 does fit into a profile of a Progressive radical  

 Yeah, I'm sure the Progressive radical attacked her because she supported Health Care Reform.  Progressives hate that so much! "

Progressive radicals DID oppose the health care bill.   http://www.openmarket.org/2009/12/29/progressives-against-health-care-bill-for-wrong-reasons/  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-samuels/the-progressive-case-agai_b_508473.html  http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7016302873?Progressives%20Warn%20Obama%20Against  http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30737.html "

" UGH now they're talking about how we should thank god shes alive.  HOW ABOUT THANK THE FUCKING DOCTORS WHO ARE KEEPING HER ALIVE. i need to turn this off as its just getting me enraged "

 Oh politics.
 
Even if he was motivated by Palin, dude is crazy and at the only one we can mark as at fault. Whether or not the flier had anything to do with it, Palin should probably stop referring to gun violence against her political adversaries.
 
There. Can we agree on that?

" UGH now they're talking about how we should thank god shes alive.  HOW ABOUT THANK THE FUCKING DOCTORS WHO ARE KEEPING HER ALIVE. i need to turn this off as its just getting me enraged "

For all we know this dude shot her because he was in love with her.  All this conjecture seems a bit baseless until some more information comes out.