Now most of you will just say yes right of bat but you have to hear me out (or read me out). See,my country ( Republic of Croatia) is only 18 years old (Sure,there was the war period,but i count the post-Yugoslavia as the age of my homeland),so everything is still subject to change,but my antipathy toward Croatia starts with Croatian War of Independence. I know i should be proud of my homeland to get independence,but honestly i am not. I mean,the whole war just a whole farce-at the time the JNA (Yugoslavian army) was the 3rd strongest army in the world (right after the US and the Soviets) and the Serbian (well,Yugoslavian) aggressors could just delete us of the map if they wanted,but didn't. Why? Well,while our men and the Ustaše (Read:Ustashe) (another reason of my antipathy towards my homeland,i'll get to them later) were fighting and dying here, Tuđman (croatian president and hardcore ustaša) and Miloševič (Serbian president and hardcore četnik [Read:Chetnik. Also,I'll get to them later]) were enjoying in Slovenia,talking about how they will split Bosnia
No,i can't base my antipathy on just one dude true,but even after the war was over in '95 some Serbs were still in Croatia. And here we get to the Ustašas. They were (and still are) and extremist fascist group that thought it would be just fine to murder and rape the left over Serbs. WHAT THE FUCK?! WHERE DO YOU GET OFF JUST BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF AN INNOCENT GUY/GIRL THAT DIDN'T EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE WAR (Anybody that participated on the side of the aggressors were exiled)?! True its illegal,but our police force mostly stays blind to it. After that,we help the Serbs terrorize Bosnians so we could have land that isn't rightfully ours!
OK,so that's the past,true,but things didn't get better in the 2000s either! We still have Ustašas,we beat the shit out of people for no reason...Why? THE WAR IS OVER FOLKS! And like the cherry on the top of the shit cake,we have one of the most corrupt governments in the world,the country is near bankruptcy and people are like geese in the fog-they just don't care!
Now that you know maybe too much,do you still say no?
Is it wrong i feel zero love for my homeland?
Now most of you will just say yes right of bat but you have to hear me out (or read me out). See,my country ( Republic of Croatia) is only 18 years old (Sure,there was the war period,but i count the post-Yugoslavia as the age of my homeland),so everything is still subject to change,but my antipathy toward Croatia starts with Croatian War of Independence. I know i should be proud of my homeland to get independence,but honestly i am not. I mean,the whole war just a whole farce-at the time the JNA (Yugoslavian army) was the 3rd strongest army in the world (right after the US and the Soviets) and the Serbian (well,Yugoslavian) aggressors could just delete us of the map if they wanted,but didn't. Why? Well,while our men and the Ustaše (Read:Ustashe) (another reason of my antipathy towards my homeland,i'll get to them later) were fighting and dying here, Tuđman (croatian president and hardcore ustaša) and Miloševič (Serbian president and hardcore četnik [Read:Chetnik. Also,I'll get to them later]) were enjoying in Slovenia,talking about how they will split Bosnia
No,i can't base my antipathy on just one dude true,but even after the war was over in '95 some Serbs were still in Croatia. And here we get to the Ustašas. They were (and still are) and extremist fascist group that thought it would be just fine to murder and rape the left over Serbs. WHAT THE FUCK?! WHERE DO YOU GET OFF JUST BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF AN INNOCENT GUY/GIRL THAT DIDN'T EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE WAR (Anybody that participated on the side of the aggressors were exiled)?! True its illegal,but our police force mostly stays blind to it. After that,we help the Serbs terrorize Bosnians so we could have land that isn't rightfully ours!
OK,so that's the past,true,but things didn't get better in the 2000s either! We still have Ustašas,we beat the shit out of people for no reason...Why? THE WAR IS OVER FOLKS! And like the cherry on the top of the shit cake,we have one of the most corrupt governments in the world,the country is near bankruptcy and people are like geese in the fog-they just don't care!
Now that you know maybe too much,do you still say no?
Thanks :D
Wait...
ALSO WHAT THE FUCK IS EVERYBODY DOING PROMOTING THEIR COUNTRY'S TOURISM?!
I don't care about my country either.
And then at some point we did some drawings that pissed a lot of people off.
They decided to boycot our milk and burn 1 or 10 of our 30 billion flags.. Wooop de fucking doo
Well,i guess the US had its fair share of corrupt governments when it was young. True,18 years isn't enough to grow out of the savage brutes we are,and things probably will change! THANKS RAYMAYNE :D
And someone took our jobs
Just shut the fuck up and go troll someone else. Fucking 9 year olds
@Kralle:
Sure,everyone says that but there isn't enough money. FUUUUUUUCK :(
Fucking idiot
80$ a game is a lot =D
" I don't care about my country either. And then at some point we did some drawings that pissed a lot of people off. They decided to boycot our milk and burn 1 or 10 of our 30 billion flags.. Wooop de fucking doo "
It actually cost you close to $5 Billion in trade during the boycott. And the boycott wasn't even that large. It also had the direct effect of forcing Netherlands to stop Anti-Muslim politicians because of fear of trade boycotts in the Muslim world. Netherlands has a much larger trade market with Muslims than Denmark. Other than that no, not much happened.
Anyone that helps destroy Denmark is awesome in my books.
" @ZeForgotten: Oh you wanna talk shitty prices? A fucking PS3 game costs 100 $! "Daaamn, that is dumb :D
Oh wait they keep doing that to themselves so I guess they're alright.
Yeah I can be a pathetic racist guy too :)
@Kralle: 2000$ a month I guess. But still taxes, bills, food, and other stuff like that is really expensive.
so a 60$ game is not worth whining about in my eyes
" @FourWude: And everyone who helps blow up the muslims are good in my book. Oh wait they keep doing that to themselves so I guess they're alright. Yeah I can be a pathetic racist guy too :) "
Don't worry, paybacks already a bitch for the western world. Look at your bankrupt nations, it's hilarious.
Terrorism on the grand scale of things isn't even that big. More people get shot in the US per year than die through terrorist acts all over the world. It's small scale.
It's going to be funny watching western civilization kill itself.
" @ZeForgotten said:Bankrupt? hahaha ignorance is bliss and apparantly also very funny." @FourWude: And everyone who helps blow up the muslims are good in my book. Oh wait they keep doing that to themselves so I guess they're alright. Yeah I can be a pathetic racist guy too :) "Don't worry, paybacks already a bitch for the western world. Look at your bankrupt nations, it's hilarious. "
But you just keep that dream alive little buddy :)
Dude,you're like the anti-version of this person I knew on a forum awhile back.He loved Croatia,wanted communism back and hated the US.
maybe,if I got you two together in the same room;you guys could have a fight to the death!
" @FourWude said:
Bankrupt? hahaha ignorance is bliss and apparantly also very funny. But you just keep that dream alive little buddy :) "" @ZeForgotten said:
Don't worry, paybacks already a bitch for the western world. Look at your bankrupt nations, it's hilarious. "" @FourWude: And everyone who helps blow up the muslims are good in my book. Oh wait they keep doing that to themselves so I guess they're alright. Yeah I can be a pathetic racist guy too :) "
OK, I'm living in my blissful non-bankrupt fantasy land... Most of Euope is already finished economically. The bad half is dragging the rest down with them. As for the US.... it's over.
The highest probability of bankruptcies happening anywhere in the world right now are with Ireland, Portugal, Greece, Iceland and Italy. They alone will destroy the EU. These nations owe trillions combined, once their debts can no longer be serviced watch as it pulls the rest of Europe into a debt spiral as nations lose money owed to them and trade decreases. And that's before we even get to the UK....
The wider socio-economic fallout of all this bankruptcy is gonna be hell.
@AnotherDuder: Apologies for the lack of discussion; I know jack about Eastern European politics. Maybe I'll spend this afternoon looking it up, though.
I will say this: I fluctuate between despising Scotland and loving it on a frequent basis, so I can understand where you are coming from, just for very different reasons.
" @mylifeforAiur said:And Yahtzee!" Come to Australia................we have nice beaches ^_^ "and nice females to populate our nice beaches :D "
" @ZeForgotten: I thought the life there is better? Also,thanks to everyone except for @FourWude: "Even if it is, you'll never try it. We've just instated a point system, which basicly only allows people from Harvard or Oxford to come here. The only problem is, even though you are highly skilled, we don't want you unless you speak danish.
I love my family but I truly hate my homeland of Great Britian.
Our government actually pays people who sit on their asses doing nothing all day more than others who do honest work.
I'm moving to Hong Kong soon...
Need I say more than this?
To answer your question though honestly I wouldn't know if its really wrong to have zero love for your homeland since I too am also trying hard to be proud of my homeland despite our already broken reputation with my country's neighbors.
From Ireland which is currently fucked beyond belief due to a political system that's been broken since the foundation of the state (was basically set up to ensure the good old boys were always taken care of at the expense of the ordinary citizen) but I do have a fair degree of affection for the place. Pity most people my age are already leaving and I'm probably not far behind them.
If your country is pretty fucked up in many ways, then yes its hard to rally behind a meaningful love for your country if you find something deeply wrong with it. Its all perspective and subjective. I may love my country (Canada) but someone else might not, based off of how they feel, what they think, their background and what their personality is like.
" Now most of you will just say yes right of bat but you have to hear me out (or read me out). See,my country ( Republic of Croatia) is only 18 years old (Sure,there was the war period,but i count the post-Yugoslavia as the age of my homeland),so everything is still subject to change,but my antipathy toward Croatia starts with Croatian War of Independence. I know i should be proud of my homeland to get independence,but honestly i am not. I mean,the whole war just a whole farce-at the time the JNA (Yugoslavian army) was the 3rd strongest army in the world (right after the US and the Soviets) and the Serbian (well,Yugoslavian) aggressors could just delete us of the map if they wanted,but didn't. Why? Well,while our men and the Ustaše (Read:Ustashe) (another reason of my antipathy towards my homeland,i'll get to them later) were fighting and dying here, Tuđman (croatian president and hardcore ustaša) and Miloševič (Serbian president and hardcore četnik [Read:Chetnik. Also,I'll get to them later]) were enjoying in Slovenia,talking about how they will split Bosnia No,i can't base my antipathy on just one dude true,but even after the war was over in '95 some Serbs were still in Croatia. And here we get to the Ustašas. They were (and still are) and extremist fascist group that thought it would be just fine to murder and rape the left over Serbs. WHAT THE FUCK?! WHERE DO YOU GET OFF JUST BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF AN INNOCENT GUY/GIRL THAT DIDN'T EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE WAR (Anybody that participated on the side of the aggressors were exiled)?! True its illegal,but our police force mostly stays blind to it. After that,we help the Serbs terrorize Bosnians so we could have land that isn't rightfully ours! OK,so that's the past,true,but things didn't get better in the 2000s either! We still have Ustašas,we beat the shit out of people for no reason...Why? THE WAR IS OVER FOLKS! And like the cherry on the top of the shit cake,we have one of the most corrupt governments in the world,the country is near bankruptcy and people are like geese in the fog-they just don't care! Now that you know maybe too much,do you still say no? "I'm a bosnian and i feel no hate towards Croatia because they realised at the end you cannot take over bosnia and joined us against the murdering serbs :)
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