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#1  Edited By Red12b

 

 
 

So I would like to know what movies, in your opinion, are better than it's source material. 
Could be book's, comics, fables, legends whatever, 
Because it is easy to think of movies that are worse, I can name three off the top of my head,(Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt series I really wanted them to try an actual attempt with this character but no, They casted Mathew Mc Conaughey)  But it is harder to think of ones that are better. 
 
Extra kudos if the movie in question is obscure, (Not many people have heard of it) 
So I’ll start with an obvious one, 
Fight club. 
In my opinion, a masterpiece of filmmaking, totally underrated at time of release, went on to become a modern classic. 
Now I am a fan of Chuck Palahniuk I really like all of his work, but I prefer the film to the book,  
 
Please don't kill me, It's only my opinion. 


 
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#2  Edited By natetodamax

Excuse my ignorance, but could somebody define source material for me? I've seen it used lots of times but I have no clue what that it.

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#3  Edited By beargirl1
@natetodamax said:

" Excuse my ignorance, but could somebody define source material for me? I've seen it used lots of times but I have no clue what that it. "

um..here's an example  
 
Resident Evil: for the movie, the source material are the characters, the plot, the setting, all that stuff from THE GAME.  
the actual resident evil movie only used source material like the city that most REs are set in, the virus outbreak from the game, and some of the characters.  
 
so it's..you know, things from the source. 
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#4  Edited By GunstarRed

this is easy... the lord of the rings films are much better than the book they are based upon.... if i wanted a two page description of the way some fucking grass is blowing in the wind...Oh...no....actually I don't
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#5  Edited By Chipset_Seven

2001: A Space Odyssey - The film is much better than the book.  Clarke's best book, "Rendezvous With Rama", was suppose to be made into a movie this year starring Morgan Freeman.  The project was scrapped.  As far as 2001 goes, it's just my opinion, and as far as Rendezvous goes, just my opinion as well.

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#6  Edited By natetodamax
@AjayRaz: Thanks
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#7  Edited By turbomonkey138

Lord of the rings

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#8  Edited By cinemandrew
@AjayRaz said:
" @natetodamax said:
" Excuse my ignorance, but could somebody define source material for me? I've seen it used lots of times but I have no clue what that it. "
um..here's an example   Resident Evil: for the movie, the source material are the characters, the plot, the setting, all that stuff from THE GAME.  the actual resident evil movie only used source material like the city that most REs are set in, the virus outbreak from the game, and some of the characters.  "
The game would actually be the source material The characters, setting, etc, are all part of the game, so you're not really wrong. I'm just being extra anal right now.
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#9  Edited By kmdrkul

Moves I feel are better than the books they were based off of:

  • A Clockwork Orange
  • The Last King of Scotland
  • Mystic River
Conversely movies that I think weren't as good as the novel
  • No Country for Old Men
  • Casino Royale
  • Undoubtedly the upcoming adaptation of The Road, as much as it pains me to say
  • Was just reminded of The Lord of the Rings
  • Also reminded of the awfully generic Max Payne adaptation
 
These are really the only cases I can think of where I have actually both watched the movie and read the book; most of the time I'll check out the book after watching the movie, except for No Country and Casino Royale where I read the novel first.  I wouldn't doubt that it definitely matters whether or not you watched the film first or vice versa, though.
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#10  Edited By MarkWahlberg

Apparently the Jaws book sucks balls (just what I've heard). Oh, and the Bourne Identity. The book was so-bad-it's-fucking-awesome, the movie is just fucking awesome.

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#11  Edited By GunstarRed

jurassic park also (although some would argue)...and ghost in the shell, the manga it is based upon is horrible
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#12  Edited By ryanwho

A few Michael Crichton books turned out better in movies. The original 1971 Andromeda Strain, Jurassic Park, the 13th Warrior,  Westworld, etc.  
Far more of his adaptations are practically B movies, which I guess is charming. Congo is a fun movie in a really stupid way.

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#13  Edited By GunstarRed
@ryanwho:
that probably says more about crichton as a writer
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#14  Edited By nrain

The Da Vinci Code, even an average movie is better than that garbage ass book. Dan Brown has incredibly made a career from not having any skill in literature, but I will admit the plot is kinda engrosing but the way he cobbles it together MY LORD it's ass.

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"No Country For Old Men" is a better movie than book. The changes that the Coen brothers made to the books story line made for a better story overall. The books not bad but the movie is an amazing experience. I absolutely love the lack of a soundtrack, the ambient natural sounds make the movie. 

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#16  Edited By Famov
@turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "

The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material.
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@Famov said:
" @turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "
The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material. "
This is technically true. Because I tried reading the first book and couldn't bring myself to finish. It just slogged along like a snail and I quit. Maybe the book magically becomes well written later down the line.
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#18  Edited By slinky6

Blade Runner is a lot different from it's source material (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?), but I'd still say it counts.

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@nrain said:
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The Da Vinci Code, even an average movie is better than that garbage ass book. Dan Brown has incredibly made a career from not having any skill in literature, but I will admit the plot is kinda engrosing but the way he cobbles it together MY LORD it's ass.

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I liked the books :x
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#20  Edited By Gabriel

Forrest Gump was originally a book, and the movie blows it out of the water.
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#21  Edited By ArchScabby
@marioncobretti said:
" this is easy... the lord of the rings films are much better than the book they are based upon.... if i wanted a two page description of the way some fucking grass is blowing in the wind...Oh...no....actually I don't "
oh man I feel the same way.  I remember getting halfway through The Two Towers, and when I started describing how a tree looked for like three fucking pages  I threw that book away and never picked it up again.
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#22  Edited By Famov
@ryanwho said:
" @Famov said:
" @turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "
The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material. "
This is technically true. Because I tried reading the first book and couldn't bring myself to finish. It just slogged along like a snail and I quit. Maybe the book magically becomes well written later down the line. "

Anyone who lets the Old Forest best them are no better than Fredegar Bolger! (this is where 99% of people stop reading The Fellowship)
 
Lord of the Rings is a fantastically written book. But for all its merits, it lays the descriptive exposition on very thick. The movies do manage to streamline this but their greatest successes are where they keep in spirit with the books; the lengthy, carefully written spirit of the books. 
 
And for what its worth, the writing does improve significantly after the Council of Elrond.
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#23  Edited By zombie2011

I liked The Shawshank Redemption better than the novel.

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#24  Edited By Jimbo
@Famov said:
" @turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "
The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material. "
I'd read all of them before and after the movies were released and I would honestly say that I think the Fellowship movie is better than the book.   That first LOTR book draaaaags and the stuff they cut (Tom Bombadil etc.) sucked anyway - Bombadil always seemed out of place in LOTR to me, it's like he breaks the universe.  It blew my mind what they managed to achieve with the first LOTR movie, especially that narrated opening.
 
Towers I don't have a strong opinion either way.  RoTK the book is far superior, they dropped the ball on the movie imo - the army of the dead rocking up at Pelennor and pwning everything completely misses the point and undermines pretty much that entire story arc.
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#25  Edited By AlexB

That's kind of a loaded question considering nearly every movie nowadays is based off of a book, or a well known screenplay. So if the movie is good obviously people are going to like it better than the source material, considering most people are too lazy to actually read them anyway.

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#26  Edited By Geno

I thought DOA the movie was pretty good.
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#27  Edited By Red12b
@AlexB:
Yeah, but hopefully there are some people that bother to read? 
 
I hope.
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#28  Edited By Whisperkill
@marioncobretti said:
"jurassic park also (although some would argue)...and ghost in the shell, the manga it is based upon is horrible "

I thought the movie came first, then the manga, then the anime
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Road To Perdition
A History of Violence
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#30  Edited By Red12b
@Geno:
hahaha, I see what you did there. 
 
And yeah it's better than what it could have been, but it's not great, but DoA Volleyball into a movie it works.
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#31  Edited By _Nuno_
@marioncobretti: I have to disagree with you on that. The LOTR movies take alot of fun parts out of the story, like the death of Saruman and put in parts that don't really take place in the lore.
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@slinky6: agreed
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Sin City
The Godfather Trilogy
Battle Royale
A Clockwork Orange
Interview with the vampire
The Living Daylights

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#34  Edited By Famov
@Jimbo:
I do mostly agree with you, about Bombadil being superfluous and all, though my favorite part in the books (and movies) was the Bridge of Kazad Dum, which is why I've read the Fellowship more than the other books.
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#35  Edited By spacetrucking
The Godfather. The book was alright but the performances in the movie took the characters to a whole new level. You can also include a whole lot of superhero movies because most of them outdid their comics in terms of writing, presentation and definitely cohesiveness. Sorry comic book fans but Marvel/DC really need to get their act together and sort out the gigantic mess that is comic book story arcs. Those things are harder to understand than nuclear physics (No, thats not a good thing).
 
@_Nuno_ said:
" @marioncobretti: I have to disagree with you on that. The LOTR movies take alot of fun parts out of the story, like the death of Saruman and put in parts that don't really take place in the lore. "
Agreed. LOTR the book is as good if not a better adventure than the movies. I'm guessing people just have a really short attention span these days and can't go through 10 pages without some action.
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#36  Edited By Vonocourt
@Chipset_Seven: 
With 2001, the book and movie were made at the concurrently, the book being based on early drafts of the screenplay.
 
Raging Bull was much better than the memoir it was based on.
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#37  Edited By spacetrucking
@Jimbo said:

" @Famov said:

" @turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "
The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material. "
I'd read all of them before and after the movies were released and I would honestly say that I think the Fellowship movie is better than the book.   That first LOTR book draaaaags and the stuff they cut (Tom Bombadil etc.) sucked anyway - Bombadil always seemed out of place in LOTR to me, it's like he breaks the universe.  It blew my mind what they managed to achieve with the first LOTR movie, especially that narrated opening.  Towers I don't have a strong opinion either way.  RoTK the book is far superior, they dropped the ball on the movie imo - the army of the dead rocking up at Pelennor and pwning everything completely misses the point and undermines pretty much that entire story arc. "
I actually found Tom Bombadil's story to be quite interesting because he was this one person in the whole world who didn't care for the ring. That in itself made him an intriguing character. Besides, he didn't break the universe, he just fills the typical Bard template (though a very dark, mysterious one).
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#38  Edited By pirate_republic
@ryanwho said:
" @Famov said:
" @turbomonkey138 said:
"Lord of the rings "
The only people who say that are people who haven't read the source material. "
This is technically true. Because I tried reading the first book and couldn't bring myself to finish. It just slogged along like a snail and I quit. Maybe the book magically becomes well written later down the line. "
Just because you have a short attention span, that doesn't mean the books weren't well written. If you truly appreciate literature, then it should  be clear that LOTR is a marvel of writing that is easily one of the top fantasies of all time.
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#39  Edited By azteris
@Necrorrilla said:
" To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) Only because that's the only source material I read (school mandate) . Only took 2 hours v. the 2 weeks of classes it took to read and I understood the message better and connected easier with the movie. "
I would disagree, the novel was much better. I remember disliking the editing.
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#40  Edited By buzz_clik
@Red12b said:

" Fight club. "

I came in to say precisely this. I wouldn't feel to guilty about holding this opinion - I'm pretty sure Chuck himself agrees with you.
 
Also, I'd say Blade Runner except for the fact it comes from the film mutating into something different to the book. I love the original story, but I don't re-read it half as much as I indulge in repeat viewings of its cinematic counterpart.
 
As an aside, I'd say the other end of the scale sees me loving Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange, while thinking the movie is not that great. It's got some great iconic imagery, but on the whole I really don't like it.
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#41  Edited By pakx
@Black_Rose said:
" Sin City "
Uh, really? cause the movie and the book are entirely the same.
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#42  Edited By bumfred

Total Recall.  The story  "We Can Remember it for you Wholesale" is really good too.
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#43  Edited By bacongames

I would say overall given the writing style LOTR is a good book but a great movie.  Given it was intended as an epic as a book and a movie, I think the movies do a much better job of that.  Personally that storyline should have been across two books and not three.  I found the films too entertaining beyond the simple violence that elitist dicks assume is the reason the films are preferred over the books.

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#44  Edited By Heartagram

I'm pretty surprised no one has put this but i would say riddick escape from butcher bay is leaps and bounds better than the riddick movie 
 
Can't think of any others right off. 
 
Edit: My bad i thought you said anything that was better than the source material but i guess this would be an opposite of the OP
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#45  Edited By jeffgoldblum
@marioncobretti said:
" jurassic park also (although some would argue) "
Dude! The Jurassic Park books are 800000% better than the movies and I fucking love those movies. Just look at my avatar.
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#46  Edited By Heartagram
@pakx said:
" @Black_Rose said:
" Sin City "
Uh, really? cause the movie and the book are entirely the same. "

QFT The dialogue is pretty much entirely the same
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#47  Edited By TheGremp

Star Trek.  I honestly can't stand the TV show, but the movie was phenomenal.

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#48  Edited By StarFry64

Fight Club, A Clockwork Orange

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#49  Edited By Heartagram
@TheGremp said:
"Star Trek.  I honestly can't stand the TV show, but the movie was phenomenal. "

Thats actually a really good one i tried to watch the show before and oh god was it boring
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#50  Edited By Red12b

I am going to say it, i know i'll be battered to death for it but hey, Gotta live life dangerously, 
Transformers, Sure it's bay, but it's not that bad, And I mean come on it's based off of a toy! 
Also although the original is quite a classic, i always enjoyed Gone in sixty seconds, It's a guilty pleasure. 
 
I am also going to wade into this LOTR's debate, The book's are better. 
It's just so, Even though Peter Jackson is a master, the book's are better, Even though he has got over 13 hours of film for the trillogy, The book's are better, Pure escapism into the mind of tolkien!