Mass Effect 2 wasn't a bad game at all ,It was fun and exciting game . But it was good for the wrong reasons, the first mass effect was a true RPG with a expansive ability chart and assortment of different weapons and loot .However Mass Effect  did have below average shooting mechanics  and  item management was frustrating .You would think the second would be amazing  because all they had to do was tweak a  few flawed  parts of the game.Which they did in mass effect 2, the shooting mechanics are phenomenal. So why is the first one better than? they stripped that game into a another third person shooter, they solved item management by removing items all together so theres no longer a loot system. Bioware also  decide to dumb down the ability tree  so theres almost  no in depth character customization          

   Mass Effect 2 wasn't a bad game at all ,It was fun and exciting game . But it was good for the wrong reasons, the first mass effect was a true RPG with a expansive ability chart and assortment of different weapons and loot .However Mass Effect  did have below average shooting mechanics  and  item management was frustrating .You would think the second would be amazing  because all they had to do was tweak a  few flawed  parts of the game.Which they did in mass effect 2, the shooting mechanics are phenomenal. So why is the first one better than? they stripped that game into a another third person shooter, they solved item management by removing items all together so theres no longer a loot system. Bioware also  decide to dumb down the ability tree  so theres almost  no in depth character customization          

Why it wasnt: I enjoyed it.

This is a new and novel topic and I am excited to discuss it.

" This is a new and novel topic and I am excited to discuss it. "

Excuse me, but your topic title needs to read: "Why Mass Effect 2 was a dissapointment in my opinion".
 
As I said before, how about we bloody stop giving Bioware flak for this?
They make some of the best games around, have personally never failed me with expectations and so far don't seem like stopping soon.
Go complain about other games that are worth complaining about, the Mass Effects are a bloody work of art.

I too preferred ME1 to ME2.  Just something about it.  It felt right.  That excused the less than perfect gunplay, even though I had no real problems with it, but I can see how others did.  ME2 seemed to lose a lot of the amazing atmosphere from the first.

"Excuse me, but your topic title needs to read: "Why Mass Effect 2 was a dissapointment in my opinion".  As I said before, how about we bloody stop giving Bioware flak for this? They make some of the best games around, have personally never failed me with expectations and so far don't seem like stopping soon. Go complain about other games that are worth complaining about, the Mass Effects are a bloody work of art. "

Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse.

It felt like I spent half of my final ME1 playthrough (level 60 + insanity) throwing trash out of my inventory.  I don't begrudge them simplifying this game one bit.  It still felt very tactical in the right ways in terms of character building.
 
My only issue with ME2 given the weight of each 'talent point' was no ability to respec your crew.  Less a problem in ME1 because you had so many points.  Also ME2 encouraged you to vary your crew mission by mission (vs. building a dream team based on combat/tech/biotics ratings) and made the story more interesting.

" Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

I think Mass Effect 1 was better simply because Saren and Sovereign made for far better antagonists than the stupid Collectors. Mass Effect 2 was still great and I don't find any of your points to be significant.

I thought Mass Effect was a great game and loved Mass Effect 2. As I posted in another thread I feel like the changes made to the gameplay mechanics between the two games had more to do with streamlining than dumbing down.

"Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

 @FrostedDolphin:  
All of the things you're complaining about are still in Mass Effect 2. Also, if your complaints are about lack of a loot system (I don't understand this point because there is still loot in this game) and a slightly dumbed down ability tree, it seems that you're misunderstanding the definition of an RPG.

play mass effect 1  

"  @FrostedDolphin:  
All of the things you're complaining about are still in Mass Effect 2. Also, if your complaints are about lack of a loot system (I don't understand this point because there is still loot in this game) and a slightly dumbed down ability tree, it seems that you're misunderstanding the definition of an RPG. "

" @SpiralStairs said:

" Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

Nope. "

I agree with you, but not really because of the game mechanics. The removal of the inventory and the simplifying of the stats tree weren't actually welcome additions for me, but it was whatever. From a pure gameplay perspective, I believe that Mass Effect 2 was a billion times better than Mass Effect 1. 
 
But what Mass Effect 2 lacked was the overall feeling of awe that the first Mass Effect captured so beautifully. The reason why I loved the first Mass Effect was because to me, it was how the '70's thought the future would be like, if that makes any sense to anyone but myself. And I loved that fact. The lens flare, combined with the film grain, with the amazing background score overall, was what MADE Mass Effect great. Everything that Mass Effect did made me believe that, "Yep. We're in the future, alright." Literally, I would just leave the game paused to I could endlessly hear this - 
 
    

You know, making Mass Effect 2 more of a shooter and less of an RPG was the greatest thing to happen to it. Who gives a damn if the mechanics aren't determined by dice rolls and percentages anymore? It is a significantly better playing game, and if that is at the expense of the first game's attempt at being a hybrid then so be it. If I wanted to play a Bioware RPG with good RPG mechanics, I would play Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate 2.

Another person complaining about BioWare making Mass Effect 2 more accessible.
 
Move along, move along.

Mass Effect 2 did give you less customization choices than the first game, yes. But the choices it gave you were a billion times more meaningful. Choosing whether an assault rifle is burst or fully automatic is a much better option than having to waste a lot of time managing loot and equipment to get a weapon with better stats that have unintelligible effects. 
 
 
 
 
I would also like to remind everybody that your opinions aren't fact, and making general statements like "MASS EFFECT 2 SUCKS AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY CUSTOMIZATION" just makes people want to strangle you for being such a freaking moron.

" Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

I wouldn't say it was disappointing for me, just didn't match my initial reaction the original Mass Effect gave me. There is ''alot'' I miss from the original aswell, but ME2 is still a top quality game for me.

" Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

" @SpiralStairs said:

" Mass Effect was boring, and the story was shit. Mass Effect 2 was worse. "

ME2 was overrated but not worse. ME1 was shit. "

Shit hit the fan and there was no time for Shepard to go loot hunting. He only had enough time to assemble his team. He doesn't need a metric fuck ton skill tree because he was already a bad ass.

i agree ME2 was a dull shooter, I only cleared it once and am not going to do so again.
 
On the other hand, I cleared ME1 4 times :)

For me, if a game has too much loot I waste too much time searching for items that suit my play style. If I spend too much time loot hunting I lose interest and move on to another game. I love me some RPG's, but sometimes the equipment grinding is lengthy and tedious. When I player ME1 I grew impatient and only played through mandatory missions. ME2 was has more of a movie or episodic feel to it, which was pretty cool. I understand why you were disappointed. You expected an rpg with a in-depth equipment system, and a vast amount of weapons to choose from. You're not saying that the game is shit; you're stating that ME2 did not meet your expectations.

Even if the shooting was shite (which it wasint) the Story,Setting and Characters was more than enough to keep me playing through the first and the second game. Some folk dig it and some dont. No such thing as a universal opinion.

Yeah, man, I hope they make it more of an RPG for the third installment.

Personally, ME2 was far better than the original. I wouldn't call it disappointing since I felt more connected with the universe than I did in ME1. I get the whole dumbed down weapons, upgrades, etc. I like it much more like this though. To me, ME1 had too many customizable options for me. Too many weapons, ammo, etc. to choose from. I didn't know where to start, or even what to invest in. With ME2, it was gone which made my advancement in the game much more easier.
 
Plus, Afterlife was the shit.
 
Edit: the only thing I didn't like with ME2 was all the scanning. Too much scanning and holding down the left trigger. MY INDEX FINGER IS PERMANENTLY BRUISED.

" Tthe only thing I didn't like with ME2 was all the scanning. Too much scanning and holding down the left trigger. MY INDEX FINGER IS PERMANENTLY BRUISED. "

As tedious as it was I thought it was a really good idea, it seemed relevant to the experience.

" Personally, ME2 was far better than the original. I wouldn't call it disappointing since I felt more connected with the universe than I did in ME1. I get the whole dumbed down weapons, upgrades, etc. I like it much more like this though. To me, ME1 had too many customizable options for me. Too many weapons, ammo, etc. to choose from. I didn't know where to start, or even what to invest in. With ME2, it was gone which made my advancement in the game much more easier. "

Mass Effect 2 was a game I liked much less after I was finished. At the time it was amazing, but because it's not a proper RPG it doesn't have the replayability you expect from the genre. Once you've seen the story once, you're pretty much good. To put that into perspective, a few months ago I was undecided on what game to play and decided to do a third Dragon Age playthrough instead of a second ME2 playthrough. Which surely means Dragon Age is 50% better than Mass Effect 2. MATH.
 
That said, ME2 is objectively amazing. It's just not what I wanted from a Mass Effect sequel, in hindsight, and Dragon Age is still the winner in my heart.