" @Benjaminvdv said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" is that a fucking joke? the 360 controller is the worst one since the N64's controller "

I gotta ask, did you play with fireworks or something when you were a little kid and lost a few fingers? Because the N64 is imo the second best controller ever made, if it wasn't for the deep rings on the thumbstick it would be pretty much perfect... 

I gotta ask how much crack you do today? that thing was horrid... fucking analog stick in the middle hated that thing   and who are all you people with pygmy hands both the ps3 and xbox are the same to me unless of course you try to use the xbox dpad for anything requiring timing "

I loath the 360 controller, for the simple reason you can't reach all the buttons at once. For example, in GTA4, you can't accelerate, go into drive by mode, and shoot at the same time, with the PS3 you can. Also, the Xbox controller is weirdly shaped. Also, the N64 controller was shit, you could only ever use half the controller, and it was rather unwieldy.

Looking forward to the review of said controller, I might get one for my friends who prefer using the 360 controller when they come over to play PS3. 

<opinion style="subjective">
Personally I prefer the PS3 controller. I think it has something to do with the fact that I started out with the NES, moved on to SNES, and then I didn't aquire a new console until the PS2 and now I own a PS3. If you look at the NES > SNES > PS2/3 controller design, to me it just feels like a natural progression. I've tried using the controllers of other systems throughout the years of gaming with friends, and everything from the N64 to the XBOX360 controller just feels really odd and out of place. Today's Dualshock 3 is perfect for me.
</opinion>

" I've heard there's ways to connect a XBOX360 controller to a PS3, google it. I saw a video of someone playing KZ2 with a 360 controller.  I don't understand how you manage to tolerate the atrocious d-pads of the 360 controller. "

" is that a fucking joke? the 360 controller is the worst one since the N64's controller "

There are some other companies that make 360-like controllers for the PS3, but they're not exactly the absolute same thing. Frankly, the 360 and PS3 controllers are mostly identical, as far as I'm concerned, except that the 360 is made for real people and the PS3 controller is made for Oompah Loompah sized hands. The solution, I found, was to buy these little trigger extenders that snap right on (very sturdily so, too) over the existing triggers. For $5, they do a hell of a job and make the PS3 controller completely acceptable to me.

" I don't get why people hate the dualshock so much... I don't quite see how the 360 controller can be any better, and yes, I have used both. "

" is that a fucking joke? the 360 controller is the worst one since the N64's controller "

It surprises me how much people like the XBOX controller. It's definitely comfortable, but I don't really have an issue with the DualShock at all. I'm not a fan of the triggers, but I like its shape and weight.
 
Oh, and this. Cheers GAF.
 

" @trophyhunter said:

" is that a fucking joke? the 360 controller is the worst one since the N64's controller "

Yet, compared to the PS3 controller, it's a thousand leagues above it. I mean, unless you have hands like a little girl, in which case it's probably not so bad. "

Honestly it comes down to personal preference and I think it is just ignorant to assume everyone agrees with your opinion of a controller, even worse so if you feel that person has to have fucked up hands to think otherwise. 
 
 I have large hands and I love the PS3 controller, think it is perfect and personally feel the 360 controller to not be as good. The 64 controller was ok, but not the best ever. Honestly though who gives a rats ass what controller people like. Don't like the controller, don't use it. Plain and simple.

" Honestly it comes down to personal preference and I think it is just ignorant to assume everyone agrees with your opinion of a controller, even worse so if you feel that person has to have fucked up hands to think otherwise.

Thats one thing I'm considering about purchasing a PS3. I LOVE 360 controllers. And I have never had much problem with the d-pad.

" @Benjaminvdv:  I am really loving how your opinion has now changed to FACT.    I am a grown man and can fully grip the PS3 controller without my thumbs touching. I would suggest you try holding the PS3 controller properly, as I a grown fucking man with normal sized man hands can do it just fine :) "

" @klownboots said:

" @Benjaminvdv:  I am really loving how your opinion has now changed to FACT.    I am a grown man and can fully grip the PS3 controller without my thumbs touching. I would suggest you try holding the PS3 controller properly, as I a grown fucking man with normal sized man hands can do it just fine :) "

You might be a grown man, but that doesn't mean you have big or even average sized hands... No matter how I old it, if want my thumbs to be on the thumbsticks and my other fingers on the top buttons then there is lots of space between my hands and the controller. When I do fully grip it then the thumbsticks are halfway at my thumbs. Now unless you want to call me a liar then these are facts. You have to understand that if your hands are only a bit smaller then mine then it could make a huge difference. Seriously, why do you think there are so many complaints about these controllers. If you like the DS3 then that's fine, if you can fully grip it, then that's great, but many of us can't, it's a common complaint, saying this is not a fact even though so many people have the same issue should make you think if you're not the one who is wrong.   Anyway as for the controller, I'm still not sure if I'm going for the Shadow 6 or the adaptor, if the adaptor truly offers me the quality I want, then it would be ideal, well minus the cable ofcourse... "

" @Benjaminvdv said:

" @klownboots said:

" @Benjaminvdv:  I am really loving how your opinion has now changed to FACT.    I am a grown man and can fully grip the PS3 controller without my thumbs touching. I would suggest you try holding the PS3 controller properly, as I a grown fucking man with normal sized man hands can do it just fine :) "

You might be a grown man, but that doesn't mean you have big or even average sized hands... No matter how I old it, if want my thumbs to be on the thumbsticks and my other fingers on the top buttons then there is lots of space between my hands and the controller. When I do fully grip it then the thumbsticks are halfway at my thumbs. Now unless you want to call me a liar then these are facts. You have to understand that if your hands are only a bit smaller then mine then it could make a huge difference. Seriously, why do you think there are so many complaints about these controllers. If you like the DS3 then that's fine, if you can fully grip it, then that's great, but many of us can't, it's a common complaint, saying this is not a fact even though so many people have the same issue should make you think if you're not the one who is wrong.   Anyway as for the controller, I'm still not sure if I'm going for the Shadow 6 or the adaptor, if the adaptor truly offers me the quality I want, then it would be ideal, well minus the cable ofcourse... "

I'm used to holding the grips of the PS3 in my fingers.  If I hold them in my palms, the thumb sticks end up in my palms too.  How the hell are you holding these things people? "

OLOLOLOL IT'S JUST AS FUNNY AS IT WAS IN THE PRECEDING PAGE!!!!11oneoneone!!
 
Oh yeah, anybody saying that the N64 controller was shitty are either 12 and wasn't around or is a complete retard.
But to everybody bitching about SIXAXIS or Dual Shock 3, remember this?
 

" @teh_pwnzorer said:

" @Benjaminvdv said:

" @klownboots said:

" @Benjaminvdv:  I am really loving how your opinion has now changed to FACT.    I am a grown man and can fully grip the PS3 controller without my thumbs touching. I would suggest you try holding the PS3 controller properly, as I a grown fucking man with normal sized man hands can do it just fine :) "

You might be a grown man, but that doesn't mean you have big or even average sized hands... No matter how I old it, if want my thumbs to be on the thumbsticks and my other fingers on the top buttons then there is lots of space between my hands and the controller. When I do fully grip it then the thumbsticks are halfway at my thumbs. Now unless you want to call me a liar then these are facts. You have to understand that if your hands are only a bit smaller then mine then it could make a huge difference. Seriously, why do you think there are so many complaints about these controllers. If you like the DS3 then that's fine, if you can fully grip it, then that's great, but many of us can't, it's a common complaint, saying this is not a fact even though so many people have the same issue should make you think if you're not the one who is wrong.   Anyway as for the controller, I'm still not sure if I'm going for the Shadow 6 or the adaptor, if the adaptor truly offers me the quality I want, then it would be ideal, well minus the cable ofcourse... "

I'm used to holding the grips of the PS3 in my fingers.  If I hold them in my palms, the thumb sticks end up in my palms too.  How the hell are you holding these things people? "

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   It had to be done again, right? "

Yeah, I can't understand how that got so far past the drawing board that they even made a prototype for it.
 
Personally I wouldn't mind the DS3 to have a few improvements. The positioning of the analogue sticks isn't ergonomically salient.
Probably one of the reasons I had problems really getting into Killzone 2. But for games like MGS4, Uncharted 2 or Wipeout HD, they've been terrific.
I'm not sure if they're good or bad for Noby Noby Boy, but that's less the fault of the controller than the insane fever dream which that game is.
I still prefer the 360 controllers, but most detractors here are acting like it shoots out spikes into your palms when you use it.

I'm used to holding the grips of the PS3 in my fingers.  If I hold them in my palms, the thumb sticks end up in my palms too.  How the hell are you holding these things people? "

" @get2sammyb: It DID need to be posted again, as I can only assume that is how the OP is holding the controller... "

The PS3's controller doesn't have a comfortable grip and/or better L2 and R2 triggers.
The 360's controller is heavy, too big and has weak thumb stick grips. Long term usage of the thumb sticks would wear out the grips at the surface thus becoming more slippery. The controller also looks fat.

I wonder when was the last time someone played on a N64 controller in this thread. I played Ocarina of Time on monday. Nintendo didn't even use the left prong at all. It's an incredibl ugly obnoxious controller that should have been redesigned. As for the Gamecube controller. I enjoyed it in theory. But playing Geist on it was an incredibly frustrating experience for me. As for the Dualshock, I've never felt limited by it. The 360 controller on the other hand was a pain for me playing PGR3, the slightest tap to the left bumper kept changing the camera view and I kept running into wall. To make matters worst, it wasn't even configurable, so I had an atrocious time trying to avoid braking in that game lest I change the camera at the wrong time. I prefer the DS3 over the 360 for the most part. I do enjoy the thickness of the 360 controller which makes it easier to wrap around, but the symmentry of the DS3 makes it easy for me. But KB/M is king overall.

I prefer the 360 controller, but I don't see anything wrong with the dualshock. Though I would like it if they made a version with concave analog sticks, like the 360, rather than convex. It would make it much easier to aim in shooters.
 
Oh shit, and good triggers. Forgot about that - good triggers, and and concave analog sticks.

"Oh yeah, anybody saying that the N64 controller was shitty are either 12 and wasn't around or is a complete retard.
"

I personally believe the only redeeming factor about the DS3 controller is the D-Pad, which is superior to the 360 controller.
 
Then again, this might be because of positioning. DS3 controller's D-Pad is placed in a primary position, where 360's D-Pad is placed in a secondary position. But I'm guessing the DS3 D-Pad would be better if they were both put in the same position.
 
Anyway, all controllers fail in comparison to the Wii Remote. You just can't beat that.

" @Benjaminvdv said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" is that a fucking joke? the 360 controller is the worst one since the N64's controller "

I gotta ask, did you play with fireworks or something when you were a little kid and lost a few fingers? Because the N64 is imo the second best controller ever made, if it wasn't for the deep rings on the thumbstick it would be pretty much perfect... 
Anyway just so you know, depending on the size of your hands etc some controllers feel better then others, now since I've litteraly used every single official controller of all the main consoles since the 8bit gen I do know what I'm talking about, and the 360 controller is by far the best I've ever used, I can completely wrap my hands around the controller whereas with the PS3 controller there is quite a bit of space between my hands/fingers and the controller, which just doesn't feel as comfortable, besides when the Dual Shock came out we were all still using the 4 points digital controls and the analog sticks were simply added, these days we use the analog sticks all the time, especially the left one, hence it should be in a more comfortable position.
Trust me, I'm not a Sony hater, I own all their consoles plus the PSP, but their controllers seriously need a major redesign, the Dual Shock was excusable, the Dual Shock 2 was pretty bad since they should have redesigned it, but using it again for the PS3 is just inexcusable.
 
 
@mhkjtha:
@ZeForgotten:
Well I found this the last time I was looking around, but like I said, you can't go wireless and it costs quite a bit, especially since I probably would have to import it. "

Nintendo thought that the Playstation controller was good and made the Gamecube controller, which is an improvement over the playstation controller in some ways but a devolution in others (i.e., the A,B,X,Y button layout was designed for button mashing elementary school kids). "

" The controller also looks fat. "

you cannot play vs-fighting games on 360 controllers.... 
 
i think i saw one that looks similar to 360 but ps3 controller. forgot where.

" Yeah, I can't understand how that got so far past the drawing board that they even made a prototype for it. "

  @ Benjaminvdv  So, what did you decide to do?  

That's been brought up in this thread as well as the converter cable for a 360 controller playing on a PS3.  Just wanted to see what he decided to do as i've yet to hear a real review from a person on these boards.

Really? Wow I'd like to do the inverse and use a dual shock on the 360, the 360 controller for some reason makes my hands hurt after a very short period of time. I also find the sensitivity and feel of the dual shock better. Also been using the dual shock since it came out in 98 so its just more natural to use that.

I recently got myself a PS3 and the controller does not feel good to me at all, the control sticks annoy me to no end.. I am quite comfortable with the 360 one though, so I only see a few options.
1. Buy a XCM Battle adapter. $69.90 USD - $76.58 AUD at Play-Asia. This seems like a good option, I have a wired 360 controller so its all good.
2. Buy a Shadow 6 PS3 controller off ebay from the states. The left control stick is in the right position for me but I would prefer a 360 type control stick. Works out to be about $80+ AUD with shipping.
 
I would rather not buy anything else at the moment but if i want to play more PS3 games well, ill have to take one of these options. Any other ideas or which option i should choose?

i know this is just your opinion and its cool to use what you like... but I couldn't disagree more. I absolutely hate the 360 controller. The thing that bothers me the most is that it is not symmetrical. I hate the stick placement and the overall shape of it. And what I hate more is people calling the L2/R2 buttons on the PS3 controller triggers. They are not fucking triggers... they are just variable buttons. Most shooters use L1/R1 as the actual "trigger" buttons. Using L1/R1 feels perfect to me.  The PS3 is the most comfortable design, for me, that I have ever used. 

The three things I hate about the DS3 are the horrid shoulder buttons, the loose analog sticks and the crampness of it all. My hands are a little too big for it.

" i know this is just your opinion and its cool to use what you like... but I couldn't disagree more. I absolutely hate the 360 controller. The thing that bothers me the most is that it is not symmetrical. I hate the stick placement and the overall shape of it. And what I hate more is people calling the L2/R2 buttons on the PS3 controller triggers. They are not fucking triggers... they are just variable buttons. Most shooters use L1/R1 as the actual "trigger" buttons. Using L1/R1 feels perfect to me.  The PS3 is the most comfortable design, for me, that I have ever used.  "

" Really? Wow I'd like to do the inverse and use a dual shock on the 360, the 360 controller for some reason makes my hands hurt after a very short period of time. I also find the sensitivity and feel of the dual shock better. Also been using the dual shock since it came out in 98 so its just more natural to use that. "

@Eric_Buck said:

" @Benjaminvdv: Once you start playing shooters on PS3 you get used to it immediatly. "

You should look up the definition of immediately... I own Infamous and I've played quite a bit of CoD:MW2 at a friend this weekend (atleast 5+ hours) on his PS3 (I own it myself on the 360), and while I got better later on, the controller still did not feel right. My friend says the same and he's pretty much a hardcore PS player, he even sold his 360 to get a PS3 and while he loves it, he still thinks the 360 controller is better, and that's months of playing CoD4 and MW2.

As for what I'm going to get, I will be getting the adapter at some point, not sure when yet, but the quality of the 360 controller is just great and I'm afraid that a 3rd party controller will break down at some point, I've yet to own a non-console controller that actually kept working great.