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#1  Edited By ajtee519

@besetmentWhich is unfortunate, I think alot of people, many of whom probably have no idea about what's happening, would listen to it, intently, because we all like and trust these people. And I want to be clear about that. I like and trust the people of the gbcast. I think maybe they can't do what I'm suggesting they do. I'm not suggesting that they're supportive of the CCP. I DO think they should take a stance regardless, or do their best to do so while letting us know that they can't, if they cant. Creativity goes a long way when you're trying to say something you're not allowed to say. I certainly do not think they're happy or supportive of what's happening in China, but I'd very much like them to speak up.

@eccentrix ummmm they don't have time, once, in the span of 3-4 hours to take a few minutes and take a stance? This is an ongoing genocide by a group of people who are more and more becoming a very very loud and powerful influence in the video game industry...your entire argument is fucking terrible. They've got plenty of time to talk about Activision every week.

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Could you please be specific? Are you saying you want the crew to talk about the Uyghur genocide on the bombcast?

I think they should at least acknowledge that it's happening and the same party that is committing this atrocity is also becoming more and more intertwined, financially with the video game industry...an industry that these same monsters refer to as "spiritual heroin" Yea, I think it deserves a fucking comment from some of the most trusted, wide reaching, voices in the industry. Like...make no mistake, in function, ignoring this is no less terrible than the people who in history, ignored other genocides happening around them...at all. If you have the voice to speak out, and it directly effects the thing you talk about, on top of that...you should fucking say something, even if it doesn't change anything. It's what's right.

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@sethmodeI don't think they support them. I think they might be slightly compromised in what they can and can't say, because to pretend this isn't an insidious fucking issue is a straight up delusion. Why is it more ok to NOT call out the CCP for their genocide then it would be for anyone else to not call out another country for the same thing? If they're a group of tyrants committing a systematic ethnic cleansing...isn't that the one fucking thing we truly hate and loathe supporting in this country more than almost anything else? Shouldn't there be a very strong push back against that in our video game media as the video game world is being slowly swallowed up by such people? Doesn't it at least deserve a fucking discussion? More than anything why WOULDN'T you take the worlds most obvious stand?

Incredibly powerful, genocidal maniac tyrants, slowly buying up the industry we love is something everyone should be very openly against. It's kind of one of those situations where there's no grey unless you lack a conscious.

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@facelessvixen said:

As much as I appreciate the call to arms, I don't see much in the way of a conversation around here going beyond "Yeah; we know that the Chinese government sucks, but what are we supposed to do about it?" Call me a pessimist, but as consumers, the usual raising a stink on Twitter and Reddit won't do shit, and I'm sure that asking China to stop censoring media don't make and state representative's to-do list as far as foreign policy goes; never mind that the notion of getting China to change their policies reeks of American exceptionalism at a point where America has some significant issues to deal with.

The leading video game Podcast should probably have a stance on it. They have plenty on Activision, and I'm for that, but...how fucking nuts is it, that you guys don't expect the bare minimum....video game developers should stop taking chinese money as long as they're genociding people...stance? Like....guys, what the fuck? Again, it's about doing what's right, even if it won't make a difference. Again...there's a word for people who shrug off genocide...let's not be those people.

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CCP money, specifically, is making it's way into video gaming, and more and more developers are taking that money. Any time, in history, that a country's government was committing genocide, we took supporting that, or pretending it wasn't happening, or even worse, profiting off of it, as a bad fucking thing. I'm not painting with a broad brush...I think anyone who's not fucking five years old or being deliberately obtuse understands that I'm talking about the officially recognized and undoubtedly genocidal, government of China...the CCP and how their influence and money is becoming insidiously linked with an industry we all love, as they oppress their own people, as it relates to video games.....and the complete lack of fucking criticism the mostly silent video game media is leveling at them. The government of China is pouring tons of it's money through tencent and others into the industry here...the same government is committing a genocide...nobody is saying shit...that clear enough for you? I'm asking for a stance...it shouldn't be hard. Under no circumstances should "we openly, and aggressively, do not support the genocide happening in China, at the hands of the CCP" be a hard, or even fucking troubling thing to say. The fact that speaking out against a genocide could ever be considered by anyone to be "jumping on a soapbox" is fucking nuts. It's insane to NOT speak out against it. Like....would you have made that argument during Mao and all of his wonderful deeds? Like, that's insane. It's not complicated to be not a terrible person. They're doing terrible things and it's not ok. It's never ok to Genocide...and it's never ok to pretend that it's ok.

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I'll make it even easier than that...give us the GB stance on China (a country who almost everyone agrees is committing Genocide, except the Chinese government themselves) and their influence on Video gaming in general, along with how they treat their citizens. Just...take the worlds simplest stance on the matter...alot of people aren't commenting, but they're looking.

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You can call it out without saying "well its too monstrous for us to conquer, so we'll say nothing" Chosing to ignore it, especially as it more and more plants itself in the industry that you guys report on, and is your literal lifeblood...is a bad thing. I don't care how big the issue is, it only becomes bigger when one of the most prominent hosts, of prominent voices, IN THIS SPACE.. decides to go radio silent as a group. No bueno bro, no bueno at all. It's simply, the right thing to do. I just don't see why you wouldn't, unless you can't...and there is A LOT to be said about ignoring a GENOCIDE for financial purposes, for example, it invalidates your stance on all the other moral things you guys choose to speak about. It's never ok to ignore a genocide. Ever. Like...you can't be ok with ethnic cleansing but pretend that sexual harassment is a thing you all wax poetic on...common sense, one of these things is even worse than the other horrible thing. But it's even worse to be paid by someone committing one. I hope that's not the case, but if it's not....grow some balls, please. It doesn't look good. You should be calling attention to it even if you think that attention will go nowhere, because it's evil...and you shouldn't look the other way on evil. It's not just evil...it's direct evil towards the industry everyone here loves...by a country who's committing a genocide. There is a word for supporting and/or ignoring that kind of behavior, and we all know what it is. Don't be that. Speak.

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And, I'm sorry but any arguement to the effect of "well, it's just China, ya know...they have a lot of influence and money" is utter BS. That's literally saying "they're slowly exterminating an entire group, but, f it, we need dat money dollar dollar bill ya'll". Nah, there is no moral argument for it. None.

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It's kind of odd to me that to this point, there haven't been several call outs of the CCP and what they're doing as far as who can play video games where, and their influence on Western Culture. This is a government that, no theory needed, our present government, and the UN, all agree, have forced Concentration Camps....a little more coverage and calling out of companies that get in bed with this country, would be good. We spend plenty of time on the Activision stuff...and we should, it's just creepy what we're choosing to NOT spend a ton of time on. Could we? This isn't an out of sight, out of mind thing. If we're going to be calling people out for the Activision stuff, it's absolutely gross that we put developers who get in bed with a country committing a genocide, live and in real time, on a list of those who shall not be called out. Also, one who is actively destroying artistic freedom in video games, and calling them "spiritual heroin" ...I mean, on every level, every time they can choose to be evil or not....they choose openly, Saturday Morning Cartoon villain, levels of evil. Every effing time.

Moral consistency, is super important, and frankly if you're not allowed to talk about it...then there's a much bigger issue at play here, I hope that's not the case.