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@VibratingDonkey said:

Disc locked content is crappy. But don't think there's a way of actually solving the problem. Publishers will just make the content DLC, delay the release and pretend they didn't work on it during development of the game. So what have we accomplished? We've only made it worse for ourselves really.

Real problem here is DLC that is planned and made during the development of the main game. For some reason people have this crazy idea that everything made during this period should be part of the retail release. It also doesn't help that it's technically not worth the time or effort to remove DLC-stuff from the retail build of the game and that this makes people feel that they have paid for something that they have no access to. Of course in the reality that DLC never was a part of the deal. Retail version of SFxT had all the characters they advertised it to have and by buying the game, you agreed to gain access only to those advertised characters. What's actually on the disc doesn't matter.

Maybe Sony and Microsoft could fix the problems and stop DLC abuse, but generally people need to also have their attitudes checked, companies are making business and things just don't always go like we as consumers want them to go.

@WinterSnowblind said:

I'm not sure why you'd be against DLC and yet prefer the content to already be on the disc. The problem most people have, is that they're being asked to pay for content they technically already own. Why are we having to pay more for something that's already on the disc we have?

DLC can work, in some cases. Borderlands, GTA IV, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Oblivion are pretty good examples of games that were expanded with good amounts of new content after their release. Essentially just expansion packs. I only have a problem when we're being charged for content that was clearly just cut from the main game to make us pay for it, whether or not it's already on the disc, and that's exactly what Capcom has been doing.

It's actually rather simple, I like all available content to exist also on the disc. I don't like it when something exists only as a DLC. It's a nice option to be able to download extra content for a game but I personally like to buy that extra content in physical form as a updated retail release. I generally try to think in long-term and don't trust the online services xbox live to last too far into the future so I want content of my games to be as offline based as possible. I think On- Disc DLC is better than full online-only DLC because if the content is in the disc, it can always be hacked open and someday that could only way to access that content.

I don't feel that Capcom has done anything really wrong so far, atleast what comes to their fighting games. Sure, they should had made SF4 more future-proof but fixed that with SSF4. MvC3 had couple of DLC characters but that seemed to be more of an experiment. UMvC3 could had been just a update for vanilla version but for some reason, they went with full-on upgrade that needed a disc release.

And even with SFxT, I don't feel that they're cutting content just to sell it as a DLC. All those DLC characters are atleast semi-finished because that's how far they were when the retail version was ready, not because they were cut from the game to sell them as a DLC. All that was planned probably from pretty early on the development.

Seriously, Vita version of the game will have exclusive characters that you must pay for on other platforms, what's the problem here? And isn't it actually great that those characters are on the disc so people can access them already at this point by unofficial means? Like I said, I just hope for updated disc release for other platforms too once Vita version comes out or at some point later.

Technically it makes sense to dump all the finished content into the disc, including DLC stuff. I imagine that it's more practical than stripping the finished retail build of the game from the unfinished DLC content.

Personally I don't see any problem with on-disc DLC, if the game has DLC, I kinda prefer it to be on the disc already. I am more against DLC stuff in general, especially what comes to actual gameplay items in multiplayer games. DLC-characters are generally bad idea and I think DLC in fighting games should be limited to single player content and cosmetic stuff like costumes and customization items.

And I do personally hope that we will get eventually a new disc version of Street Fighter x Tekken with the DLC characters unlocked, like we got also a standalone disc version of SSF4: Arcade Edition.

I think Ryan's own strong reaction to what he did shows that for him on personal level it was very wrong thing to do. I do feel that him apologizing for what he did is a sincere reaction. I have never seen Ryan show any signs of homophobia, instead he seems to be very comfortable with his own sexuality and with the gay people.

When talking about used games, it's important to remember that used game market  also helps the sales of new games. Many people sell the games that they bought new just so that they could buy new games. Selling games will lead to potentially many new game purchases that wouldn't had otherwise happened.  And it's good to remember also that money from resold used game could always lead to one more new copy of some game sold.  
 
Used games hurt sales of new games, but they also help their sales in different way. I am pretty sure that sales would be pretty much same, with used game market or without it.

I like my gamecube alot, great console. I liked it even so much that it completely replaced dreamcast  for me. Gamecube has a nice combination of stuff i liked about n64 and stuff i liked about dreamcast.  Tons of great games and it's just a very fun little machine. And it's the only real way to play gamecube games, the wii totally doesn't count. I'd say gamecube is the best  console that nintendo has ever made. It has the whole "Capcom 4",  it has my favorite Mario Kart, Ikaruga and few other awesome dreamcast ports and I think Super Mario Sunshine is alot better game than Mario 64. And I love the minidvd's and the overall design of the gamecube. And purple is just very unique color for a gaming console so i give it also some points for originality.  I think gamecube is really underrated, even more so than dreamcast. And that is alot said from someone who is actually pretty big sega fanboy.