Just wait a few years and the game will be up DRM free on GOG. Until then, get one of the other DRM free games already on GOG. Or make sure to always buy games from Paradox or Stardock, who generally have DRM free games even at retail. DRM is shitty, but Steam is the best option right now for DRM'd games, as it is as non-intrusive as DRM will get, unless it's a simple disc checker like the original release of Borderlands, Universe At War or The Saboteur (which of course still screws over people who buy games for their macbook slim or netbook that doesn't have an optical drive, who apparently didn't see the DVD-ROM logo on the front of the box).

@Contrarian said:

@august said:

Why is he logging into Steam on both Windows and Mac? Is it a game that works on Mac? What is he trying to "fix?" My brain!

Windows to play the game ......... Mac is where I do everything else. I downloaded Steam for Mac, so I could access the site. Stupid Windows won't allow me to connect to the internet, even though Windows shows that I am connected to the internet. I have no idea why it won't connect, yet it talks to Steam - or at least it did.

Now the game just comes to a grinding halt and won't connect to Steam. This is why I hate Windows. A game should just play and it doesn't and it won't. I wasted 7 hours with no reult trying to get it to work.

If you can access Steam on Windows and it connects to the internet why do you need to download it for Mac? You can access the entire Steam website just through a web browser. Although I'm still not clear why you needed to "access the site" in the first place.

@fisk0 said:

Just wait a few years and the game will be up DRM free on GOG. Until then, get one of the other DRM free games already on GOG. Or make sure to always buy games from Paradox or Stardock, who generally have DRM free games even at retail.

His internet is currently at dial-up speed so he's probably incapable of downloading most games anyway.

@fisk0 said:

Just wait a few years and the game will be up DRM free on GOG. Until then, get one of the other DRM free games already on GOG. Or make sure to always buy games from Paradox or Stardock, who generally have DRM free games even at retail.

His internet is currently at dial-up speed so he's probably incapable of downloading most games anyway.

@AhmadMetallic said:

No need to be so angry and hostile, OP. None of us is forced to help you, we can ignore your thread like *snap* that.

Actually Ahmad, my comment wasn't angry or hostile. You're a cool guy and I like you, so when you made that comment about Macs, I assumed you were being flippant and having fun. My comment back was intended the same way and not intended to be taken serious. These are the vagaries of text - it lacks facial cues.

As for everyone else:

My rant was purely about how Steam doesn't work for me - a personal experience. Why the Steam Defence Force needed to take it so personal, I don't get.

I have gamed on my Mac with Windows for years and enjoyed many, many RTS/TBS games, like Civilisation, Age of Empires, World In Conflict, Total War, Empire Earth and The Settlers, all trouble free. Why is wrong of me to expect to be able to continue playing these games without hurdles and hassles? I have no desire to own a gaming rig - I don't need it and I don't want it.

My internet is what my internet is. It is satellite and the best I can get with this restriction. Why should I give up gaming, something I love because some of you think we should all go digital and perhaps move to civilistion? I like my life.

I now have Steam up and running, but it took me a grand total of 13 hours to get it to work before I could play the game. That isn't convenience. I shouldn't have to do that. I should be able to just activate the game and play it. Is that so wrong?

Yes, I did miss the code thing, but that was the least of my problems and resolved quickly. I had never seen that before and I missed it - clearly a hanging offence. The main problem was I had to keep rebooting the computer to get the email on the Mac side and then go back to Windows to activate it. Again, not convenient. Upside, I did manage to fix the internet connection issues I had with Windows.

There is nothing wrong with expecting a gaming experience to be convenient. A PC game on disc should be as simple as security against making copies, exactly the same as console games. Nothing they do to stop piracy will work and it never has. Making it hard to actually play the game you bought isn't helping.

I don't think a Mac is a superior computer. Stop taking everything you read so serious. Stop assuming everything is posted serious. I prefer a Mac and it does exactly what I want it to do and that makes it the right computer for me.

Have a nice day everyone.

Hey guess what. If i bought the same game as you, installed it right now, i would be able to play it as soon as it is installed.

Fucking weird right?

You're whining about security designed to keep people out of your account.

Steam aren't catering for people like you, with your 56k internet and your fucking Mac.

They're catering to people like me, with 300 games on steam, a real PC and a real internet connection.

I use steam every single day and am glad for the security, because if I lost my account id be down about £1,500.

So continue to complain and I shall continue to enjoy features you complain about.

You're living in the past my friend. Technology has moved on and you need to move with it to expect decent results.

RTFM

I'm going to close this. Zero discussion value left and all we have now are people replying with the same stuff that others have already said awhile ago.