The only point of the life you were given is to live. So, as long as you don't off yourself you've done all you're required to do. Everything else is just gravy, baby.
" Judges overturned a vote of the people? And we're celebrating? If you want gay marriage in your state, then vote it in. The reality is that supporters can't even get enough votes in states like California and Mass. Because more people disagree with it than support it. "
You shouldn't be allowed to vote for things that violate the Constitution. It doesn't matter how many people want it. You shouldn't be able to vote for the abolition of freedom of press, because the newspapers really depress you. "
No one is against them getting equal rights and protections in line with the Constitution. It is about redefining the meaning of marriage which has always been between one man and one woman. They can have all the rights they want under their civil union, but don't superimpose your definition on the people who have rejected it everytime it comes up for a vote. Anyway I'm not gonna debate this, but that's my position and the position of the majority in every state that's had to vote on it, even the liberal ones. "
You're wrong. Marriage hasn't always been between one man and one woman. I'm sure somewhere in our past we had a people who allowed men to have more than one wife.
If you're talking about marriage just in America, its most likely true that legally you're right. But I doubt you're right for the reasons you think that you're right. Marriage used to be a business deal. Gay or not you'd end up married to a person of the opposite sex.
And as for voting on the rights of others...It's all good when whats being voted on has nothing to do with you, but when it does, I'm sure its a real bitch. :P
@BlackJedi: Arguing with you is like arguing with someone who believes with all his might, down to the marrow in his bones, that the earth is flat. It doesn't matter how much sense anyone makes, you're never going to concede the point that there is no difference between gays getting married, and animal rape, because you think people and animals have the same power to make an informed decision. You are wrong. There is nothing more to be said.
" Judges overturned a vote of the people? And we're celebrating? If you want gay marriage in your state, then vote it in. The reality is that supporters can't even get enough votes in states like California and Mass. Because more people disagree with it than support it. "
States like California? You mean states that DON'T make the top 10 liberal States list? States that, outside of a few large cities, are heavily rural and conservative? You've gobbled up the soundbite about "San Francisco values" and heard a few actors talk and assume you know a place.
Prop 8 won because of out of state, religious money buying ads to target the legion of rednecks who live here.
I wish conservatives really believed in what they said they do. Government out of your lives. But unfortunately they tack on a "unless you're a fucking homo, or black, or brown, or not Christian. Then OUR government can tell you to do whatever the fuck I was brainwashed into thinking is "right:.""
" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "
So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "
It harms the dog/horse. It also gives it a bunch of human rights and legal rights that animals simply are not deserving of. Obviously. "
how does a woman having sex with a horse harm it? if anyone wants to do that they have rights to let them right? "
Its fucking animal abuse, literally. You can't be this dumb.
" @BlackJedi: Lay down some logical, rational arguments then. I haven't heard a one yet, so I feel good about my assessment. Here's a one to get you started: The state has no right to infringe on the liberty of those who aren't posing any harm to others. Two homosexuals becoming married poses no risk of harm to anyone anymore than two heterosexuals, Caucasian or African, Jew or Gentile being married does, ergo there is no reason for any legal restraint upon it. "
So marrying a dog or a horse also poses no harm or threat to anyone, I could also say there is no reason for legal restraint. right? "
Now you're just being silly. It poses a threat of harm to the animal, which is unable to enter into a contract.
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