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#1  Edited By groposo

@ll_exile_ll said:

If the enemy distribution in Destiny 2 is similar (and it appears it is from what we've seen), you'll almost always have enough shotgun ammo to handle the enemies that warrant shotgun use. Using a sniper or shotgun on every low to mid tier enemy is extreme overkill when you can kill most of them with one bullet from a primary weapon.

I understand that there is a more efficient way to kill enemies. But what if I don't like how the efficient way plays? What if I want the choice to not play efficiently and still want to have a fun time? That is my point, choice.

Rob Zacny has an article on Waypoint, where he seems to echo my worries about lack of diversity in gameplay choices.

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@zevvion: Come to think of it, you may actually be right about shotguns and sniper rifles having more dps than a rocket launcher. But having more ammo than a rocket launcher does not matter when I will only have around 12 rounds or so (based on the gameplay videos I saw) to play the way I want, and then have to go back to weapons and a playstyle I don't like, while I pray for more ammo drops. I feel like the sniper playstyle can be emulated by using weapons with reach but with less damage per round and controlling your short bursts (I imagine there's more to it than that, but I don't know for sure). Even though SMGs are short range close quarters weapons, they do not emulate a shotgun. They are not a one shot = huge burst of damage, that requires you to put yourself in danger for the huge reward you get.

I know I must sound like a crazy person for harping on this point so much, and I'm sorry if I derailed this thread. But I hate being forced to play games a single way or "the right way" and I needed to discuss it with someone.

At least one of my friends is going to end up buying it so I will problably try it. Hopefully it will feel great on pc and I won't even care about all the shit that I'm complaining about right now.

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@spaceinsomniac: I'm fine with the way they want to treat them in PVP. They seem to be a one hit kill now so they should have a disadvantage like low ammo or whatever. But why can't they just tone their damage down when doing PVE or something, like Dark Souls does with a few of it's rings that have their effects diminished against other players. I just don't get why they want to limit players options to engage in combat against PVE content.

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@spaceinsomniac: I had a couple legendaries and the exotic one that went in the primary slot. I used them with a sidearm and either a machine gun or rocket launcher. Until I got them I used a scout rifle with a shotgun in it's regular slot. Once I learned about the shotguns that can go in the primary slot I stopped caring about anything else besides getting them.

Sometimes I just equipped two shotguns to see if I could make it work but then ammo became a concern.

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@hestilllives19: I agree that we sould wait for a beta of some sort to get a better understanding of the mechanics. From all the gameplay videos I've seen It doesn't look like you can use your power weapons even as secondary. They seem very situational and ammo drop dependant. If that is the case in the final game, there might as well not be any other power weapon than the rocket launchers, cause they will deal the most damage per round than a shotgun and without the short range.

If there aren't any kinetic versions of shotguns, I'm going to end up not buying this game. Beucause it doesn't matter if the shooting feels good if I can't use the weapon I want. The thing I hate the most in games is lack of options.

But I understand we should wait, I'm just very disappointed with what they are doing to my favourite playstyle.

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I hate what they did to shotguns. In every shooter that I play, competitive or not, shotguns are my primary weapons. Now I'll be forced to use either a boring assault rifle or SMG. This is a big turn off.

I know this is not the full picture, but it seems like they were showing how they think the game is supposed to be played. Hopefully we get versions of shotguns and sniper rifles that are not Power Weapons, otherwise they are pretty useless now.

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I've just recently returned to diablo 3 since they started doing seasons and I gotta say, it's pretty fun (I don't do the seasons). I hated how grindy it was, hours of play without a single legendary because I didn't want to use a wizard or a witchdoctor to do the farming. But now, you are practicaly swimming in legendary items (I got 4 different barbarian builds, mixing sets and legendaries) and the cube thingy that let's you equip an item's legendary effect on top of all of your equipment really helps with build variety.

If you don't know where to start with end game stuff I would suggest going to diablofans.com and look up some barbarian builds that might interest you so you at least have an idea of what you are aiming for. The meta is pretty set but there are some fun builds that don't require you to be a hardcore diablo player.

The game is still grindy, all of these games are, but you at least get some reward when you finish a regular or a greater rift. Killing things in this game is still fun.

If you want you can add me and we can play coop until you get comfortable with the new systems.

My name on battle net is Groposo#1703

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I amost never use them. Unless there's a spell that causes some sort of paralysis or hold or something that leaves them vulnerable and/or unable to attack so the rest of my party can just them up.

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It gives me the feeling that maybe he doesn't care anymore.

Like the great Ryan "Papa Bear" Davis once said about Robert De Niro: "Surprise me. By saing no to something."

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You can unlock them for free by giving them the racket and then the whole sector. But you can also buy it later. Don't worry. I was also kinda worried because I don't like being locked out of content in a game. But the only difference is if you get it for free or if you have to pay for it. The only things that get locked out are the upgrades for health, ammo and that stuff.