Xeirus

If you don't have the DLC's, I can't recommend them enough. Sunk 150hrs into that game playing through all of it with my wife, what an unforgettable experience.

@xeirus: Calm down. We get it, you were burned by Destiny, so you want the whole Destiny world to burn. But there is no reason to act like that to Huxleyy with the "English isn't your first language" comment. And let's be honest, the comparisons to WoW aren't as clean cut as your making them out to be either. Yeah, there was definitely a lot more to do in WoW when it launched, but that was a decade ago and nobody makes games like that anymore. You also paid $50 for the base game and $15 a month in a subscription fee, or an extra $180 in that first year. And besides updates in patches, no major content was launched for 2 1/2 years. So you paid essentially between $450-$500 for that content if you played it from launch up until the first expansion. Now lets take a look at Destiny. $60 for the base game, $35 for the expansion pass, so your at $95. That includes everything up until The Taken King. So Year 1 of Destiny is $95 vs. $230. Then you have The Taken King that launched for either $40 for existing players or $60 for all new players. That's Year 2 of Destiny for $40 vs. $180 for WoW, or $60 vs. again $230 for new players of WoW. Destiny just launched with a completely different pricing model than WoW, mostly based off of the fact that subscriptions don't make sense for anyone anymore. This resulted in content dropping more often than WoW and us being charged for each piece of that content.

Now as far as the content of vanilla Destiny goes, I can understand where you are coming from. I disagree that there wasn't a lot of content, there was plenty of content for a $60 game release. But I can understand the sentiment behind that argument because most of that content wasn't of the best quality. The strikes were great and Vault of Glass was the best thing in gaming at that time. I don't think that point is disputed by many. There just wasn't enough of it and it was hidden behind certain barriers that made it hard to access, like finding a group of 5 other players leveled high enough to try and tackle it with you. Destiny also, seemingly by accident, did some pretty great things for coop gaming and social interaction within a console game unlike any console game before it. Something I still don't think Bungie understands because to this day they still haven't expanded on the single best part of the game in better social features within the game. So if you didn't find a group to play VoG with regularly I can certainly understand the gripes leveled at vanilla Destiny. But as of today Destiny isn't even remotely close to that game anymore. The Taken King changed a lot for the better, and it's one of the reasons the Giantbomb Staff just gave it 2015's Old Game of The Year. I would argue that the vast majority of the Destiny player base spent more time in Destiny in 2015 than any other console game.

Isn't that the entire point of the free to play model, to "augment" your free content off of the impulse purchases of others? I don't have a problem with this, as someone who has spent $155 on Destiny (went Digital for Taken King), and who might even buy some of these if the price is right ($0.99, I'm dreaming I know, maybe 1 or 2 at $1.99, but I won't pay more than that). As long as it is just emotes and other cosmetic items such as those Jackolites from last Halloween and maybe Santa Hats that last 30min I don't think it's something to get upset over. Especially if it does in fact allow for the smaller DLC content packs like Dark Below and House of Wolves to be free. Now if that "free" content is a new quest once a month and no more substantial DLC this year, I'll have my pitchfork out with the rest of you guys.

@sweep: Paying a lot of money for redundant content in the first two expansions, is that referencing the reuse of assets and areas for missions in those DLC's or the fact that you had to buy those DLC's with The Taken King as part of the $60 Legendary Edition? I totally understand the gripe if the former, especially with Dark Below's story, but not if it's the later. You basically paid an extra $20 for access to 9-10 Story missions, 3 Strikes, 1 Raid, and a lot of quest chains that tied in directly with the new Taken King story content that go hand in hand with House of Wolves. Something the rest of us paid at least an extra $15-$20 for. Both Dark Below and House of Wolves were pretty directly tied into The Taken King story elements so it makes perfect sense that they would be required content to own.

You're a monster!

@sweep: @xeirus: You could see the upside too. Kotaku is reporting this F2P stuff will finance content releases in between yearly expansions/full games. This will eliminate the requirement to buy DLCs in between releases because it will be free for anyone who owns the most up to date version of the game. So now you will get content for free instead of paying 40 bucks in between 60$ releases. A great idea if the content is there.

Or you know, keep on that popular internet hobby of hating on things without reason or context.

People are just tired of all the complaints about Destiny but the game and everything around it is just as bad as ever. The most soulless and marketingfocused AAA game of all time.

Is it weird/kinda gross to anyone else to have Ryan's attack/defense be the date he died? Just me? Okay I'll shut up