http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/qna/945498.html?qid=29648
You have to play the game twice, getting the good ending both times, beating all the optional bosses and getting every persona, then at a very precise opportunity in the game you have to go in and out of the velvet room twice. What an absolutely fucking ludicrous task.
Just sayin.
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.
What the hell you can fight Margaret?
You do have to beat the optional bosses before the end date, but you absolutely do not have to get every persona. That would be...eh. From a certain point of view, you do have to go to the velvet room twice, but that entails going before the gas station thing and going again, the first time you get the note to the challenge (this is how I remember it, anyway). To sum it up:
Max her social link
Defeat the optional bosses
Get True Ending twice
Talk to Igor in the vevlet room before the gas station incident
Compared to othe SMT games, this isn't very difficult. Stil difficult, but not impossible.
EDIT: I would like to note that maxing her social link the second time through isn't really hard if you registered the personas you used the first time, like I failed to do.
So what happens when you do? I mean, what is the point? I'm not down playing the significance, I am just wondering, if I was going to go through this, what is the pay off to make it worth my time?
" So what happens when you do? I mean, what is the point? I'm not down playing the significance, I am just wondering, if I was going to go through this, what is the pay off to make it worth my time? "Gratification for completing a difficult challenge. What do you want? Achievement points? :P
" @PenguinDust: No real point. SMT games are noted for having extremely time consuming end game bosses, with the optional ones being even harder. In SMT: Digital Devil Saga, you have a chance to fight the HitoShura, aka the main character from SMT 3: Noctune. He takes about 45 minutes to kill. "Please help spare my sanity and call him the Demi-Fiend. There is absolutely no reason not to.
" @fRAWRst: The only hell will be the hell you'll have to pay for shit-staining the one series that still keeps me interesting in gaming. "Demifiend sounds stupid as hell to me. Im not here to start a fight, im a fan of SMT too. I hope not everyone here at giant bomb is as tightly wound as you.
" Demifiend sounds stupid as hell to me. Im not here to start a fight, im a fan of SMT too. I hope not everyone here at giant bomb is as tightly wound as you. "I'm not tightly wound, I just prefer to use English when communicating on English-based forums. I'm sorry the term Demi-Fiend isn't wapanese enough for you.
But that's the end of the insults. I'm sorry for getting so mad over something that's admittedly really stupid, but there's nothing more anal to me than fans that insist on going against the grain and using whatever the Japanese term for something is. It muddles communication, makes you look like an ass, and seems exclusionary to the others who don't use it.
The only thing more stupid is Atlus secret bosses. Seriously, fuck those things.
She challenges the MC to a battle, so she can hopefully find out what was going through her sister's mind when Elizabeth left the Velvet Room. You need to complete P3 to really get it, but it is a nice little easter egg for those that did.
" @Turambar said:I only got the normal ending the first play through, and on my second play through was able to fight her. So, no, you don't." @Red: You don't need to have gotten the True Ending the first time. "Yeah. I'm pretty sure you do. "
Wow, so much clashing information here.
So let me get it straight. On the second playthrough, after you go in for the orb you go in again?
... Too bad I'm already at the boss on my 2nd. Gotta save something for the third I guess. Good thing there's a triangle button... Guuuuuuuuh.
Okay, here it is, copied from this source: Click Here
Here is what you have to do (True Ending Spoiler):
- Obtained True Ending on the first playthrough
- 2nd cycle or later
- Empress social link maxed before finishing Magatsu Inaba dungeon
- The secondary bosses of all the dungeons are defeated before finishing Magatsu Inaba dungeon
- On 3/20,once you followed the True Ending path and faced Izanami, you MUST enter the Velvet Room EDIT: Sorry, looks like I somehow erased the later part of this, but you have to enter the room BEFORE you enter the tv
I posted the videos of the fight in the "Endurance Run the Aftermath" thread, but I guess not everyone has watched the endurance run(crazy i know). The videos are easy enough to find on youtube though. If you don't have some really well-made persona, this fight can take a long time and be pretty annoying. But with the right preparation and patient fusing, you can make it much easier. Which makes some of the more tedious fuses actually worth something at the end of the game.
I remember trying to take the cheap way out making a Tri-auto Norn, and it took over 30 minutes of re-rolling it to get repel elec and all 3 autos. Luckily Igor didn't screw me when it finally came up.
Some other cool fuses:
http://persona4.wikidot.com/recipe
@PureRok:
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That is a source I used heavily and has been cross-referenced many times. It is 100% accurate and verified.
Here is another stating the same thing:
Click Here
" Elizabeth was a thousand years ahead of her. Main character only Second playthrough If you used ANY persona with ANY immunity, she would one shot you. Have fun at dinner. "Yeah. Persona 3 was a more difficult game overall, and not just because you couldn't control your party members.
" @Fallen189 said:Not really relevant but whatever: I think you played The Answer in P3 FES. Would you consider The Answer to be difficult, or just troublesome? Apart from the bosses, it was rather just grind festy. But I gotta say, I died a lot against most of those bosses, mainly because of their "evade their weakness" crap." Elizabeth was a thousand years ahead of her. Main character only Second playthrough If you used ANY persona with ANY immunity, she would one shot you. Have fun at dinner. "Yeah. Persona 3 was a more difficult game overall, and not just because you couldn't control your party members. "
" @FluxWaveZ: I'd call The Answer difficult. I played through Persona 3 on Normal Difficulty and had no experience with Hard, which is what The Answer is locked in at. It requires a lot of grinding to be sure, but even with grinding and fusing, it is significantly more challenging than any portion of The Journey or any portion of Persona 4. "Yeah, I had played Persona 3 on Normal difficulty when I had started so I also had no experience with the difficulty set on Hard. To tell you the truth, most of my memories about The Answer, excluding plot moments, is a little hazy because it was so damn long I listened to podcasts while grinding. But yeah, now that I think about it maybe most of my frustration was in part due to the difficulty of the whole thing. Even fusing was hard because there was no Compendium... Yeah, I guess it was rather hard. Except for the fights against your teammates: I'm pretty sure all except for one of those was rather too easy for what you were supposed to be facing.
" @Hailinel said:I never even got to the fights with the other team members. I put the game away after getting to beaten down by it and found out about those battles after the fact. I was just like "Wait, what?" about it because it seemed like they were trying too hard to hammer animosity and factioning into the group." @FluxWaveZ: I'd call The Answer difficult. I played through Persona 3 on Normal Difficulty and had no experience with Hard, which is what The Answer is locked in at. It requires a lot of grinding to be sure, but even with grinding and fusing, it is significantly more challenging than any portion of The Journey or any portion of Persona 4. "Yeah, I had played Persona 3 on Normal difficulty when I had started so I also had no experience with the difficulty set on Hard. To tell you the truth, most of my memories about The Answer, excluding plot moments, is a little hazy because it was so damn long I listened to podcasts while grinding. But yeah, now that I think about it maybe most of my frustration was in part due to the difficulty of the whole thing. Even fusing was hard because there was no Compendium... Yeah, I guess it was rather hard. Except for the fights against your teammates: I'm pretty sure all except for one of those was rather too easy for what you were supposed to be facing. "
On the opposite end there was Junpei. I really hated his behavior towards the leader (and his attitude in general oftentimes). In The Answer, it was like he was the one who was actually the smartest in that situation and really made it seem like he would have made a better leader than anyone else there.
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