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8-4 Play: 08/30/2013

We're off to PAX and a special sumthin' sumthin' -- but first, more on the Wonderful 101, Killer is Dead, Divekick, the 2DS announcement, PS4 and XBONE launch comparison, Gamescom news (and fresh rumors), and more!

Every other week, tune into 8-4 Play for talk about video games, Japan, and Japanese video games, straight from the 8-4 offices in beautiful downtown Tokyo. Hosted by 1UP Japan's own Mark MacDonald, John Ricciardi, and Hiroko Minamoto.

Aug. 30 2013

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See, this is what I don't understand. You're a Giant Bomb user. You should understand the passion and creative vision and love that has gone into Disney Infinity more than any other user on any other gaming site. Johnny V coming on here so often... That dude clearly loves his job, loves Disney Infinity, made it sound like his life's work.

And then you have a few cynical guys in Japan who've never touched it themselves, just heard about it on another podcast, and they're declaring it "dogshit." That's just disrespectful. Then they start harping on stuff they are just factually incorrect about, like how Divekick works and the launch lineups.

Like I said, I usually like 8-4 Play and Mark a lot and I know they can be cynical. Sometimes it's fun. But I like when they're cynical about something they've played and know about and have reason to be cynical about.

and here's what I don't understand. You're either saying Johnny V should be given 'special treatment' because he shows on the site frequently, or you're saying that only Johnny V considers it his life's work. Do you think the Dynasty Warriors developers just slap those games out and don't give a fuck? I bet you there's tons of people who consider it their life's work, I bet there's people like that over there. I bet the same could be said for Nights, the WWE games, Duke Nukem Forever, only for Jeff to say they're 'total garbage.' Regardless of the quality of video, they clearly love their job so Jeff shoudln't be able to say that right?

But no, give Mark shit about being cynical and then go tell Jeff 'sick burn brah' when he trashes whatever the next game he deems shit is that he played for 5 minutes. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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@dragonzord: Mark and some of the people here that are trashing it are trying to make it seem like it was a game specifically designed to milk money out of parents, is totally insidious through and through, and there's nothing redeeming about the game. It is a shit product. I was simply using Johnny as an example that a lot of the people behind it actually did care pretty deeply about that game and it did have creative vision, and I would assume that Giant Bomb users would understand that. That's the only reason I brought his name up.

I'm also not saying that nobody is allowed to shit on the game if it actually does suck. Honestly, this is the first time I've ever heard people really calling it bad. Every other article I've read has called it actually pretty fun and enjoyable to play with kids, even if it's also super expensive. If the game sucks, that's fine, call it out, and if Mark plays it and thinks it sucks, well, that's fine too. But he hasn't.

Jeff actually played Duke Nukem Forever. That's why it's fun to hear him shit on it. Because he earned the right to shit on it. He suffered through it. If he hadn't, that'd be shitty too. If Mark actually plays Disney Infinity before next week's podcast and then gets on and declares it "tepid" and "dogshit" again but can actually back those words up with an informed opinion, then that's great and I'm more than willing to hear it.

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@whatisdelicious: Yeah, I guess you're right. Maybe I'm just to enthusiastic for what these actually are. Appreciate the comment, tx

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@whatisdelicious: Yeah, I guess you're right. Maybe I'm just to enthusiastic for what these actually are. Appreciate the comment, tx

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The truth is I agree with Mark with the fact that I don't care a bit for Infinity (at least until I can buy an X-51 figure) or Skylanders but as soon as Nintendo does this with Pokemon I am so there.

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What a shitty episode this week guys

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Oh, so that's what you were talking about.

Backed, done, $60.84.

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You don't have to hold "select" while going into menus in divekick. It's just the two buttons.

Yeah, he must be smoking some of that Rising Sun ganja.

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Knack = Nintendogs? Gooby pls.

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Well, now I actually know what JJ and Hiroko look like. That's pretty exciting.

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Mighty No. 9! I'm a backer and can't wait to see how it's fleshed out. I'm not going to shit on Disney Infinity, but I don't care for it, it's not for me. The 8-4 sounded harsh before even playing it, but at least they gave their reasons why the game looks like "dog shit." Like the GB crew, the 8-4 have been around long enough to see through the BS and call them out on it.