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Is this the end of the Ginyu Force???? Already? Dan and Jeff break down episodes 32-36 of Dragon Ball Z Kai.

Anime experts Dan Ryckert and Jeff Gerstmann embark on a quest to watch every episode of Dragon Ball Z Kai.

Mar. 26 2018

Posted by: Jeff

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@zentheninja said:

@onemanarmyy: I wonder how many people are aware that Dragon Ball was supposed to end on Namek but due to popularity and Akita Toriyama being given tons of money to keep doing it they kept the series going. If you think about it the series ending here would’ve made sense.

About the same amount of people who will believe things without doing any fact checking.

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In fairness I believed that when I was younger too.

All things considered, the Frieza saga would've been a good end point because it neatly ties up all of the new space elements introduced with the arrival of Raditz (and all the retcons about Goku and Piccolo's history). Then they just come back to Earth and I always felt that all subsequent saga were kinda dumb bullshit that was filling time. They bring back Frieza for all of 3 seconds, then the Android Saga is one of the weakest sagas in the whole series and they're really unimpressive villains compared to Frieza, intergalactic world conqueror. Cell is a decent arc and he's actually a pretty solid villain, but then everything after Cell's death is just kinda dumb.

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@gaatz said:

Cell saga is the epitome of stretching things out due to idiot plots.

Sounds like you don't remember the mind-numbing pacing of the Buu Saga. There's only like 3 interesting things that happen in the two dozen episodes (of Kai, mind you, the pacing in the Freeza and Cell Sagas are vastly improved in Kai while the pacing of the Buu Saga is still a mess) between Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion and Super Buu's Human Extinction Attack.

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can't believe they no-sold the dragon being a giant super buff frog monster with namekian antennae

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This batch of episodes were the first ones that felt draggy to me since I started watching along and I’m sorry to report that it only gets worse through the next couple of batches. I have a feeling that Jeff isn’t going to enjoy these few as much as he had been. A bunch of cool stuff sure does happen though.

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@moonwalksa: Oh. My. God.

If someone drew The Rat Pack in the Ginyu poses...

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I could definitely go for some Frizza right now.

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Holy hell Dan and Jeff have found a way to watch this show that every week ends on a killer cliff hanger. Last week Frieza shows up, this week Goku gets out of the chamber.

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I know it's a joke, but the Freetza thing is killing me.

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That's right boys...

...Mondo Cool

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Wait did Jeff say "Stands" not Personas?

I remember the comments of a JoJo's game being veeery salty that they hadn't seen this then obscure anime OVA from the 90s and didn't know Stands came first etc.

Also they've explicitly said they've zero intention of watching JoJo's after the dirge of anime fans gave a tidal wave of unsolicited recommendations.

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Jeff breaking character saying Frietza and Frieza 49. Minutes

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@k9: Wait, when did that dub come about? The version I remember from TV was like this

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@xel: This is from the Kai dub on the blu-rays I have:

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@hakunin said:

@miceman64: I bet you're a riot at parties. NO FUN ALLOWED, just according to keikaku (Translator's note: keikaku means plan)

I'm all about that fun (That's why i love DB) I just despise the Original DBZ Funimation dub. It's a complete travesty.

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Dan is a jerk

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@miceman64: I'm just funnin' with you :)

Can't comment on the rest of that particular dub, since I haven't seen it, it may just be awful as you say. But faithful to the original Japanese lines or not, that dumb line is just...well...Mondo Cool in my opinion.

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Undershirt.

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Every time Ginyu has swapped bodies, he yells "change now."

He can't talk as a frog, so he's stuck like that forever.

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@borklund said:

Dan is 100% going to pronounce Cell as T'sell

And he's going to No-T'Sell it.

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@hornet: In Dragonball Super he returns and swaps with Tagoma, and is then killed by Vegeta.

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Best frog-toss ever

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The first time I heard Vegeta’s voice I knew that Jeff would be able to do a spot-on impression

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Giant Beetza

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@robothamster:

@thesl said:

Re: Return of Captain Ginyu

Dragon Ball Super does a thing where the frog comes back and steals another guy's body to team up with Frieza again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbH5olPgY6A

He steals Bulma's body in Kai and shows up during the Freiza fight as well, or has that already been mentioned?

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@njn said:

@robothamster:

@thesl said:

Re: Return of Captain Ginyu

Dragon Ball Super does a thing where the frog comes back and steals another guy's body to team up with Frieza again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbH5olPgY6A

He steals Bulma's body in Kai and shows up during the Freiza fight as well, or has that already been mentioned?

Or maybe nobody has because it's a spoiler from the very near future.

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@cptpanda29: Almost certainly because of the Dreamcast fighter.

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@rujasu: The series aired like 20 years ago. People that don't want spoilers are smart enough to not read these comments and Jeff and Dan are certainly not wading into this toxic waste dump of anime pedantry.

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@cptpanda29:I caught that too. They are 100% trolling the anime fans in the audience.

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@sevith: You're right, I don't remember the Buu saga :>. The Buu stuff is where I tapped out, and I didn't actually know that the series ended there until years later. I figured it just went on forever.

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@njn said:

@rujasu: The series aired like 20 years ago. People that don't want spoilers are smart enough to not read these comments and Jeff and Dan are certainly not wading into this toxic waste dump of anime pedantry.

Except they've they've referenced the comments and posted in them themselves...

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I haven't noticed them post in the comments, and their references to the comments are mostly "hey those comments sure are full of nonsense that we aren't going to engage with" but whatever dude, my bad. Pretty sure the comments on this series have so far been absolutely loaded with spoilers about things that matter more than a 45-second B plot so I'm really not sure what the big deal is here.

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freed-tza......

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I don't like wrestling, but I love them describing DBZ in wrestling terms/concepts.

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Let's go all the way no more half-turding it. Will Go-keh be able to save his friends Kreel-en and Pack-a-low from the evil Fritza? Will Vijita secretly steal Go-honk to try and convince him to join his side?

At this point they're tossing grenades at the trolls who kept telling them how to watch the show by mis-pronouncing Freeza. Innocents are already in the cross-fire might as well make it a rocket launcher.

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Time to get the Vegetans out of the Freiza.

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@hakunin said:
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Obligatory "Why did they change this for Kai?!"

Wow this clip just makes me feel...I mean, I get so many conflicting emotions about the dub and...YES! YES! I FEEL GREAT! I CAN WIN! I! CAN! DO! THIS!

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Oh...they hope it's only going to be 10 more episodes AT MOST before things jump off...oh...

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So Dan likes the silly stuff and the screaming while powering up. That's literally everything Kai cuts out.

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Dan’s inability to say Freeza makes me sad.