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Giant Bombcast 09-08-2009

We look back at some of our personal highlights from PAX09, discuss the relative merits of The Beatles: Rock Band and Guitar Hero 5, and warn of the perils of playing Doom on a plane, and much more in this week's edition of the Giant Bombcast.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Sep. 8 2009

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Trying to sell the beta key? Wow, fuck that guy.

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Half beard, we salute you for being the non-asshole winner, whoever you are! Oliver, you bring shame on us all. There is no redeeming you :(.
 
Also @Supermarius : God yes, Rockband: Queen. I'm sick of rhythm games and I'd still play that on day one.

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@quirkwood: Not sure I was born at the time of this picture so maybe he wasn't older because I didn't exist.
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to the Dickhead who tryed to sell his code...... you are a Asshole!
Dam im so vex at this. we should do something! as do we rely need users like this?
lets spam his inbox, or a....... any ides?

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Downloading now!

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aaah the time for bombcast where u just sit back play a game with no sound and relax  
 
 
awesome 
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I'd go to a Conventional Pizza.

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@MattyFTM said:
" Where's the huge Freespace 1 + 2 Bombcast Dave promised us? "
This.
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just came from skool and about to listen.....1 day late but its okay

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@MattyFTM said:
" Where's the huge Freespace 1 + 2 Bombcast Dave promised us? "
My reign was short.
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I particularly enjoyed the rythm game discussion on this edition of the Bombcast, but it was an all-around good show - just like I've come to expect from you guys!

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What about Elvis? That would be a bad ass Rock Band game IMO.

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@Meltbrain said:
" @Dany said:
" Half beard. :( Why would you do that? "
No, half-beard came second. They wanted him to write in so they could get HIM the beta, so Oliver is getting shut down for being a jerk.  Disappointing stuff, really. Glad to know that his dumbass actions were the only blemish on the panel, though. Can't wait for the rest of it to go up on the site!  Awesome Bombcast. "
Damn, i was gunna say that!
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yeah the guy probably should have waited before trying to pawn the key but I don't have any problem with him selling it. what if he didn't have a gaming pc? what if he doesn't like starcraft and hadn't signed up for the conest if he knew the prize? Instead of just wasting it why not try to sell it to someone who wants it?  
 
it also bothers me when people who give gifts get mad at with someone does with their gift. when a person gets a gift they should be grateful but usually the point of the gift is to make the receiver happy  and the gifter should be cool with whatever the receiver does because the receiver shouldn't owe anything to the gifter. kinda defeats the point 
 
but i do kinda want that guy with the badass half-beard to win
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Jeff is right! Cash is dirty. I never carry cash. Very few places require cash these days anyway at least where I live. It's 2009. Cash is so last millennium.

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Great podcast!

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I dont like the Beatles. A Zeppelin game would be awesome and sell way better that the GB crew thinks it would.

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Hope everyone gets over the swine flu or whatever sickness you got at PAX.

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@Piffman2 said:
" yeah the guy probably should have waited before trying to pawn the key but I have any problem with him selling it. what if he didn't have a gaming pc? what if he doesn't like starcraft and hadn't signed up for the conest if he knew the prize? Instead of just wasting it why not try to sell it to someone who wants it?   it also bothers me when people who give gifts get mad at with someone does with their gift. when a person gets a gift they should be grateful but usually the point of the gift is to make the receiver happy  and the gifter should be cool with whatever the receiver does because the receiver shouldn't owe anything to the gifter. kinda defeats the point  but i do kinda want that guy with the badass half-beard to win "
Yeah its like if you win a TV/car/computer in a raffle some people like selling that stuff beacue they don't need it or rather they need the money for something else far more important. While everyone is flaming the guy maybe he is unemployed or he needs the money to save for something else (house, etc.) Or maybe its something completely selfish, bu then again its his fucking thing and he can do whatever he wants with it.
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No Doors?  Are you guys on crack?  Talk about a game that would sell itself.

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Go half-beard! I hope it becomes the new fashion!

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@chililili said:

" @Piffman2 said:

" yeah the guy probably should have waited before trying to pawn the key but I have any problem with him selling it. what if he didn't have a gaming pc? what if he doesn't like starcraft and hadn't signed up for the conest if he knew the prize? Instead of just wasting it why not try to sell it to someone who wants it?   it also bothers me when people who give gifts get mad at with someone does with their gift. when a person gets a gift they should be grateful but usually the point of the gift is to make the receiver happy  and the gifter should be cool with whatever the receiver does because the receiver shouldn't owe anything to the gifter. kinda defeats the point  but i do kinda want that guy with the badass half-beard to win "
Yeah its like if you win a TV/car/computer in a raffle some people like selling that stuff beacue they don't need it or rather they need the money for something else far more important. While everyone is flaming the guy maybe he is unemployed or he needs the money to save for something else (house, etc.) Or maybe its something completely selfish, bu then again its his fucking thing and he can do whatever he wants with it. "
Except a raffle or such is pure chance, and not a competition set up by a small, close-knit group of people to reward a select few members of the audience, like the Beef Bowl Challenge was.
 
Yes, people are entitled to do what they want with what is theirs, but if you win something, don't just turn around and sell it at the same event, that's just stupid and acts as a slap in the face to the people who set up the competition.
 
I'm reminded of a WoW comic (pretty sure it was one done by the Penny Arcade guys, oddly enough) where a person receives a quest reward and disenchants it in front of the quest-giver much to the quest-giver's horror. Sure it's something we all do in games, but in reality, you'd probably get punched in the face if you did something like that, regardless of whether or not you have the "right" to do so since it is now your property.
 
Decency goes a long way to earn respect. The winner of this competition has lost a lot of respect from many users of the community because of a lack of such. Sure, it's his right to do what he wants with his stuff, but his actions showed him as a selfish moron who tried to make some quick cash off of an event done for the fans.
 
Call me crazy, but if I didn't have a gaming computer or didn't enjoy Starcraft, I would have told the GB staff to give the prize to the runner up as I wouldn't have had a use for it. But hey, maybe he was unemployed and needed the money, but then.. why the fuck is he at PAX?
 
Edit: I can't spell :(
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Whoa, hating on The Doors? Sorry their music isn't all synthesized drum lines with someone rhyming over it.

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@Swinghi said:

" No Doors?  Are you guys on crack?  Talk about a game that would sell itself. "

to the white collar private school girls who write poetry maybe.
 
I agree with the guys - there's no band who's career has undergone so many changes in such a short time like The Beatles. Sure, you could make a game around The Stones or Led Zep', but they never really changed too dramatically in comparison to a band like The Beatles. That's not to say that I think The Beatles are necessarily a better band than the Stones or LZ, because I love both of them too, but when you're making a game like this, you need something that has massive world-wide appeal, and I don't think either band have the same reach as The Beatles. Find an average person on the street who isn't a big fan of either the Stones, the Doors or LZ, and I'd be willing to bet you that they'd struggle to name more than 3 songs by each band
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" Im not sick but im not well "

"and i'm so hot cause i'm in hell"
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Lol, That Oliver ass is lucky he didnt give his acc name (if he has one) or you know everyone would spam him. 

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@snide said:
" @MattyFTM said:
" Where's the huge Freespace 1 + 2 Bombcast Dave promised us? "
My reign was short. "
You're just going to give up like that?!  You shame us all, Dave.
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@MasturbatingBear said:
" Lol, That Oliver ass is lucky he didnt give his acc name (if he has one) or you know everyone would spam him.  "
But that would violate the DPA. I'm actually quite shocked that they called him out like that, it's out of order.
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@Fallen189:
well they kind of have a right too. I mean these are their userbase kinda giving the finger to their friend, who gave a very generous present.
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Diablo is spanish for devil. 
 
French is Diable

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@SgtReznor: You're right, music that's just a bunch of cheap power chords stringed together so dudes can feel tough while they listen to it is way better. The Beatles's catalogue wasn't the most manly shit either, if you haven't noticed. Most of it was pop that appealed to highschool girls, hence the references to an overwhelming majority of screaming girls at their concerts.
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Mini Ninjas
Minges
Vaginas
 
I lol'd

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Btw, if this hasn't been mentioned, beta keys are kept under strict control so if the beta gets leaked Blizzard knows everyone who had a key and who to hold responsible. If that guy goes off and sells a beta key they lose the ability to track down anyone that uses it for illegal purposes. Not to mention he was effectively attempting to make money off of Blizzard's beta process which I'm sure violates their TOS.

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@EndlessMike said:

" @SgtReznor: You're right, music that's just a bunch of cheap power chords stringed together so dudes can feel tough while they listen to it is way better. The Beatles's catalogue wasn't the most manly shit either, if you haven't noticed. Most of it was pop that appealed to highschool girls, hence the references to an overwhelming majority of screaming girls at their concerts. "

I'm not saying either way that one band is better or "manlier" than the other (I dunno where you got that from), what I'm saying is that The Beatles have more of a wide appeal. You couldn't say that a Stones, LZ or a Doors game would outsell The Beatles Rock Band - hell, you could add up all three sales, and I bet you they won't outsell the number of TBRB titles. 
 
Like I said, this isn't a "one band is better than the other",  I'm purely talking about it's sales potential
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" to the white collar private school girls who write poetry maybe"
 
If that isn't calling a band girly then I don't know what is.

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If I ever see "Oliver" I will deck that punk in the face. I mean, what a retard! you didn't have the beta key yet you idiot! I live in Portland oliver so come on down, I'll give you a "beta" key!
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So I guess Oliver is the Michael Vick of Giantbomb now. Grats to half-beard!

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Hope everyone out in 'Castland is not sick with the flu!
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Bombcast!!! Awesome.

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Im not angry at Oliver for trying to sell his key, Im just angry at how stupid he was going about it.

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 I was really wishing some one would mention Pink Floyd in the Rock Band talk I think that game would lend itself well to a Beetle Rock Band treatment. They have such a  wide variety of music and an evolution of their music overtime that it would be very interesting to play through it not the mention the visuals that could go along with the music. Also just the sound quality of, say, Dark Side of the Moon (1973) is just still better than recently released music. That being said Pink Floyd and its members are not as iconic as The Beetles but I don't think that would take away from their stage presence. 
And come on Comfortably Numb on guitar, think about it

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There are in fact plenty of Erics up here in Canada.

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Damn Oliver. You are a fucking douchebag. At least wait til you actually have the beta key before you try to sell it. How stupid can you be?

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did i hear a reference to Massapequa Long Island in this bombcast?????   my hometown is pretty popular
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First person to find out what Oliver's Giant Bomb account name is wins 6 internets.

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@Kajaah117: im assuming he won't post anything for a while, till this all cools down, but hey, i'll throw in a cookie for said person who finds oliver.
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Hmm... I'm interested to see if that death promise comes true.  Only time will tell.

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this cast is asploding!

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Oliver even looks like a douche (see video)