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Quick Look: Dragon's Crown

Brad, Vinny, and a side of PB&J squeeze into costumes CLEARLY best suited for hacking and slashing.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Aug. 5 2013

Cast: Brad, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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Dragon's Crown

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I hate morning practice

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Oh boy...

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Where's Muramasa 2 at

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nice

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I've been eagerly waiting for a QL of this game!

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The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

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Interesting to get the GB guys' take on this whole thing.

I wonder how many blogs will tell them they are evil people.

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Bounce bounce bounce!

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@neckbear said:

Can't wait to hear Brad whine incessantly about this game's artstyle and some other bullishit while completely downplaying the actual game part.

Yeah...nothing of that happens. Good on you for whining without watching the QL though,

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@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best beat em up ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

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If they drop the Vita price at Gamescom, this will be my first purchase.

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bad concept art: the game

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The art style in general is pretty good, but it's a shame they decided to give women giant breasts for no reason. It's worse than mainstream comic book art, and that's saying something.

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@neckbear said:

Can't wait to hear Brad whine incessantly about this game's artstyle and some other bullishit while completely downplaying the actual game part.

Yeah, it's going to almost be as bad as the weird defense force for incredibly dumb artistic choices in an otherwise fantastic looking game.

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@neckbear said:

Can't wait to hear Brad whine incessantly about this game's artstyle and some other bullishit while completely downplaying the actual game part.

see id be right alongside you bitching about brad bitching about a game.

but he's actually playing it cool and just more laughing about it in a good way. as the artsyle is pretty deliberately ridiculous.

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@atwa said:

@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best beat em up's ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

You're absolutely correct, blatant over-sexualization NEVER got called out before twitter. It's why everyone loves and respects all comic book art ever.

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I'm not personally offended by this game's artstyle, but it's the type of game I'd feel embarrassed to be playing in a woman's presence. It certainly won't stop me from picking this up after a price drop. Beat 'em ups stopped being interesting to me in the 90's, but the loot system appeals to me. Loot makes all games better.

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@atwa said:

@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best hack and slash ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

Yeah, because depicting women as proportionally correct is the latest social media fad...

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I've got to say, I love the idea of GiantBomb people grabbing Gamespot writers and asking them to join them on the "Dark Side"...

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@cammy said:

@atwa said:

@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best hack and slash ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

Yeah, because depicting women as proportionally correct is the latest social media fad...

Like everyone you seem to completely IGNORE the male cast, have you seen the dwarf and the fighter? How are they proportionally correct?

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@cammy said:

@atwa said:

@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best hack and slash ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

Yeah, because depicting women as proportionally correct is the latest social media fad...

Er, I didn't know having big tits was proportionally incorrect.... Or for that matter that anybody had an obligation to depict humans proportionally correctly.

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Hi Peter.

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I dislike brawlers but I'm really digging this artstyle.

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This looks kinda fun.

I also still don't see why people complained so much about the art in this game.

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A little awkwardness aside, I thought it was cool to have a gamespot duder in a quicklook.

And surprise, everyone talking about the art style and not the game in general. Nice to learn the game is not a straight hack and slasher but more like a Diablo style game, and that the game is still good while in single player. Still not for me but surprise in how good the reviews are.

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@columnbreaker: people today tend to be outraged by everything. This is just another example of that, one that only a few vocal groups on the Internet really care about. I'm buying this tomorrow and showed my wife the character designs and she just laughed and said it looked stupid, which is kind of the point.

There's a new push for the whole women and feminism in video games which really has no place when you consider the vast majority of people that play games like this are men. Don't get me wrong, if a game demeans women, that's a bad thing, but in this circumstance it's not demeaning women, it's just dumb.

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@neckbear said:

Can't wait to hear Brad whine incessantly about this game's artstyle and some other bullishit while completely downplaying the actual game part.

you're an idiot.

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it's true no one really has the right to tell you what offends you but on the flip side no one has the right to not be offended everyone is offended by something and the world keeps turning.

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I don't like the art. At all. But then again, I don't like brawlers either, so I guess this is not a game for me.

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@columnbreaker: people today tend to be outraged by everything. This is just another example of that, one that only a few vocal groups on the Internet really care about. I'm buying this tomorrow and showed my wife the character designs and she just laughed and said it looked stupid, which is kind of the point.

There's a new push for the whole women and feminism in video games which really has no place when you consider the vast majority of people that play games like this are men. Don't get me wrong, if a game demeans women, that's a bad thing, but in this circumstance it's not demeaning women, it's just dumb.

What?

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@horseman6: I showed my fiance this as well and she was pretty disturbed by the depiction of women but otherwise loved everything else about it. It's not as simple as your small circle of experience/opinions nor mine, I'd love to play this game but I really cannot abide the poor choices. I'm all for stupid, this is stupid, but leans more on the offensive end of stupidity then the fun end for me.

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Anyways, I think this game looks really cool. Some of the art may be a bit awkward (I'm thinking more of the woman just spreading her legs right up in your face than the proportions), but I love loot games like this one. Gonna pick it up for sure after I've finished TLoU.

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it's true no one really has the right to tell you what offends you but on the flip side no one has the right to not be offended everyone is offended by something and the world keeps turning.

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@atwa said:

@cammy said:

@atwa said:

@elementsoftony said:

The fact the of the matter is that it doesn't need the artstyle, and would probably be more well recieved without it. I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top.

Whatever, the game looks INCREDIBLE. You are discounting the entire look because of a few, few stylistic choices. Its overall one of the greatest looking 2D games out there, and probably the best hack and slash ever made.. but gets unnecessary hate for arbitrary reasons that are only brought up because the latest fad in social media.

Yeah, because depicting women as proportionally correct is the latest social media fad...

Like everyone you seem to completely IGNORE the male cast, have you seen the dwarf and the fighter? How are they proportionally correct?

The dwarf's design exaggerates the features that make him a dwarf. The fighter's design exaggerates the features that make him a fighter. The witch's design exaggerates tits. The amazon's design exaggerates ass. Do you see the difference?

Really I'm less offended and more disappointed by juvenile, lazy design choices.

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@neckbear said:

Can't wait to hear Brad whine incessantly about this game's artstyle and some other bullishit while completely downplaying the actual game part.

Didn't he like Dust? And whining about sexism is more of a Patrick thing

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i think that one with the knight spreading her legs is a bit much.

but im still down to play the game though,

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@dreamtheateropeth: Yeah! Fuck any sort of discourse in games. Where does that get anyone?

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I've been waiting for this. I'm not reading any comments until I see what they say in the video.

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wow, talk about phoning it in

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@atwa: You might want to read my post again, I specifically "I don't discount the games merits and probably will buy the game; but that doesn't mean that the art isn't unnecessarily over the top". I am sure the game is good but they have taken away the focus on the fact that its a good game by drawing it in a way that does nothing positive for it.

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Hey another stupid comment thread about Dragon's Crown; QL seems fine just wish it was funnier; lack of Jeff hurts.

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@columnbreaker: I don't think it's a defense force as much as a specific section of the population that just doesn't care that much and can't understand why others do.

I'm not saying you shouldn't care, obviously you do, and there is nothing wrong with that. Personally though I just don't - the art style does not grab me one way or the other. She has huge breasts, oh well, the knight looks ridiculous as well.

If women find this depiction of female characters incredibly offensive and sexist then that's their right to do so and they can choose not to buy the game. While I won't defend the art style itself because that's purely subjective for everyone, I will always defend a developers freedom in choosing it. Never should any developer feel pressured to change any aspect of their work simply because some people might not like it.

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We should not try to differentiate everything.

We should make everything as close to reality as possible.

Trying to look normal is the only option you should have.

Don't try to be different.

- Video Game Community

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@kjebka said:
@atwa said:

Like everyone you seem to completely IGNORE the male cast, have you seen the dwarf and the fighter? How are they proportionally correct?

The dwarf's design exaggerates the features that make him a dwarf. The fighter's design exaggerates the features that make him a fighter. The witch's design exaggerates tits. The amazon's design exaggerates ass. Do you see the difference?

Really I'm less offended and more disappointed by juvenile, lazy design choices.

Wait, what?
MASSIVE MUSCLES on every fiber of his being is the characteristics of a dwarf? The shoulder width that puts any bodybuilder to shame on the fighter is exaggerated but somehow fine because of the archetype?
The Amazon is incredibly well defined with abs and massive well trained legs. The reason she has little clothing is because that is how Amazons always are depicted.

The art is clearly exaggerating something about every character, its all crazy and shouldn't be taken so seriously.

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@humanity: I don't particularly disagree with anything you've said.

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This game's art looks fantastic. I'd pick this up if I wasn't strapped for cash at the moment.

Everyone mentions the sorceress's boobs or the amazon's ass but what really gets me are the archer's thighs. HNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnng.