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Quick Look: The Conduit

Jeff and Ryan take a look at High Voltage Software's ambitious Wii FPS.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Jun. 25 2009

Cast: Jeff, Ryan

Posted by: Drew

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The Conduit

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@supercubedude said:
" @Ineedaname said:
" This doesn't look so good =/Kinda like black with aliens. "
To the letter what I was thinking. Everything about the game screams FIVE YEARS AGO, from the bland, uninteractive environments to the dunderheaded enemy behavior to the explosive barrels EVERYWHERE. Seriously, where in the fuck did all of those barrels come from? Did they conclude the shooting was too crap to be useful so they blanketed the game with explosive barrels and grenades? "
What you don't take an explosive barrel with you as hand luggage?
Dude you're crazy.
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@Death_Burnout said:
" @nofx4208: You're right.On top of that, Jeff just makes me mad. I worry for their intelligence! "
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive
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Looks pretty good to me.

Aliens need shooting, and Mr. Ford is just the ex-President for the job.

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So what is so great about this game? Maybe it looks good alongside a lot of third party Wii games, but the visuals still don't compete with Galaxy or Brawl. I don't really think it looks better than Metroid either, and Corruption had better controls by the looks of things (and  it definitely had a better art style). I'm not seeing what the fuss is over The Conduit, especially if you have a 360, PC, or PS3. But even alongside other Wii titles I'm not impressed, especially in terms of gameplay.

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I still called this when I first saw it announced, I knew it was going to be nothing more than a generic FPS. Problem is is that if it doesn't even have decent controls (or you need to spend a fucking hour configuring them, which will turn away a lot of players) than that really sort of kills it.

It just looks bland.

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i guess if you only have a Wii it might be ok or even good, but i dont see anyone with a ps3 or 360 that also has a wii getting this. i sure as hell wont

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@slinky6 said:
" I hate wii shooters because the gun moves independently of your view, which is the only way it will work but it still will never work very well. "

This.
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Hey! Red Steel!! Wait.....what?

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@AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers!
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There's apparently tons of people (especially game critics) that just cannot play FPS games on the Wii. I fortunately am not one of those.

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Jeff, ice tea is definitely not for idiots.  Ice tea is awesome.

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All the controls are customizable.  It looked like they should have cranked up the turning and made the bounding box smaller, i think that would have helped the aiming.


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Maybe crank up the turning speed?

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This game feels very early last-gen., even though it has great visuals.

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@squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers! "
You know what I saw? I saw Brad playing the game right, rather than retardedly or as if he didn't want to play it in the first place. and you know what happened? Brad did well. The similar environments are completely stupid, but it seems clear to me that the two were completely different experiences. Jeff seemed to be going out of his way to rip on the game, where as Brad seemed to be having fun. 
I dont see what your point is when you talk about XBox and PS shooters, because it's a completely different experience from using a mouse or a wii remote. The draw of a shooter on the wii is the controls, (which like i said, brad showed worked). 
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@AgentJ said:
" @squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers! "
You know what I saw? I saw Brad playing the game right, rather than retardedly or as if he didn't want to play it in the first place. and you know what happened? Brad did well. The similar environments are completely stupid, but it seems clear to me that the two were completely different experiences. Jeff seemed to be going out of his way to rip on the game, where as Brad seemed to be having fun. 
I dont see what your point is when you talk about XBox and PS shooters, because it's a completely different experience from using a mouse or a wii remote. The draw of a shooter on the wii is the controls, (which like i said, brad showed worked). 
"
You obviously didn't watch the video if you think Brad was in any way involved...
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I honestly don't see what is so great about this game. If it was on any other system, it would get mediocre scores because it the exact same game as a million others. But because it is on the Wii, it is getting all this hype and praise.

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The controls seem terrible. Jeff sounds so unenthusiastic about this game. lol

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@supercubedude said:
" @AgentJ said:
" @squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers! "
You know what I saw? I saw Brad playing the game right, rather than retardedly or as if he didn't want to play it in the first place. and you know what happened? Brad did well. The similar environments are completely stupid, but it seems clear to me that the two were completely different experiences. Jeff seemed to be going out of his way to rip on the game, where as Brad seemed to be having fun. 
I dont see what your point is when you talk about XBox and PS shooters, because it's a completely different experience from using a mouse or a wii remote. The draw of a shooter on the wii is the controls, (which like i said, brad showed worked). 
"
You obviously didn't watch the video if you think Brad was in any way involved... "
Sorry, i assumed it was brad. Who was playing with Jeff?
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" @AgentJ said:
" @squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers! "
You know what I saw? I saw Brad playing the game right, rather than retardedly or as if he didn't want to play it in the first place. and you know what happened? Brad did well. The similar environments are completely stupid, but it seems clear to me that the two were completely different experiences. Jeff seemed to be going out of his way to rip on the game, where as Brad seemed to be having fun. 
I dont see what your point is when you talk about XBox and PS shooters, because it's a completely different experience from using a mouse or a wii remote. The draw of a shooter on the wii is the controls, (which like i said, brad showed worked). 
"
You obviously didn't watch the video if you think Brad was in any way involved... "

Fail.
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I don't know. I hope the enviroments get better, but that AI was looking pretty bad. It just looks really generic and boring...I guess I'll wait for the written review later this week. It'll probably be written by Ryan.

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The Counduit looks fucking terrible.

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sweet ive been waitin for this one!

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@AgentJ: Ryan was playing with him. Forums only huh?
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Oblivion gates?
Sure why not?

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I bought this game yesterday, and this game is friggin awesome.  Controls are tight and natural.  Graphics are decent, good to great for the Wii, but graphics be damned, it's just a lot of fun to play.

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Horry rental!  It'll be the first time I;ve played my wii in almost a year.  Ever since i beat NMH.  Nintendo finally putting out...something.

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If i had a wii i'd pick it up, looks like some potential fun

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@Eag1eEy3 said:
" bought the game yesterday, its a sick game, dont see why they were having so much trouble with the controls after 5 mins you really get used to them. "
I totally agree, I played for about an hour, and the controls felt really natural, way tighter than Metroid in my opinion.  I'm lovin this game personally.
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@Milkman said:
" @SpinCookie said:
" Jeff: "When I come to an FPS I come for precision, and that's not what this was" or something along those lines.

I don't usually get angry, but adjust your fucking control scheme then!  That's why all of those options are there!  And Wii FPS's are known for being ultra precise.Sorry, i don't usually get angry at reviews or previews, but that just got to me. "
I feel I really need to stop replying to these comments but oh well.When I play a game I don't want to spend the first half hour adjusting the control scheme. When you pick up a game, you should be able to play with the default controls without a whole bunch of dumbass sliders fucking up the experience. "
I'll just say for me, I never changed any of the controls in the game, and after 10 or 15 minutes, I was fine playing.  The controls felt a lot tighter than say a Call of Duty game on the Wii.
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I'm really not a fan of shooters. I played Medal of Honor Heroes 2 on the Wii and the controls worked fine. If I did play a shooter, it wouldn't be with a dual analog gamepad either. I tried with my 360 and meh. I'll take a keyboard and mouse over that any day. The kids will like this I think and it should sell pretty well.

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@squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
truely. Would jeff have been able to get through the first room without help? There were icons on screen telling him what to press and he still couldn't do it. I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

I said this when the game was shown on Giantbomb before, why bother with this game when you could go pick up Halo 1 for the PC for $4.99 and it would be better, or you could get Killzone for PS2 for $4.99 and it would look better, or ANY PS3 Xbox 360 shooter and it would blow this game out of the water... It isn't good just because its all you have on the Wii. Anyone posting here in the forum has a PC obviously, and there are way better FPS games on the "console" made for FPS: the PC... The games are cheaper (go get Stalker for $9.99, Bioshock for $14.99), and it has mouse and keyboard...

And yes a PC is a "console", it can be hooked up to a living room TV, use a 360 controller, has exclusive games, play netflix, get facebook and twitter, games need to be made specifically for you operating system; and conversly my PS3 has and operating system, usb ports, a keyboard, email, a cpu, RAM, an upgradeable hard drive, games with DLC, and internet as well. If a PC isn't a console (albeit more customizable), then the PS3 and soon 360 are computers! "
This post is stupid and ironic. Yes, let's ignore written reviews and watch an informal, low resolution quick look video of other people playing it instead. Quick looks are entertaining, but hardly scientific. 
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That QL kind of made me nauseous. I thought the game looked cool, until I watched this.

And Jeff, sorry, but you're the idiot. Ice Tea is effin delicious. It's so good it should be called Nice Tea.

Sorry, I'm kind of an Ice Tea fanboy.

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over time you begin to notice the guys have a real problem reloading :P

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It's like Halo + Oblivion, except it doesn't look like that much fun to play... =(

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@Yzzerdd said:
" @Quater said:
" I think this game seems pretty frickin sweet, personally. I'm totally picking it up. "
Welp close thread this discussion is over because of your masterstroke of a rebuttal.Conduit frickin sweet? You heard it here first folks! "
It's called an opinion, dude. Sometimes people have those? You can make your own and everything! It's a feature that comes with brains; user-generated thinking!

Personally I'm in the camp with the people thinking Jeff just seemed kind of determined not to like the game from the outset. Don't get me wrong, Jeff is a very cool guy and in my opinion one of the best games journalists in the biz, but everyone - everyone - has certain things they're not quite so open-minded about. When Ryan was playing, he didn't seem anywhere near as negative about it, he got the hang of it quickly and even seemed to be playing as if he was - gasp! - having fun.

And really, complaining about the controls in a game where one of the main draws is the completely 100% customiseable control scheme? That's a little bit short-sighted. Lots of other people who've played it have praised the game for its flexible and fluid controls. What you have to remember is that because of the huge lack of these types of games on the Wii, nobody - especially someone who plays as much as Jeff - has any real experience getting used to the pointer-based FPS mechanics. Personally when I was playing Metroid Prime 3 I was thinking to myself "I am never, ever going back to playing shooters with dual analogue sticks ever again. This is WAY superior". But then, whaddaya know - there were hardly any more shooters on the Wii to actually play, so I was forced back to the sticks and lost the knack of playing with the remote again. When your brain is so wired into playing things a certain way, it takes time to re-train your reflexes to a different system.

So yeah, I think this looks like a cool game. It's not shockingly original or anything, but it looks like fun and it's a lot more colourful than your average FPS. That's enough to be worth a rental at the very least.
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"Ice Tea is for idiots."

>:(

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I always thought the Conduit would be retarded; this quick look confirms my assumptions.

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@AgentJ: Yeah that was Ryan. You can tell by the way he always refers to himself as "Ryan". Other people call him that too, sometimes.
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yawn...  - . -  ...zz zZ ZZ

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if this game wasn't on wii nobody would even care about it.  the only reason it's good is be because it makes wii gamers feel cool.

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This video is not representative of the games controls.  Not trying to criticize, but honestly I can fix every problem they complain about within 5mins in the control options.  The controls are the best part of this game when you actually adjust them and take some time to understand what you can do with them.  It is a "First Look" though, so maybe when they review it will be a little more accurate in it's representation.   I'm saying this from experience, coz I actually have it.  It's not just a blind opinion.

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@Gahzoo said:
" "Ice Tea is for idiots.">:( "
He's right you know.
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Wow...that AI looked like it just fell off the short bus....

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all you people bashing for stuff present in today's fps have to remember Its On The Wii, everythings not going to be to notch. the ai ould do with a bit more tweaking. the controls are completely customizable so you cant complain there. in allit looks to be a solid shooter for the wii.

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@Amilmitt said:
" all you people bashing for stuff present in today's fps have to remember Its On The Wii, everythings not going to be to notch. the ai ould do with a bit more tweaking. the controls are completely customizable so you cant complain there. in allit looks to be a solid shooter for the wii. "
Bullshit..  Black looks way nicer and has even better AI than anything exhibited in that video (which is a surprise, considering that the game was castigated for having AI that loves to stand next to exploding barrels).  And that game is four years old and built for tech that is less powerful than the Wii.

HVS is just incompetent.
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If i do get this game, it will probably just be for what i've heard is fantastic multiplayer, but even then i dont know, since i'm not much of a FPS fan

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@captain_clayman said:
" if this game wasn't on wii nobody would even care about it.  the only reason it's good is be because it makes wii gamers feel cool. "
Really? Because i cared due to the fact that it was a shooter controlled by IR. That's why I think how that new gun peripheral for PC is being made compatable with Valve games is awesome. 
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" @squidracerX said:
" @AgentJ said:
I'm going to trust the rest of the reviews for now, which have been pretty positive "
Ummm this isn't a review. He doesn't score it, thats why its called QUICK LOOK! And I think Jeff has played enough games to know this one is garbage... JUST LOOK AT IT! did you not wtch the same video the rest of us did? See this is why Quick Looks are awesome - a text review can be wrong, total opinion, vendetta, bias, paid off; you just don't know because you just read about someone else's experience. But this is just them playing the game, you can SEE that it sucks. That the graphics are PS2 graphics, that things don't break when shot, voice acting and plot are garbage, level design and enemies are nothing new, that the controls sucked and ANY FPS with a regular SONY or Microsoft contoller would have been better, HECK a GAMECUBE controller would have been better!

This post is stupid and ironic. Yes, let's ignore written reviews and watch an informal, low resolution quick look video of other people playing it instead. Quick looks are entertaining, but hardly scientific. 
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Hahaha, why did you use the word ironic? there is NO IRONY in my reply! So you're stupid not my posts. SNAP! I didn't say ignore reviews at all, don't misquote me. I read reviews all the time. What I said (and you can see my exact quote), "THIS ISN"T A REVIEW". AgentJ implied it was. It isn't. Its a quicklook. And no one said anything about "quicklooks being scientific", they are not supposed to be, they are supposed to be fun and you can see a game being played to see if it looks good or not, but let me add that reviews are not "scientific" either, if you think they are you are a dolt. They are 100% opinion and open to human error, personal preference, and corruption. That's 100% why i said they cannot always be trusted. See what happened to Jeff on Gamespot when he gave an honest review of Kain and Lynch, the website didn't like it because of the money they were paid for advertising by the game makers. Luckily he had a video review so you could SEE FOR YOURSELF what he was talking about. If you can sit there and watch it yourself then you can make up your own mind, not just listen to the opinion of a stranger on a game you've never seen. And your interwebs suck if all you can see is a  "low resolution" quick look, watch it in high quality and YOU CAN TELL THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE ITS FROM 5-7 YEARS AGO! Quick Looks can't lie... reviews can.
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I think a lot of the hate for this game is pretty much just hate for the Wii in general.  It's the same stuff we see in every QL or almost anything else you see on this site related to the Wii.  The fact is, most people who own a Wii and like it probably don't read and don't care to read GB, they read reviews on Amazon or see a commercial during NCIS and make a decision based on that. 

It seems like a majority of the people who come to GB are either indifferent or generally hostile towards the system itself, and they take every opportunity to jump into one of these threads and bash a system they don't really care about.  QLs like this, where neither Jeff or Ryan seem to give 2 shits about the game or making an effort to learn the controls (Jeff way more than Ryan, but I've kind of come to expect that from Jeff), just add fuel to their fire.

Anyone who is excited about Natal who doesn't think the same kind of control based issues are going to come with it as well are fooling themselves.  For Natal to work properly for all users, just like the Wii, there will have to be some level of customization for each user who plays the game, based on things like the person's mobility, their position in the room, the amount of light in the room, things like that. 

Finally, if Conduit didn't come with the level of control customization that it does, those same people bitching about how much you have to customize it to suit your individual tastes would be bitching about how they didn't offer enough ways to customize the controls.  High Voltage wasn't going to win in this situation no matter which route they took.