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    E3 2010 - Sony Press Conference Discussion

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    @apertura said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    Nein. 360, PC and PS3, but according to Gabe the PS3 version will be "the console version to play". "
    I wonder what they did to him to make him say that. 
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    #952  Edited By sjschmidt93
    @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    No.
     
    @TeflonBilly said:
    " @Sergotron said:
    " Still can not stand the character design for Infamous 2. But I will still purchase as long as it still holds on to the quality the first game had. "
    Yeah, it's terrible. And I didn't think Cole looked that cool to begin with, with his bike messenger bag and whatnot. But this new design is classic chazz. "

    Yeah, how can they just change it? I'm sue it won't be justified with the stoy, I guess they just didn't like the old one.
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    #953  Edited By trophyhunter

     on a scale from one to ten I'd give Nintendo a 9 Sony a 8.5 and Microsoft a 5 

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    #954  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @apertura said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    Nein. 360, PC and PS3, but according to Gabe the PS3 version will be "the console version to play". "
    I wonder what they did to him to make him say that.  "
    maybe he just realized SONY isn't as controlling as Microsoft.
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    #955  Edited By apertura
    @The_Laughing_Man said:
    " @apertura said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    Nein. 360, PC and PS3, but according to Gabe the PS3 version will be "the console version to play". "
    I wonder what they did to him to make him say that.  "
    He mentioned something about Kevin Butler as the VP of sharp things behind the stage.
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    #956  Edited By AndrewB
    @The_Laughing_Man said:

    " @apertura said:

    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    Nein. 360, PC and PS3, but according to Gabe the PS3 version will be "the console version to play". "
    I wonder what they did to him to make him say that.  "
    Microsoft seems like they pissed off Valve by crippling free content and patches through Live. Sony is probably offering an open platform and a wad of cash in one of the smartest moves they've made in a long while. I think MS has handled that situation horribly and it's going to cost them big.
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    #957  Edited By LiquidPrince
    @ProfessorEss said:
    " @LiquidPrince said:

    " @Sergotron said:

    " Still can not stand the character design for Infamous 2. But I will still purchase as long as it still holds on to the quality the first game had. "
    I think he looks better, but I think we're not just used to it. "
    I'm torn on his appearance (was never a big fan of how he looked in the original) but I think the new voice is way way better. "
    He's not Batman anymore.
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    #958  Edited By tebbit
    @Godlovesugly said:
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    Brilliant.
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    #959  Edited By FuzMel

    What's funny is that I can have motion sensing with the Wii and it's still effing cheaper. Probably works better too since they came out with it first. Stupid Microsoft stepping on everybody's toes.

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    #960  Edited By penguindust

    I don't know.  I guess my overall reaction to the show is "meh, it's alright".  Honestly, the brightest points of the show were largely unrelated to actual games.  The comedy bit by Kevin Butler and the introduction to Portal 2 by Gabe Newell were the best things in the show in my opinion.  Game wise, there really weren't too many surprises.  The 3D stuff was long and laborious on TV.  Really, unless you are watching it in 3D, I can't see anyone getting excited.  Killzone 3 looked like more Killzone which is good, but leaves me with the same sense of deja vu as Halo Reach and Call of Duty: Black Ops.   Other games look interesting, I can't deny that, but all of them are known quantities.  I would have preferred a closer look at Final Fantasy XIII Versus to another trailer for FFXIV, although the brief looks at InFamous 2 and Twisted Metal were nice.  I was interested in the overall promise of Little Big Planet 2.  Knowing that the community can make any type of game is exciting whereas the mostly platformers with float controls found in the original didn't hold me for long.  The Move stuff looked familiar or non-essential to the game, but I'm hoping things will develop over time.  I give this show a "B-".   

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    #961  Edited By StoicM

    Steam on PS3. Didn't see this one coming.

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    #962  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @apertura said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " So is Portal2 exclusive? "
    Nein. 360, PC and PS3, but according to Gabe the PS3 version will be "the console version to play". "
    knowing valve, the lead console is the place to play there games on.. and it looks like PS3 is the lead console.
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    #963  Edited By Eidderf

    Nintendos was by far the strongest conference in my opinion, between Microsoft and Sony I would say I prefer the MS one in terms of what games they showed but the Playstation one was better paced and presented. Portal 2 was probably the most exciting announcement they had (for me at least) but I'm going to get that on the PC anyway so it being there didn't mean much to me. The move seemed to work well but what it did didn't seem to distance itself enough from what the motion plus does, even though the kinect demostrations were dull and the games kind of unispired  they showed something new and that's it more than just an eyetoy. Twisted Metal and Littlebigplanet 2 looked good even though I don't really know enough people with PS3s to get the most out of them, it's a shame because I enjoyed the first LBP and old TM a lot.

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    #964  Edited By J0n3s1

    Huge let down..

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    #965  Edited By Hitchenson
    @trophyhunter said:
    "  on a scale from one to ten I'd give Nintendo a 9 Sony a 8.5 and Microsoft a 5  "
    Why are you being so generous with Microsoft? You don't need to give them a pity score. Your other two are pretty accurate.
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    #966  Edited By Cube
    @FuzMel said:
    " What's funny is that I can have motion sensing with the Wii and it's still effing cheaper. Probably works better too since they came out with it first. Stupid Microsoft stepping on everybody's toes. "
    You're saying old tech is better than evolving technology. 
      
    Just making sure you're understanding yourself there.
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    #967  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo

    IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes...

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    #968  Edited By evilbuddyholly

    I was very happy to see Kevin Butler... and he isn't even a game, yet.
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    #969  Edited By milpool

    3DS!

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    #970  Edited By ChickenPants

    Great great conference.
     
    Though I'm pretty disappointed we didn't see any new big IPs.
    I'd of liked to have seen Starhawk,The Last Guardian and Agent too.
     
    Great Twisted Metal reveal.

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    #971  Edited By Hitchenson
    @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "
    Because people love Nintendo's games and they've proven time and time again to be the best at what they do? Yeah. That might well be it. It's not like anyone came out with anything that original anyway.
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    #972  Edited By tebbit
    @EvilBuddyHolly said:
    " I was very happy to see Kevin Butler... and he isn't even a game, yet. "
    YET
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    #973  Edited By milpool

    3DS!

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    #974  Edited By Eidderf
    @DuhQbnSiLo said:

    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "

    They are sequels not remakes, the only remake I have heard is Starfox and the rumoured Ocarina of time on 3DS
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    #975  Edited By Xanth93

    No Last Guardian trailer. :(
     
    We need to hear more about that game.

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    #976  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @Hitchenson said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "
    Because people love Nintendo's games and they've proven time and time again to be the best at what they do? Yeah. That might well be it. It's not like anyone came out with anything that original anyway. "
    Don't get me wrong Nintendo had a great press conference? but a bunch of sequels to the same games we've been playing centuries compared to new amazing next-gen IPs.
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    #977  Edited By Cube
    @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @Hitchenson said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "
    Because people love Nintendo's games and they've proven time and time again to be the best at what they do? Yeah. That might well be it. It's not like anyone came out with anything that original anyway. "
    Don't get me wrong Nintendo had a great press conference? but a bunch of sequels to the same games we've been playing centuries compared to new amazing next-gen IPs. "
    What new and amazing next gen IP's? Did Sony announce any?
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    #978  Edited By ChickenPants
    @Xanth93 said:
    " No Last Guardian trailer. :(  We need to hear more about that game. "
    I'm thinking they might be saving it for TGS.. Sony did have an awful lot of stuff to get through this time so maybe that's why many of their big games were left out.
     
    Though that means it probably won't be coming out this year :(
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    #979  Edited By Jhriad

    The Last Guardian will probably be Gamescom or TGS tbh.  Would've liked to see something out of Agent though.  After Red Dead I'm extremely curious what we get for a platform exclusive.

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    #980  Edited By checcoz

    Because of Nintendo and this
     

    Gaming is having a ridiculous huge tv in a tiny one room apartment, stay up til 3 am to earn a trophy that it's not real, but is. I love gaming. And i know you love it too.
    Because every gamer is a true gamer; motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone, and that we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, because deep inside we all serve one master, one king, and his name is GAMING FOREVER HE MAY REIGN 


     I'd say, yeah, it's pretty much the E3 of forever.
     
    Even if the conference had too montages :\

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    #981  Edited By greennoodles
    @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @Hitchenson said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "
    Because people love Nintendo's games and they've proven time and time again to be the best at what they do? Yeah. That might well be it. It's not like anyone came out with anything that original anyway. "
    Don't get me wrong Nintendo had a great press conference? but a bunch of sequels to the same games we've been playing centuries compared to new amazing next-gen IPs. "
    What new and amazing next gen IP's? Did Sony announce any? "
    Agreed
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    #982  Edited By ChickenPants
    @checcoz said:
    " Because of Nintendo and this
     

    Gaming is having a ridiculous huge tv in a tiny one room apartment, stay up til 3 am to earn a trophy that it's not real, but is. I love gaming. And i know you love it too.
    Because every gamer is a true gamer; motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone, and that we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, because deep inside we all serve one master, one king, and his name is GAMING FOREVER HE MAY REIGN 


     I'd say, yeah, it's pretty much the E3 of forever.
     
    Even if the conference had too montages :\

    "
    That should really become some sort of meme to diffuse fanboy internet arguments.
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    #983  Edited By greennoodles
    @ChickenPants said:
    " @checcoz said:
    " Because of Nintendo and this
     

    Gaming is having a ridiculous huge tv in a tiny one room apartment, stay up til 3 am to earn a trophy that it's not real, but is. I love gaming. And i know you love it too.
    Because every gamer is a true gamer; motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone, and that we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, because deep inside we all serve one master, one king, and his name is GAMING FOREVER HE MAY REIGN 


     I'd say, yeah, it's pretty much the E3 of forever.
     
    Even if the conference had too montages :\

    "
    That should really become some sort of meme to diffuse fanboy internet arguments. "
    I found it funny that this "gamers unite" speech came in the middle of the presser that took the most pot shots at the other companies.
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    #984  Edited By checcoz
    @ChickenPants said:

    "That should really become some sort of meme to diffuse fanboy internet arguments. "

     
    It has been a well executed example of fan service, neverthless
     
    @greennoodles: 

     " I found it funny that this "gamers unite" speech came in the middle of the presser that took the most pot shots at the other companies. "



     
    Pew Pew :D

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    #985  Edited By Cube
    @greennoodles said:
    " @ChickenPants said:
    " @checcoz said:
    " Because of Nintendo and this
     

    Gaming is having a ridiculous huge tv in a tiny one room apartment, stay up til 3 am to earn a trophy that it's not real, but is. I love gaming. And i know you love it too.
    Because every gamer is a true gamer; motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone, and that we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, because deep inside we all serve one master, one king, and his name is GAMING FOREVER HE MAY REIGN 


     I'd say, yeah, it's pretty much the E3 of forever.
     
    Even if the conference had too montages :\

    "
    That should really become some sort of meme to diffuse fanboy internet arguments. "
    I found it funny that this "gamers unite" speech came in the middle of the presser that took the most pot shots at the other companies. "
    And it was awesome. If you're seriously going to let your allegiance get in the way of something pretty cool, there's a problem.
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    #986  Edited By greennoodles
    @Cube said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @ChickenPants said:
    " @checcoz said:
    " Because of Nintendo and this
     

    Gaming is having a ridiculous huge tv in a tiny one room apartment, stay up til 3 am to earn a trophy that it's not real, but is. I love gaming. And i know you love it too.
    Because every gamer is a true gamer; motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone, and that we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, because deep inside we all serve one master, one king, and his name is GAMING FOREVER HE MAY REIGN 


     I'd say, yeah, it's pretty much the E3 of forever.
     
    Even if the conference had too montages :\

    "
    That should really become some sort of meme to diffuse fanboy internet arguments. "
    I found it funny that this "gamers unite" speech came in the middle of the presser that took the most pot shots at the other companies. "
    And it was awesome. If you're seriously going to let your allegiance get in the way of something pretty cool, there's a problem. "
    Im not, i just think they are being a tad hypocritical. The only real problem I had with sony was the pushing of something hardly anyone can afford and pushing multi-platform games as exclusive.
    @checcoz said:


     
    @greennoodles: 

     " I found it funny that this "gamers unite" speech came in the middle of the presser that took the most pot shots at the other companies. "



     
    Pew Pew :D

    "
    Lol, like holding a plastic thing and pretending it's a gun is a ton more mature than using your fingers like a gun. Oh well, they are both better than that piece of crap Ubi showed off yesterday.
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    #987  Edited By Meowayne

    SONY WHERE MY LAST GUARDIAN AT GODDAMMIT

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    #988  Edited By Gaff
    More details on Playstation Plus
     
    In short: Cross Game Chat, 1 hour full game trials, early beta / demo access, monthly free PSN / Mini / PS1 title, select discounts on PSN, premium avatars and themes. 
     
    Sounds interesting. 
     
    Also, Sly Collection should be added to the first post (sorry mods, more work for you!)
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    #989  Edited By Cube
    @Gaff said:
    " More details on Playstation Plus:  In short: Cross Game Chat, 1 hour full game trials, early beta / demo access, monthly free PSN / Mini / PS1 title, select discounts on PSN, premium avatars and themes.  Sounds interesting.  Also, Sly Collection should be added to the first post (sorry mods, more work for you!) "
    This is actually a good idea. As long as players still get to play online for free I don't see any issue with it. Maybe it could have been a little cheaper considering it's not giving you online access (the main draw of Xbox Live at the same price), but it looks like a really smart move and a great way to make some extra cash.
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    #990  Edited By Gaff
    @Cube: I think it all depends on what games are available for the 1 hour trial. 

    Full Game Trial:  
    This premium feature gives you the chance to try PSN and Blu-ray disc titles before you buy them in a whole new way.  We are not talking normal demos of selected parts of a game here.  With Full Game Trial, you can download the full game and play it as if you owned it for approximately one hour, depending on the game, before you decide if you want to buy it or not. So you can check out the online modes, play against friends or anything else you’d normally do with a game. 

    The other great thing is that your progress and trophies from the trial will all be unlocked if you buy the game so no need to go back and start again.    

       With the way the Playstation blog writes it, this is going to be very, very interesting. If this opens up the floodgates for digital distribution of Blu-ray titles, this is going to be HUGE.
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    #991  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @Hitchenson said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " IDK how people can just say give nintendo some much hype for giving hes a bunch of remakes... "
    Because people love Nintendo's games and they've proven time and time again to be the best at what they do? Yeah. That might well be it. It's not like anyone came out with anything that original anyway. "
    Don't get me wrong Nintendo had a great press conference? but a bunch of sequels to the same games we've been playing centuries compared to new amazing next-gen IPs. "
    What new and amazing next gen IP's? Did Sony announce any? "
    um Im not talking about brand new IPs...  Talking New IPs as in not sequals and remakes of the same shit you've already done.  SONY and Microsoft both have given us new IPs (inFamous, littlebigplanet) there sequels to NEW IPs not just a sequal to crash or something. Nintendo feeds people the same crap and everyone is extremely happy for it. I understand its' cool, cause even I wanna play Donkey Kong. But E3 is about what the future holds for us gamers. And Nintendo gave us all our classics favs, and a new handheld. Sony showed us what there doing with 3D, motion, online, and there upcoming titles. Isn't that what a press conference is about.
     
    It's E3 2010 and all we have too look foward to from nintendo is Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Kriby, Golden Eye, and a New  DS. If would have told you that 5 years ago, everyone would think I'm crazy.  Other than  Wii graphics on a DS, what has nintendo pushed? 3-D? the same 3D that everyone is complaining about from SONY and Microsoft? Please.
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    #992  Edited By Cube
    @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least.
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    #993  Edited By greennoodles
    @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:  
     
    At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that.
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    #994  Edited By dj

    I want something from Team Ico but I doubt it will happen.

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    #995  Edited By Cube
    @Dj: Probably nothing on The Last Guardian for E3 at least. TGS probably.
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    #996  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @greennoodles said:
    " @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:   At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that. "
    There doing with Kirby what they did with paper mario but with yarn. Nintendo is so unoriginal they bore the hell out of me...
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    #997  Edited By greennoodles
    @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:   At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that. "
    There doing with Kirby what they did with paper mario but with yarn. Nintendo is so unoriginal they bore the hell out of me... "
    So....... it's different...... damn that Nintendo, why can't they do something new like a sequel to a game that came out a year ago!
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    #998  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @greennoodles said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:   At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that. "
    There doing with Kirby what they did with paper mario but with yarn. Nintendo is so unoriginal they bore the hell out of me... "
    So....... it's different...... damn that Nintendo, why can't they do something new like a sequel to a game that came out a year ago! "
    Why can't they create new IPs new characters new anything... Last new thing nintendo created was pikmin....
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    #999  Edited By Cube
    @greennoodles said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:   At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that. "
    There doing with Kirby what they did with paper mario but with yarn. Nintendo is so unoriginal they bore the hell out of me... "
    So....... it's different...... damn that Nintendo, why can't they do something new like a sequel to a game that came out a year ago! "
    Or how about they come up with new IP's for this generation? Too much hard work?
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    #1000  Edited By DuhQbnSiLo
    @Cube said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo said:
    " @greennoodles said:
    " @Cube said:
    " @DuhQbnSiLo: It's not the same 3D because it doesn't require thousands of dollars in investment. Nintendo is more guilty of not coming out with any new IP's (published by them) for the entire generation, and building on IP's created this generation is better than relying on IP's created in the 80's/90's but it doesn't make anything Sony/Microsoft showcased "new amazing IP's". Not this year at least. "
    The only new IP I can think of off the top of my head is Codename Kingdom.  
     
    @DuhQbnSiLo:   At least Nintendo is doing new things with Metroid, Kirby and Kid Icarus. My name is green and I can admit that. "
    There doing with Kirby what they did with paper mario but with yarn. Nintendo is so unoriginal they bore the hell out of me... "
    So....... it's different...... damn that Nintendo, why can't they do something new like a sequel to a game that came out a year ago! "
    Or how about they come up with new IP's for this generation? Too much hard work? "
    That's all im asking... create new IPs that uses the Wii's feature better. All they do is create new ways to play the same games every generation.

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