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    Typically representing the elite of humanity's Space Forces, Space Marines have appeared in numerous games such as the Doom series and Warhammer series.

    How does Space Marine make any sense at all?

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    #1  Edited By WickedCestus

    Excuse me Giant Bomb, but I have a question. Why the hell do we call army men in space Space Marines? I mean, I understand that Warhammer 40K did it first and everyone's just referencing it, but if you think about it it really makes no sense at all. Doesn't marine imply water? There is no water in space, and personally I don't really think water and space are all that similar. 
     
    Also, Space Marines don't even fight in space, they fight on planets. Wait, do marines fight on the ground too? I don't really know.  
     
    Anyways I'm sure someone more knowledgable about Marines and Marining and Mariners and Marinas can fill me in. 

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    #3  Edited By nintendoeats

    I'm pretty sure that marines don't just fight in water.

    Also, it was so that they could make a chapter called the Ultramarines and sell a paint called ultramarine blue.

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    #4  Edited By Dany

    Space Air Force makes no sense

    Space Coast Guard makes no sense

    Marines are on ships

    Space Marines are on spaceships

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    #5  Edited By Mysterion

    They're called Space Marines because space is essentially the ocean but you cant just call them marines so you have to add space.

      I think this video illustrates my point exactly.
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    #6  Edited By ryanwho

    US marines were called marines because they were naval vessel infantry at some point. And the job changed, the name stayed, then some dork invented Warhammer and the rest is history.

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    #7  Edited By FourWude
    @Dany said:

    Space Air Force makes no sense

    Space Coast Guard makes no sense

    Marines are on ships

    Space Marines are on spaceships

    By that logic ships float on water. Therefore using a  "ship" in space doesn't make sense.

    SpaceCrafts maybe?

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    #8  Edited By nintendoeats

    @FourWude: Well, sea ships sail the sea, and space ships sail the stars so...

    Starcrafts?

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    #9  Edited By saethir

    how about this: Astro=space, naut=nautical

    an Astronaut is a space sailor, so people who are badass in space get to be Space Marines.

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    #10  Edited By FourWude
    @nintendoeats said:

    @FourWude: Well, sea ships sail the sea, and space ships sail the stars so...

    Starcrafts?

    This was probably how Blizzard came up with the name. We're just retreading history at this point.

    You know what, fuck it, all space"ships" from hereon should be called 'submarines', because it would make no sense at all.

    'DeepSpace Submariners' is what space marines should be called from hereon out. And if I ever invent my own space universe, they'll be damn sure to feature.

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    #11  Edited By Spoonman671

    For the Emperor!

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    #12  Edited By WickedCestus
    @Saethir said:

    how about this: Astro=space, naut=nautical

    an Astronaut is a space sailor, so people who are badass in space get to be Space Marines.

    You're a clever person. Very clever.
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    #13  Edited By herocide
    @Axxol said:
    Probably because Space Soldier sounds stupid.
    Some Ripley's Believe It Or Not book has a "metal mechanations" section in the back or something, and there was a steel sculpture of a Warhammer 40k Space Marine, and the subtitle was "Space Soldier." Nerd rage was had that day.
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    #14  Edited By DocPorpoise

    lets just call them space jarheads and be done.

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    #15  Edited By NTM
    @supermike6: Actually, Marine when it comes to military, or soldier, is a person who fights on land, or at sea, but since Space Marine is fiction, there's leeway to change the definition up a bit to fit what's going on. It makes sense, and it's not always space marine, there's also colonial marine as well.
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    #17  Edited By nintendoeats

    @Axxol said:

    Space Seamen
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    #18  Edited By TobbRobb
    @Mysterion: Why have I never seen this group until like a few days ago and now it shows up fucking EVERYWHERE? Stop posting Girls generation, pleeeease people.
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    #19  Edited By MordeaniisChaos

    @supermike6: Marines absolutely fight on the ground. They are amphibious forces. In fact, they even have air units. Marines are really just all purpose warriors. They fight everywhere, and are usually the ones on the front lines. And considering that most fictions consider space fleets 'naval' it's appropriate that Space Marines be Space Marines.

    The Marines are absolutely a fighting force in the Middle East right now, even in landlocked countries, they fight. I'm actually trying to join, and my recruiter is trying to get me a job with tanks. So yeah, the US Marines of today are all over. They are often stationed aboard ships, but they also are the US embassy guards, they use tanks, AAVs, and I believe they have air units. I want to say Harriers are totally a Marine thing? I know there are Marine pilots. So they must fly something :p

    It really all comes down to "spaceships" vs just plain old "ships" and how that interacts with the term "Marine".

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    #20  Edited By Afroman269

    You're thinking too hard.

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    #21  Edited By WickedCestus
    @TobbRobb said:
    @Mysterion: Why have I never seen this group until like a few days ago and now it shows up fucking EVERYWHERE? Stop posting Girls generation, pleeeease people.
    That's mostly my fault.  
     
    I won't apologize. 
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    #22  Edited By FancySoapsMan

    They probably started out as regular old marines on earth or some other planet, then eventually they started operating in space, and they just added a "space" in front of "marine".

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    #23  Edited By NickLott

    Marines get their name because they are the infantry under the banner of the Navy and would, in the earlier days of the military particularly, enter conflict through the water in some manner. Nowadays, Marines enter in all manner of ways.

    In science fiction, space ships get their naming conventions (sickbay, brig, bridge, etc) and their command structure cues from the Navy as their analogue, Star Trek being the most obvious example. So in turn, the military units are also often called Marines.

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    #24  Edited By Mysterion
    @TobbRobb: It's called promoting a new cultural trend you intolerant person.
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    #25  Edited By nintendoeats

    @Mysterion: I hate cultural trends.

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    #26  Edited By tim_the_corsair
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    @Mysterion: I hate cultural trends.

    Personally, I hate vans.

    @OP: you understand that Wikipedia exists for all your stupid questions, right?
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    #27  Edited By Jeffsekai

    WE FIGHT FOR MACRAGGE AND WE SHALL KNOW NO FEAR!

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    #28  Edited By Samaritan

    I'd play the shit out of a game called Space Seaman.

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    #29  Edited By MrKlorox

    Cause space terms use nautical language. Period.

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    #30  Edited By SeriouslyNow

    @FourWude said:

    @Dany said:

    Space Air Force makes no sense

    Space Coast Guard makes no sense

    Marines are on ships

    Space Marines are on spaceships

    By that logic ships float on water. Therefore using a "ship" in space doesn't make sense.

    SpaceCrafts maybe?

    Hulled vessel = ship.

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    #31  Edited By ThePaleKing

    40k didn't do it first by the way; Aliens was I believe the first one to coin the term. 

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    #32  Edited By PhatSeeJay
    @NickLott

    Marines get their name because they are the infantry under the banner of the Navy and would, in the earlier days of the military particularly, enter conflict through the water in some manner. Nowadays, Marines enter in all manner of ways.

    In science fiction, space ships get their naming conventions (sickbay, brig, bridge, etc) and their command structure cues from the Navy as their analogue, Star Trek being the most obvious example. So in turn, the military units are also often called Marines.

    Pretty much what I intended to reply. A fleet of space ships deploying space marines. Float them space waves!
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    #33  Edited By FourWude
    @SeriouslyNow said:

    @FourWude said:

    @Dany said:

    Space Air Force makes no sense

    Space Coast Guard makes no sense

    Marines are on ships

    Space Marines are on spaceships

    By that logic ships float on water. Therefore using a "ship" in space doesn't make sense.

    SpaceCrafts maybe?

    Hulled vessel = ship.

    ship (shp)
    n.
    1.
    a. A vessel of considerable size for deep-water navigation.
    b. A sailing vessel having three or more square-rigged masts.

    2. An aircraft or spacecraft.

    SpaceCraft.

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    #34  Edited By Castiel

    How does your face make any sense at all... huh... HUH!?! You probably didn't think about that!

    Derp!

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    #35  Edited By CaptainObvious

    Because it sounds cool.

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    #36  Edited By bybeach

    These guys are called space marines because. Like ryanwho notes, the app has superseded original conditions. Their story is apparently intimately wrapped up with that of the emperor hisself, yet just a facet of that universe.

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    #37  Edited By DrHawking

    @supermike6 said:

    There is no water in space, and personally I don't really think water and space are all that similar.

    Theres quite a bit of water in space.

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    #38  Edited By penguindust

    Never doubt The Corps, son.  
     
    @Mysterion:   Makes perfect sense to me.  Where do I enlist?

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    #39  Edited By Jimbo

    Starriors?

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    #40  Edited By imsh_pl

    Because Space makes everything better, just like Guile's theme and Vinny.

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    #41  Edited By Slaker117

    Given the function large spacefaring vessels fill in most fictions, it makes sense to think of them as ships, and thus they fall under the Navy. From there, the servicemen who are stationed on those ships are generally Navy if their duties are concerned with ship operation, or Marine if they are combat units who protect and/or deploy from the ship.
     
    The term "Marine" does originate from the the idea of fighting on the sea, aboard ships, but it is not limited to that in the modern world. We had Marines fighting on the ground in the Middle East, for example. When extending today's definition into a world where we have colonized other planets, it isn't a stretch to have the troops who deploy to fight on those planets be Marines.

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