Since I'd heard rumblings about the initial release of this being limited, I pre-ordered a copy through Best Buy and, honestly, forgot about it. Last night, I got an e-mail from Best Buy with the subject line "Update on your BestBuy.com Preorder." Apparently BB feels confident in telling me the pre-order release date is 12/20/2011.

So, yeah, it seems like this may be out just before Christmas.

Official release date has been release, 20th in NA 22nd in EU.

http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20110924

I just got an email from the official website and they confirmed that the release date is the 12/20 in NA

to quote The Cole Train:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

@kingzetta said:

@PhatSeeJay said:

there is no 22nd month

OUR DATING SYSTEM IS FAR SUPERIOR

IT IS IN AN ORDER OF SIZE

so it will go F2P around May next year then? Cool.

dd/mm/yy

Silly americans.

22.12?

For an MMO.

What the...>_>

@Rattle618 said:

so it will go F2P around May next year then? Cool.

This made me LOL. So true, can't wait to try it out for a weekend when it's F2P. Than uninstall it when I realize it's still crap.

@kingzetta said:

@PhatSeeJay said:

there is no 22nd month

That's how they do it in Canada, I guess. Either that or it really means October of 2012.

So when Europeans refer to the date verbally, do they say, "Today is the [Day] of [Month]" or "Today is [Month] [Day]"?

@MooseyMcMan said:

@kingzetta said:

@PhatSeeJay said:

there is no 22nd month

That's how they do it in Canada, I guess. Either that or it really means October of 2012.

This mail is sent out to European accounts.

@StarvingGamer said:

So when Europeans refer to the date verbally, do they say, "Today is the [Day] of [Month]" or "Today is [Month] [Day]"?

In Sweden at least, we say date followed by month. Not sure about other European countries.

No doupt buged and unplayable till the 20th of june 2013, just in time for its free to play lunch.

@StarvingGamer said:

So when Europeans refer to the date verbally, do they say, "Today is the [Day] of [Month]" or "Today is [Month] [Day]"?

Both are used in the UK but [Day] of [Month] is much more commonly used.

My email I just got from them says:

I kind of wonder if launching only 5 days before Christmas is really such a good strategy. But hey, they must feel pretty confident about it.

Later than I would've hoped, but at least we finally have a release date, and at least it's this year.

@Extreme_Popcorn said:

@StarvingGamer said:

So when Europeans refer to the date verbally, do they say, "Today is the [Day] of [Month]" or "Today is [Month] [Day]"?

Both are used in the UK but [Day] of [Month] is much more commonly used.

Correct. For example, my birthday is 29th of July. I have never once in my life said my birthday is July 29th, because that's just weird.

@Jmangino said:

@Rattle618 said:

so it will go F2P around May next year then? Cool.

This made me LOL. So true, can't wait to try it out for a weekend when it's F2P. Than uninstall it when I realize it's still crap.

It's pathetic how without even playing it you all judge the quality. I've played it for the past month, and it's a great MMO.(By the way it's not very much like WoW.)

@CL60 said:

@Jmangino said:

@Rattle618 said:

so it will go F2P around May next year then? Cool.

This made me LOL. So true, can't wait to try it out for a weekend when it's F2P. Than uninstall it when I realize it's still crap.

It's pathetic how without even playing it you all judge the quality. I've played it for the past month, and it's a great MMO.(By the way it's not very much like WoW.)

It would have to be the most incredible MMO experience ever for that to matter, cause the fact that it will go F2P (cause believe me, it will) has little to do with quality and a hole lot to do with the current market and a business model that clearly doesn`t work in it.

That was my answer if you are a thoughtful person looking for a discussion, if this is fanboy rage directed at me consider me uninterested.

@Rattle618 said:

@CL60 said:

@Jmangino said:

@Rattle618 said:

so it will go F2P around May next year then? Cool.

This made me LOL. So true, can't wait to try it out for a weekend when it's F2P. Than uninstall it when I realize it's still crap.

It's pathetic how without even playing it you all judge the quality. I've played it for the past month, and it's a great MMO.(By the way it's not very much like WoW.)

It would have to be the most incredible MMO experience ever for that to matter, cause the fact that it will go F2P (cause believe me, it will) has little to do with quality and a hole lot to do with the current market and a business model that clearly doesn`t work in it.

That was my answer if you are a thoughtful person looking for a discussion, if this is fanboy rage directed at me consider me uninterested.

There's nothing wrong with the $15/month model other than everyone that has tried to use it over the last few years has been trying to do it with crappy games that no one has been willing to pay for. The MMO's that have all tried to use it have sucked, and when compared with all the pay 2 win ones that people can download and screw around with for free, and get that fix they are after, why would they pay for a crappy one of the same quality when they can download any number of the other billion pay2win ones out there for free? The model is fine, it's the standard of what's considered acceptable of a game to be priced at that has risen to such a high degree that no one, until now, has been able to attempt to make one like that.

TOR is going in trying to do this crazy thing where they make a quality MMO with all the bells and whistles that people expect from a modern MMO right out of the gate, and not have to wait for 2+ years of patches before it catches up to what's considered standard. From what I have seen and played of it it's a great MMO that can be held up to the best of the best and hold its own if not outshine. Let all the haters like the first few posts in this hate all they want, and while they are off sulking and bitching about a game they have never played before being so terrible, millions will be playing and enjoying it.

I'm not claiming the games perfection incarnate or anything, but it annoys me to no end to see people run around talking out their ass about how the games dead before it has even come out as if it's a fact.