@Akrid said:

Yay knee-jerk reactions... You're jumping to conclusions.

I'm not, though. While this last update certainly influenced my decision, if you read my post you'd know that it's been a slow burn. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the first substantial update they put out after the game is made free to play is also easily the most suspect update the game has seen. Balancing arguments aside, the rocket launcher and the projectiles it fires cause severe frame rate drops because the model itself is around 4000 polygons, and the projectiles are entirely made of particle effects that are clearly not optimized. Add on top of that the lackluster animations included with the update and I don't think it's wrong to be suspicious of Valve giving the update duties to a B team now that the game is free to play. A last effort to make some money with a 4 year old game and move important development resources elsewhere.

@Akrid said:

@ColumnBreaker said:

@Akrid said:

Yay knee-jerk reactions... You're jumping to conclusions.

I'm not, though. While this last update certainly influenced my decision, if you read my post you'd know that it's been a slow burn. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the first substantial update they put out after the game is made free to play is also easily the most suspect update the game has seen. Balancing arguments aside, the rocket launcher and the projectiles it fires cause severe frame rate drops because the model itself is around 4000 polygons, and the projectiles are entirely made of particle effects that are clearly not optimized. Add on top of that the lackluster animations included with the update and I don't think it's wrong to be suspicious of Valve giving the update duties to a B team now that the game is free to play. A last effort to make some money with a 4 year old game and move important development resources elsewhere.

How the hell has it been a slow burn? This is the first weapon update since F2P and you immediately quit, assuming that Valve is trying to squeeze more money out of people. That's pure conjecture. As for the optimization, well, it's easy for a modeler to lose sight of those things when they haven't touched a shitty computer in years.

They fucked up the balance a bit, like they have oh so many times in the past. They'll fix it. You're a fool for jumping ship as soon as you see the wave. And as other people have stated, it's not that powerful. I haven't gotten my hands on one yet, but it sounds like if they took out that 5th rocket I'd rather use my black box.

It was a slow burn as in the updates leading up to the F2P initiative I didn't care for either. And about the weapon designs - no, that's called laziness. Sweet of you to defend their laziness though, I'd think after putting out this many updates if it were the same people responsible they'd have a nice checklist in mind as to what's fucking acceptable for this game and this engine. I'm a fool for jumping ship on a game I've played to death when I realize they're going in a direction I simply don't care for? You're projecting.

@benjaebe said:

It needs a little balancing but it's not that bad. I still prefer the regular rocket launcher.I never tire of seeing people "give up" on TF2 after every single update and have recently started blaming all the new updates (which have been awesome, mind you) on the game going F2P.

Nice of you to state an observation you enjoy.. observing? If you're able to refute one's reasons for tiring of a game I'd love to hear it.

This game is finally turning sour for me :(

First off, I bet a balance patch is coming. Secondly, there were three rocket ships and the comic only depicted the finding of one, so there is speculation that there will be more weapons to balance it out. Though I agree that the cow mangler is OP as all hell, it will be resolved. 

I quit in December I believe. After amassing every Vintage hat, every special hat/promo, Every hat in game and 4 top tier unusuals lol.  
 
When I quit I sold them for around 2000$. I knew it was time to get while the getting was good. Noticed this update and read up on the weapons..  kinda saddened by it. This is just a really cheesy direction to take a once great game. Ah well we all leave it at some point.

Give me all your hats!

As soon as I saw that video I just had to jump in and make one of those for myself...

I think I might be missing the point.

@Akrid said:

@ColumnBreaker said:

@Akrid said:

Yay knee-jerk reactions... You're jumping to conclusions.

I'm not, though. While this last update certainly influenced my decision, if you read my post you'd know that it's been a slow burn. I don't think it's mere coincidence that the first substantial update they put out after the game is made free to play is also easily the most suspect update the game has seen. Balancing arguments aside, the rocket launcher and the projectiles it fires cause severe frame rate drops because the model itself is around 4000 polygons, and the projectiles are entirely made of particle effects that are clearly not optimized. Add on top of that the lackluster animations included with the update and I don't think it's wrong to be suspicious of Valve giving the update duties to a B team now that the game is free to play. A last effort to make some money with a 4 year old game and move important development resources elsewhere.

How the hell has it been a slow burn? This is the first weapon update since F2P and you immediately quit, assuming that Valve is trying to squeeze more money out of people. That's pure conjecture. As for the optimization, well, it's easy for a modeler to lose sight of those things when they haven't touched a shitty computer in years.

They fucked up the balance a bit, like they have oh so many times in the past. They'll fix it. You're a fool for jumping ship as soon as you see the wave. And as other people have stated, it's not that powerful. I haven't gotten my hands on one yet, but it sounds like if they took out that 5th rocket I'd rather use my black box.

It was a slow burn as in the updates leading up to the F2P initiative I didn't care for either. And about the weapon designs - no, that's called laziness. Sweet of you to defend their laziness though, I'd think after putting out this many updates if it were the same people responsible they'd have a nice checklist in mind as to what's fucking acceptable for this game and this engine. I'm a fool for jumping ship on a game I've played to death when I realize they're going in a direction I simply don't care for? You're projecting.

As someone who comes back to TF2 every few months, I'm kind of mixed about the updates. On the one hand, I love that they added the variety and I've never felt like I was at a huge disadvantage. On the other hand, sometimes I felt like I was underpowered and the system seemed to daunting to really bother with.  
 
With that said, I think I would much prefer to just find a good vanilla server and play there. The original game was great in my opinion, didn't need all the extras. 

This has been my experience with TF2 since it went Pay2Win, and after 5 back to back games tonight of the same stupid shit soldiers spamming those dam guns they bought  I think I'm done too.

Welp, one less dude to shoot in the face. Guess you'll go play that super-balanced stylish class-based shooter. What was that called again? Happy trails!

You'll be back, they always come back.

When they introduced the Huntsman, everybody and their cousin went Sniper and spammed arrows.
When they introduced the Chargin' Targe and the Eyelander, everybody and their mom went Demo Knight.
Now they introduce ray guns and every Soldier goes space marine.
 
It only seems overpowered because everyone is using it. It's not the first time something like this has happened. I mean, I got annoyed myself when everyone spammed that awful charging attack, but I have to admit, the weapon is not overpowered. If anything, it's underpowered. I played my bro's Medic last night while he went vanilla Soldier, and he totally tore those Commander Keen wannabes to shreds.

When they introduced the Huntsman, everybody and their cousin went Sniper and spammed arrows. When they introduced the Chargin' Targe and the Eyelander, everybody and their mom went Demo Knight. Now they introduce ray guns and every Soldier goes space marine.  It only seems overpowered because everyone is using it. It's not the first time something like this has happened. I mean, I got annoyed myself when everyone spammed that awful charging attack, but I have to admit, the weapon is not overpowered. If anything, it's underpowered. I played my bro's Medic last night while he went vanilla Soldier, and he totally tore those Commander Keen wannabes to shreds.

I just downloaded this game last night and I've had no problems with any guns being over powered.  Great game.

This rocket launcher just seems like a slower, weaker Direct Hit with unlimited ammo (and I rarely run out of ammo as Soldier anyway). Vanilla still owns for a lot of classes imo.