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Final Fantasy XIV Looks Better In Beta Than In Alpha

Get that alpha mess out of here! It looks like it was lit by a baby!

Jun. 28 2010

Posted by: Matt

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Edited By Belonpopo

Did we really need this video?

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Edited By Nephrahim

I hate to be in the "Is this news?" crowd, but...  a Beta looks better then the Alpha.  Woo-hoo?

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Still looks like an MMORPG.

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amazing 
 
every game in existence goes through this process, but with better results.

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Um, am I the only one who's going to point out that the Beta fight was much more involved and interesting than the Alpha one? It looks like there's quite a bit going on in combat, instead of standing still auto-swinging. That's a gigantic improvement from the FFXI formula. This game might actually have a chance.

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The combat looks absolutely abysmal, even for a MMO.  It's been well over a decade and right clicking on rats until they die still seems to be a MMO staple.

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@Tesla said:
" Looks shitty and incredibly boring. "
Just like every single MMO at first glance.
 
Gamers are such quick to judge whiny little bitches.
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Edited By lordofultima

Beta version has much better lighting.

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Edited By n8

this game looks disgusting.

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@MiniPato said:
" @Tesla said:
" Looks shitty and incredibly boring. "
Just like every single MMO at first glance.  Gamers are such quick to judge whiny little bitches. "
You're right, I need to sink hundreds of  hours and a few monthly fees into this before I can accurately judge it.  Or I can just realize that the Final Fantasy series has shit the bed and this game will be exactly like FF XI.
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I don't understand the point of this video.

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I don't trust the Japanese to be able to do interesting MMO combat.  They can only get it right in single player games every now and then.
 
I'd so like to explore your big crazy world, Square, but if you can't make your combat more actiony, I just can't justify the time spent there.

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Edited By MeatSim

Hey it looks like a MMO who could have guessed.

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@SteamPunkJin said:
" Fucking work it out with Microsoft already.  
 

@Donos

said:

" Look at our amazing ability to follow the standard development cycle! Our average pace of work clearly deserves your money!   Also of note, average  mmo combat system, average graphics, average game world. Where's the part where they make this in any way a better choice than WoW? "

FF is such a departure from WoW - having started with FF I found WoW unplayable, and downright terrible. Being different from WoW is enough, since every Free-To-Play and even Pay-To-Play MMO since WoW has been a direct copy of it. FFXI is already a lot more attractive than WoW, 14 will look gorgeous. MMO Combat isnt' gonna change - that's like asking for a new driving system in a racing game - it's part of the formula.   As for what makes it a better choice, that's simple: One Character. The Job system is what I love about FFXI and they're keeping it similar in FFIV - it eliminates the need to redo basic things; get a chocobo, get an airship pass, story missions etc all of these things stary with your character regardless of what job you're currently leveling or your level (although there are level requirements for some things). "
I had a hard time taking this seriously. FFXI does not look better than WoW. It looks like a PS2 game. Hell, you have to do external modifications to even get the game to run at a decent resolution.
 
However, I don't disagree that FFXI is different from WoW, but... I wouldn't say it's a good different. FFXIV does look good though, and I'll probably get it when it comes out, just like FFXI.
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@lordofultima said:
" Beta version has much better lighting. "
That's the only difference I could really see.
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@Belonpopo said:
" Did we really need this video? "
Well, the fact that they released a "woohoo look here!" video of a basic precomputed global-illumination texture baked into the world (greetings from 2001!) tells us a lot about how desperate they are. Also the fact that they didn't bother to edit that combat segment to look at least not cringeworthy mmo-ish.
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I just hope that this one is better than 11

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@Tesla said:
"Or I can just realize that the Final Fantasy series has shit the bed and this game will be exactly like FF XI. "
Not exactly. They added a V.
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Edited By Imbalance

Yep, that's an MMO. 

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Edited By bonbolapti

I am looking forward to this game. some of the comparisons are pretty meh, but at least I feel like I won't be put off by anything if I've already played XI

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Edited By Terrents

cool guys... but if it looked so bad in alpha why were you showing it in the first place?

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Edited By squidracerx

wow looks like a boring game!

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Edited By FLStyle

Yes yes very good now like me in the Beta already!

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THis game better support custom soundtracks on PS3. I don't want to listen to that shit MMO music for 5000 hours. 

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Look forward to trying this out.  FF11 was great.  This will be the first next gen MMO-RPG on console.
 
Hoping it forces Blizzard to announce their next MMO-RPG. Since they have a history of combating competitive MMO's with trailers and announcements.  
 
 

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Its still early, it will look better I am sure. I am excited this MAY BE the first MMO I ever play full time.

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Edited By Dizzyhippos

It does seem to be striking that mmo sweet spot between being pretty and being able to run on older computers. Now lets just hope they fix the brick wall of a learning curve from XI

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Please have a free to play model!

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I want this game. I put god-knows-how-many hours into FFXI (never played WoW). Don't really have the time, though. There's just too much good shit out there.
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Oh yay, more stupid cat people.

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All depends on the gameplay.

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Edited By D_O_A

Combat looks boring imo.  I will still pick it up and give it a go though.

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A game that looked gorgeous in alpha looks even more gorgeous in beta, nice.  This will probably be my next MMO of choice, as I hold a soft spot for FFXI still.  

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@Devil240Z: "That shit MMO music" is being entirely composed by arguably the best living video game composer (and one of the better current composers period) out there, you may be pleasantly surprised.
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@SoothsayerGB said:
" Look forward to trying this out.  FF11 was great.  This will be the first next gen MMO-RPG on console.
 
Hoping it forces Blizzard to announce their next MMO-RPG. Since they have a history of combating competitive MMO's with trailers and announcements.  
 
 
"
Blizzard doesn't really need to prove anything by showing off what Project Hydra is at the moment. But I do hope that whatever the new MMO's are bringing to the genre, Blizzard takes notice and at least pays attention to it's competition.
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@Devil240Z said:
" THis game better support custom soundtracks on PS3. I don't want to listen to that shit MMO music for 5000 hours.  "
Fucking jackass, that shit music is composed by one of the greatest video game composers of all time.   Nobuo Uematsu came back to the franchise specifically to compose the ENTIRE soundtrack of XIV, he also gave up the opportunity composing songs for 13 just because he was already working on this soundtrack.
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My character is gonna be Beta Beta

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lol holy fuck.  the combat is mind numbingly boring.  any MMO that can be played on a console is most likely not very fun at all.  

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lol the alpha looks way better.... you can actually see what's in the distance. the beta is all blurry. 
the lighting is not better, you can just see much less. wtf square.

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Guild Wars 2 ftw!

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@Valru: Oh give me a break. I dont give a shit who composed it. its gonna get boring after a while, you fucking retard. 
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A little lighting and some texture work can go some ways

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I can not possibly think of anything more f*ing boring than a Japanese Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game or a JMMORPGWTFBBQLAWLSZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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I think i still like Final Fantasy
but DO NOT WANT

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Edited By thenexus

A few people have partly covered all this but....
 
People here have been giving the Old Republics Graphics a hard time. Me and others who know better keep pointing out it is Alpha and a Video like this shows what jumps can occur from an Alpha to a Beta and optimisations and improvements from that Beta to Live and then from Live to improving it every month there still.
 
I would love to see someone make a WOW video like this. Go to the same places/do something as a video of Alpha and beta and then how it is in live today. Massive difference at each stage.
 
People did it for Warhammer as well, it was just to similar to WOW in a lot or respects to justify switching for a lot of players and with a few other issues why it never did so well BUT the graphics jump from Alpha to beta in that game was quite a bit.
 
Design or build something with graphics - Make it work, Get the elements of it in there. THEN make it look pretty.
Always has and always will be that.
 
Of course people have already mentioned that an MMO will never look Amazing as your stand alone game as it needs to share what is going on with a crap load of people non stop all day every day just about.

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Edited By Oy

Did that rat just do a jumping-backflip-tail-whip-attack?  I'm buying this.  (No not really).

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z z z z z z z z z z....

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Alpha also seemed to have some lower framerate than beta.
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INCREDIBLE NEWSFLASH: BETAS ARE BETTER THAN ALPHAS!! -__- gimme a fuckin' break...