Dawnguard’s Finally Out on PC, But PS3? Well...

The ps2 was a bad console to program for. Extremely weak, but it sold extremely well. So developers went out of they're way to develop for it. Even though the xbox was a good 2-3 times more powerful. Granted, morrowind never came out for ps2. Would've probably been worse than the shotty max payne or splinter cell ports.

But then this generation. The microsoft console techincally more powerful than the sony. Just as last generation. 1ghz core vs 3 3ghz cores, no amount of individual spus are going to make up for that 6ghz loss. But.....this time. Sales went away from sony. So developers are less apt to spend alot of resource money developing for it.

Sony better be smart this next generation, just partner with intel or amd. And just make it a muscle car. Put a v8-v10 in it, instead of putting a 3 cylinder geo metro engine and trying to turbo charge it by making it efficient.

@Cataphract1014 said:

@nomtank said:

Whelp, that settles it. I'll be switching to a gaming PC for the next generation of consoles. I'm sick of this garbage.

Get ready for horrible ports that can't run on your system that is 10x more powerful than the consoles.

Still PC exclusives make it for it 10x better

@nomtank said:

Whelp, that settles it. I'll be switching to a gaming PC for the next generation of consoles. I'm sick of this garbage.

Get ready for horrible ports that can't run on your system that is 10x more powerful than the consoles.

@Sooty said:

@Etnos said:

@Sooty said:

It's 2012, the PS3 has been out 6 years and this multi-million dollar studio still can't code for it yet.

Pretty pathetic.

yeah because you know the "ins and outs" of game development... Genius Internet People!

No I don't, because I am not a game developer and don't need to.

Are you stupid or something? Why would I know? Do I work at Bethesda or release games for a platform with millions and millions of players?

I think you know the answer. I wasn't insinuating that I know anything, merely that Bethesda are the only big name studio still botching PS3 versions of their games.

Consider these things before making little remarks!

You are incredibly whiny and aggressive.. look for psychiatric help buddy.

@Assirra said:

Dawnguard has to much grass probably.

I laughed. +11.33131 Bradbux.

...so it's like every other Bethesda joint?

Got it.

Dawnguard has to much grass probably.

I just dont understand why Sony cant go with more mainstream hardware. Its just such a waste. None of their hardware (CPU/GPU/Memory pools) have ever brought anything worth while to the table. They just cant seem to grasp that being developer friendly is hugely important.

Ugh. Still waiting on purchasing Skyrim-hopefully they'll have this all worked by the time they release the GOTY editions this Christmas.

Is this a tacit admission that their ps3 ports have been utter shit up to this point? I'm still rankled that You bombers gave a game that was 30% broken (because the ps3 v. was 100% broken) game of the year recognition.

I guess PS3 owners have to make the decision for them selves which would be worse, a stable game with no Vampire Lords or a game that is fucked like Marseillus Wallace but has crossbows. Tough call, but I admire Bethesda's Gumption. Thinking about it, they probably took M$'s deal originally hoping the extra month would be enough to wrap up the PS3 end. Well played, if I'm right.

I play skyrim on the ps3. This sucks, and it's lame that bethesda can't figure out how to use the ps3 like other top tier developpers have.. That being said, i hope they take their time to figure it out because skyrim was kinda broken on the ps3 and i'm in no rush . As long as the final product works, they can take all the time they need.

“We would like for everyone to have a chance to play Dawnguard, but we aren’t going to release it for PS3 knowing that some people’s experience in Skyrim will be worse. “

Funny they didn't do that with vanilla Skryim on PS3.

@Sooty said:

It's 2012, the PS3 has been out 6 years and this multi-million dollar studio still can't code for it yet.

Pretty pathetic.

Do you blame the people who have a hard time learning the difficult architecture that is used on no other platform (and strongly rumored to not be used in the PS4 because it's such a pain to use) or do you blame the people that decided to use that architecture?

It's like blaming people for having a hard time designing websites for Internet Explorer.

Should've done the same thing when the full game came out, and the GOTY edition of Fallout 3. Bethesda's games don't like PS3.

@GenocidalKitten said:

@Sooty said:

@Etnos said:

@Sooty said:

It's 2012, the PS3 has been out 6 years and this multi-million dollar studio still can't code for it yet.

Pretty pathetic.

yeah because you know the "ins and outs" of game development... Genius Internet People!

No I don't, because I am not a game developer and don't need to.

Are you stupid or something? Why would I know? Do I work at Bethesda or release games for a platform with millions and millions of players?

I think you know the answer. I wasn't insinuating that I know anything, merely that Bethesda are the only big name studio still botching PS3 versions of their games.

Consider these things before making little remarks!

You said it was pathetic that they haven't mastered coding for the PS3 yet so if you don't know the ins and outs of game development then thats a completely fucked statement.

You have NO idea why they might be having problems and neither do I so to say that they are "pathetic" is just stupid. Who knows there could be tons of reasons as to why they haven't got it right for the PS3 yet.

It is pathetic when they're one of the only (maybe even the only) developers shipping busted games for an extremely popular platform. It's not like Skyrim just had minor framerate issues on PS3, you can't just excuse it that easily as being a so-so port.

Bethesda drones gonna drone?

@ExplodeMode said:

Remember right when Skyrim was announced and the first thing everyone asked, 'Is it a new engine?'

Yup, we-didn't-Bugthesda straight up lied about the engine. It's still a piece of outdated crap of a Gamebryo engine that was conceived at the times of Morrowind. For all the flak CoD receives for using a engine from 2002...we-won't-Bugthesda does worse and still gets praised to high heavens. Games like Dark Souls are worth your money...Skyrim is a huge meh that's only worth $7.50 during a Steam holiday sale.

http://peter.corrosivetruths.org/2011/12/21/is-skyrims-creation-just-gamebryo/

I am still sad that Skyrim got GOTY here, Saints Row 3 deserved it more now that i look bad

Still <3 Brad, but damn Skyrim has already aged and playing it today is a complete chore. Meanwhile Saints Row 3 is just as funny and fresh as ever

Is it me or does paying 19.99 for the PC version feel... off. The availability of mods really changes things for me.

Boo, I was kind of hoping to play this soon, but I guess that won't happen.

I bought it on Steam yesterday; still haven't played it yet. What? I promise I'll get to it, get off my back!

Big deal, so you have to wait for it a bit longer.

These "exclusive early DLC" debacles need to stop. I don't know how much money is exchanging hands in these sorts of deals, but honestly its isolating half of your fanbase. You can't just show up a month later saying, "you still want this?".

And now, to add salt to the wound, this shit happens. As a PS3 owner (haven't experienced these "crippling" bugs at all), they've lost my purchase.

I feel for all the people who play Skyrim on PS3, I do, but as a PC player, I love that the new content came out. I loved Skyrim and this DLC looks alright.

I would have revisted this if I had played it on 360. Lesson learned. I am never going to play a newly released bethesda joint on PS3. Tho I must say I did not have any issues with New Vegas. I also played new vegas for 20 sometihng hours and not 80.

freaking cool!

They really should have just balled up, and apolagized for this one. Would have really helped their case. It's their fault that they wrote code that biases Xbox knowing that it was going to be a multiplatform release. It's not just pomp and circumstance like their making it out to be.

Argh! completely torn in half by this issue! On the one hand, the wait completely sucks, why should PS3 owners be the last to access the dlc? At the same time, if the delay means a better experience then I feel it could be totally worth it...Assuming it is an actual delay and not a Duke Forever delay

@jayjonesjunior said:

@Adaurin said:

I somewhat blame Sony for having such an obtuse platform that it sucks to program for. And I say this as someone who has a PS3 and not an xbox.

and yet we have games that look infinitely better than Skyrim running smoothly.

I think there is somewhere between these two. Sony has some great looking games on their platform. But it is also Sony's responsibility to have people who can come into developers and help them smooth things out with their games on ps3. Sony really needs a small team of devs from the first party who could help developers understand the way the ps3 works. It would help everyone involved. Its not that different than what companies who license out game engines do.

This is disappointing, c'mon Bethesda like the above users have said, by now you should know how to develop for the PS3

@Adaurin said:

I somewhat blame Sony for having such an obtuse platform that it sucks to program for. And I say this as someone who has a PS3 and not an xbox.

and yet we have games that look infinitely better than Skyrim running smoothly.

@Etnos said:

@Sooty said:

It's 2012, the PS3 has been out 6 years and this multi-million dollar studio still can't code for it yet.

Pretty pathetic.

yeah because you know the "ins and outs" of game development... Genius Internet People!

No I don't, because I am not a game developer and don't need to.

Are you stupid or something? Why would I know? Do I work at Bethesda or release games for a platform with millions and millions of players?

I think you know the answer. I wasn't insinuating that I know anything, merely that Bethesda are the only big name studio still botching PS3 versions of their games.

Consider these things before making little remarks!

By now, I have stopped giving a damn.

I'm beginning to ask myself "How much more slack can I cut Bethesda?" a bit too often these days. 

This is a good thing. Everyone was complaining that they should have held back the PS3 release when it was horribly broken last year. At least they learnt their lesson, and aren't going to screw PS3 owners over with a disastrous product.

@KaneRobot said:

Too bad the award wasn't presented as "Game of the Year (Except on PS3)" then.

Actually they specifically denounced the PS3 version in the GotY video.

"Skyrim had serious problems on PlayStation 3, however, which is why it technically wasn’t part of our Game of the Year award for Skyrim last year."

Too bad the award wasn't presented as "Game of the Year (Except on PS3)" then.

Not that it was really the game of the year on any system.

Remember right when Skyrim was announced and the first thing everyone asked, 'Is it a new engine?'

Play the game the way it was meant to be played.

On a PC.

Whatever, I'll go get Dawnguard right now.

@Szlifier: There's alot of multiplatform games that are fine on the PS3, Bethesda is a huge company and have all ready had 2 other games + dlc on the PS3, so its not like the are totally new to the architecture of the PS3. Theres really no excuse. Other than the cynical one: they can see the PS3 version probably sells the worst and they have a deal with MS. So they can't really be bothered with the PS3 version.

Who didn't saw this coming? The PS3 is the weakest link in today's consoles, even if it's the most powerful machine and, to my opinion, has the best I.P., it still has the worst multi-platform titles due to its dev kit being, according to people, the hardest to code.

People should know what they're getting into by buying a PS3 as their only home console.

@Szlifier said:

@iAmJohn: It took years for them to figure it out. These companies use Unreal Engine and Frostbite for their games, mutliplatform engines that drive many games. They have to be good, it's in Dice's and Epic's interrest. They give complete tools to their cutomers, this makes development on multiple platforms much, much easier.On the other side you have Bethesda with their own engine. They make huge games, this takes time. I imagine there is little time to work on the engine. P.S. Treyarch? Really?

Oh it took them years, did it? Not like Bethesda would've had any practice with Oblivion, or Fallout 3 (which was also fucking broken), or New Vegas...

And yeah, Treyarch, because the PS3 version of Black Ops was pretty okay and close to the other ones, because Treyarch is a company that learns, unlike Bethesda. I could also throw Platinum into that mix as well considering Vanquish led on PS3 and was slightly better on it.

Whatever. I would rather play a slightly broken game than completely broken game. I can wait.

It must be in such a state that every time someone at Bethesda is fires up the PS3 version of Dawnguard, the PS3 explodes. Because that would be the only explination why Bethesda was perfectly happy to release the PS3 version of Skyrim in it's pre-alpha state, but waits to release Dawnguard because they're not happy with it

I still find it strange they are having this much trouble with the PS3. I played Oblivion on the PS3 which was better then the 360 version mostly due extra time they had on it. I also experienced almost no issues with my launch PS3.

Then I played Fallout 3 on my PS3. Which at the time I think PS3 was considered to be the less buggy console version. Think it suffered from some worse performance issues in the late game but the 360 had more quest/game breaking bugs. I also played that on my launch PS3 with pretty much no issues.

I have since switched to PC gaming. So it really seems weird to me that they are now terrible at making PS3 games. My vanilla PC experiences of Oblivion and Fallout 3 were fairly comparable to the PS3 experience as far as stability is concerned.