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Fallujah Developers "Badly Wounded" By Layoffs

But Six Days is still alive, according to brief statement.

Citing an inability to find funding for Six Days in Fallujah, the controversial shooter project that Konami announced and dropped earlier this year, developer Atomic Games has cut some positions. This probably explains yesterday's story from GamesIndustry.biz's Phil Elliott, which stated that the game's creative director, Juan Benito, was out.

Here's the full statement from Atomic:

Due to a mixture of fears about the edgy subject matter of Six Days in Fallujah, as well as low videogame sales this summer, we have been unable to secure full-scale funding from a major publisher for Six Days in Fallujah. This has caused us to reduce the size of our studio today.

In the words of Marine officer Chesty Puller, "We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem." Development at Atomic will continue with a smaller team that will be funded by our sister company, Destineer. 

We wish to assure the dozens of Marine veterans who have collectively invested hundreds of hours in this project that, while we have been badly wounded, we will fight on. The stories of your brothers' courage and sacrifice in Fallujah must be shared with the world.

All of the 75 people in the Atomic studio have stayed with us until this week. This is a testament not just to their commitment to Six Days in Fallujah, but also to their character when faced with adversity and personal financial risk. We encourage videogame development studios wishing to speak with the many talented and loyal staff who are affected by this situation to contact the jobs page on the atomic.com web site.

You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war. But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it? Jeff Gerstmann on Google+
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Posted by Jeff

Citing an inability to find funding for Six Days in Fallujah, the controversial shooter project that Konami announced and dropped earlier this year, developer Atomic Games has cut some positions. This probably explains yesterday's story from GamesIndustry.biz's Phil Elliott, which stated that the game's creative director, Juan Benito, was out.

Here's the full statement from Atomic:

Due to a mixture of fears about the edgy subject matter of Six Days in Fallujah, as well as low videogame sales this summer, we have been unable to secure full-scale funding from a major publisher for Six Days in Fallujah. This has caused us to reduce the size of our studio today.

In the words of Marine officer Chesty Puller, "We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem." Development at Atomic will continue with a smaller team that will be funded by our sister company, Destineer. 

We wish to assure the dozens of Marine veterans who have collectively invested hundreds of hours in this project that, while we have been badly wounded, we will fight on. The stories of your brothers' courage and sacrifice in Fallujah must be shared with the world.

All of the 75 people in the Atomic studio have stayed with us until this week. This is a testament not just to their commitment to Six Days in Fallujah, but also to their character when faced with adversity and personal financial risk. We encourage videogame development studios wishing to speak with the many talented and loyal staff who are affected by this situation to contact the jobs page on the atomic.com web site.

You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war. But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it?
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Posted by wiII

Put the damn stories in a book and call it a day.  A First Person Shooter is not the medium to tell that story.  Jeff is right on with that last comment.

Posted by super_machine

The just need to change the focus of the game. Turn the US Marines to Space marines, and the Iraqis to Zaltrons and call it Six days in Zaltronia. Problem solved, controversy over.

Posted by chigaco

Damn. This game looks awesome by the way.

Posted by Yagami
@wiII said:
" Put the damn stories in a book and call it a day.  A First Person Shooter is not the medium to tell that story.  Jeff is right on with that last comment. "
Fucking word man!
Posted by Bigandtasty

I feel bad that these people are having a hard time selling their game (regardless of how controversial said game is), but this press release is pretty ridiculous.

Posted by Death_Unicorn

Tru dat, Jeff.

Posted by ArbitraryWater

This game is never coming out.

Posted by atomic_dumpling

These guys start to sound like a bunch of demagogues.

Posted by stinky
@wiII: was going to say the same.
Posted by natetodamax

"We wish to assure the dozens of Marine veterans who have collectively invested hundreds of hours in this project that, while we have been badly wounded, we will fight on. The stories of your brothers' courage and sacrifice in Fallujah must be shared with the world."
 
It will be such a shame when the game comes out (if it does) and it gets negative reviews. These guys will have wasted their time.

Edited by TwoOneFive
- "You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its  
-experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the 
Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war.  
-But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it? "   

 
Dude come on. They weren't comparing themselves to actual Marines in war. Thats ridiculous. 
Posted by RelentlessKnight

That's a pretty hefty, "badly wounded" to describe it

Posted by sealog444

 
To it cheapens fallen soldiers memories to play it in a game.  The basic premise is flawed, games are meant to be fun, war is not. war is the dirty, nastiest thing on this planet, and to take real stories and play them as a game while we are still fighting the same war is beyond stupid.    Hope it never comes out as it

Posted by RHCPfan24
@TwoOneFive said:
" - "You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its  
-experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the 
Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war.  
-But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it? "   
 Dude come on. They weren't comparing themselves to actual Marines in war. Thats ridiculous.  "
No, Jeff has a good point there. While the company may not have directly intended on making a juxtaposition between their business struggle and the hell of war, they chose their words in this press release (which is reviewed before being released) and this is the vibe that it is giving off. The words are pretty tasteless and I can only hope that the company didn't truly mean to say them.
Posted by TwoOneFive

I'm getting really tired of all of this bitch ass sounding reactions to this game and this studio. Since when did everyone get so touchy feelly..  
And why is it always NON-US military that gets all up and arms over what is and isn't politically correct (eg. them saying they're studio has been badly wounded). I assure you, as someone with lots of family in the military, and as one who will be in the service very soon, it is not offensive or tasteless at all. They are developing a fucking war game, I think they are allowed to use metaphors related to war.  
 
What if the game kicks ass, and does a damn fine job at honoring the men who fought in that battle??? Then what will people say?

Posted by TwoOneFive
@RHCPfan24 said:
" @TwoOneFive said:
" - "You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its  
-experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the 
Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war.  
-But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it? "   
 Dude come on. They weren't comparing themselves to actual Marines in war. Thats ridiculous.  "
No, Jeff has a good point there. While the company may not have directly intended on making a juxtaposition between their business struggle and the hell of war, they chose their words in this press release (which is reviewed before being released) and this is the vibe that it is giving off. The words are pretty tasteless and I can only hope that the company didn't truly mean to say them. "
its only giving you that vibe because you want it to seem that way and because jeff said it. Its a totally harmless phrase and to thin they're actually comparing people being laid off to the horrors of war is just fucking ridiculous.  I could name a hundred phrases developers of games like SOCOM and Call of Duty series use to explain things and nobody would give a shit. You guys are acting "offended" simply because the entire premise of this game is controversial to begin with.  

Look I know this game is probably going to suck but come on guys, give it a break. 
Posted by RHCPfan24
@TwoOneFive said:

" @RHCPfan24 said:

" @TwoOneFive said:
" - "You know, the whole "badly wounded" bit feels a little tasteless to me, as if the company is somehow comparing its  
-experiences in sitting safely behind desks and thinking about war to the 
Marines that were out, you know, fighting said war.  
-But then, that vibe sort of fits the entire project, doesn't it? "   
 Dude come on. They weren't comparing themselves to actual Marines in war. Thats ridiculous.  "
No, Jeff has a good point there. While the company may not have directly intended on making a juxtaposition between their business struggle and the hell of war, they chose their words in this press release (which is reviewed before being released) and this is the vibe that it is giving off. The words are pretty tasteless and I can only hope that the company didn't truly mean to say them. "
its only giving you that vibe because you want it to seem that way and because jeff said it. Its a totally harmless phrase and to thin they're actually comparing people being laid off to the horrors of war is just fucking ridiculous.  I could name a hundred phrases developers of games like SOCOM and Call of Duty series use to explain things and nobody would give a shit. You guys are acting "offended" simply because the entire premise of this game is controversial to begin with.  Look I know this game is probably going to suck but come on guys, give it a break.  "
Well, it still doesn't change the fact that the words they chose were poor. And there is difference between this type of game and say Call of Duty or SOCOM because of the real events it depicts. It is controversial but I have stated previously that I would actually like to play this and I have a belief that this could be half-decent.  It probably won't, but I have hopes.
 
As for the "its only giving you that vibe because you want it to seem that way and because jeff said it" line, I am not sure what you mean there. First, I read the statement and thought of the poor word choice first thing, on my own accord. I don't know if they meant it or not but when they are talking about a game based on a true battle that is being assisted by real Marines who fought in it, a term like "badly wounded" is not going to fly well when referring to layoffs. Not one bit. Also, about the "Jeff" thing, I hope you don't mean that I am just following the crowd or what Jeff said blindly. I have had many disagreements with Jeff in terms of news, reviews, opinions, etc. I happen to believe this one. There are a few people here who will take whatever a staff member here says and consider it gold and sacred. I am not one of those people. I think they are awesome dudes, but hey, they are only human. I just happened to agree with him this time around. 
Posted by wiII
@TwoOneFive said:

" I'm getting really tired of all of this bitch ass sounding reactions to this game and this studio. Since when did everyone get so touchy feelly..  And why is it always NON-US military that gets all up and arms over what is and isn't politically correct (eg. them saying they're studio has been badly wounded). I assure you, as someone with lots of family in the military, and as one who will be in the service very soon, it is not offensive or tasteless at all. They are developing a fucking war game, I think they are allowed to use metaphors related to war.   What if the game kicks ass, and does a damn fine job at honoring the men who fought in that battle??? Then what will people say? "

I don't think the issue for most people has been this touchy feely stuff you talk about.  For me, it's just that my Bull Shit detector has been going from the beginning and I don't like Bull Shit.

The issue is the "Hypocrisy" that this game gave off from the beginning.  The game was announced as having this never been done before in game emotional solider' story (they really over did it with that first press release),  then preview footage comes out and its seems like a basic FPS even with recharging health (every out let I read said very basic FPS).   Then they come right back with a line like "The stories of your brothers' courage and sacrifice in Fallujah must be shared with the world", only to immediately use Badly wounded as a play on words to describe themselves. 
Edited by DRE7777

I have one question. Why the hell are the makeing this a GAME. 
 
First of all the game is most likely going to suck, because games of this nature are never truely good Games. It might have a moving story, but thats not gonna make the game fun. So why not leave the real life stories to be told where they're supposed to be told, in a movie or a book.
Posted by Akeldama
@ArbitraryWater said:
" This game is never coming out. "
this is probably the case
Edited by Chris

What kind of sick-headed idiot is going to write a press release comparing game development to being involved in a war? 
 
Military lingo in press releases is FAR more obnoxious than "gamer" lingo... good riddance to bad rubbish.

Posted by LaszloKovacs
@ArbitraryWater said:
" This game is never coming out. "
Let's hope this is the case.
Posted by mzuckerm

Games are an art form.  At Giant Bomb, I would expect people to get that (especially Jeff).  I don't see why people has such a problem with a game about Fallujah being made.  Is it the fact that people actually died fighting in this battle?  Well, so did people in World War II, but some of the best games involve that as a subject (and Nazis may be the greatest video game enemy of all time).  Is it because it happened so recently?  I don't see why video games can't be timely.  I think that will only expand the impact of the game.  Is it because we suspect the game content will be in poor taste?  Why?  We don't even know how the game is going to play.  No one would judge a painting by a few brush strokes early on, so why are we insisting on doing the same here?  This is shades of the FoxNews coverage of Mass Effect.  Do we really think this is going to be less tasteful than, say, Postal, or any number of other violent games?
 
Maybe this just exposes the biases of the writers.  War in Europe, good.  War in Iraq, bad.  I don't really have any answers here, I just don't get it.

Posted by Waffles13
@mzuckerm said:
" Games are an art form.  At Giant Bomb, I would expect people to get that (especially Jeff).  I don't see why people has such a problem with a game about Fallujah being made.  Is it the fact that people actually died fighting in this battle?  Well, so did people in World War II, but some of the best games involve that as a subject (and Nazis may be the greatest video game enemy of all time).  Is it because it happened so recently?  I don't see why video games can't be timely.  I think that will only expand the impact of the game.  Is it because we suspect the game content will be in poor taste?  Why?  We don't even know how the game is going to play.  No one would judge a painting by a few brush strokes early on, so why are we insisting on doing the same here?  This is shades of the FoxNews coverage of Mass Effect.  Do we really think this is going to be less tasteful than, say, Postal, or any number of other violent games?  Maybe this just exposes the biases of the writers.  War in Europe, good.  War in Iraq, bad.  I don't really have any answers here, I just don't get it. "
I don't think they find the premise all that terrible, Jeff just seems to be pointing out that a game developer is comparing a lack of financial backing to being wounded in a war.
 
And you are right, there is some bias of making a game based on a recent battle compared to one over 60 years ago. Is that fair? No. But I'd hazard a guess that no one reading this site was involved in WWII in any way, so no one is going to get touchy feely about it. But then again, most WWII don't go for a real emotional connection with actual, real life soldiers, so it seems like Six Days is just setting itself up for all this criticism.
Posted by georgecletus

I must say that I love the conversation this game is bringing. At least people are thinking about how this next step into the game world is going to be made.

Posted by JakJ
@LaszloKovacs said:

" @ArbitraryWater said:

" This game is never coming out. "
Let's hope this is the case. "
Why so, asshole? I for one still want to play it.
 
If they really are as committed as they seem to be to showing us lazy, spoiled, and often bratty gamers what that battle was like, what those brave Marines went through, I am all for it. Anyone who has a problem with the game should just shut up and not buy it, instead of "hoping" that those of us who aren't closed minded and are interested in the game and its subject matter never get a chance to play it.
Posted by GhostStrykre
 @DRE7777 said:
" I have one question. Why the hell are the makeing this a GAME.  First of all the game is most likely going to suck, because games of this nature are never truely good Games. It might have a moving story, but thats not gonna make the game fun. So why not leave the real life stories to be told where they're supposed to be told, in a movie or a book. "
a good question i must say, but truly think about it. What do movies, books, and Video Games all have in common? they're entertainment. so to say that you resist this game simply because it would be "tasteless" to entertain yourself with such a story would be contradictory to say that it is, however, satisfactory to watch the story told in a movie where you would be just as "tastelessly" entertained. 
i personally think i will better understand the gravity of what happened in Fallujah even better after playing a video game of it. why? because rather than lazily sit back and watch events unfold before my eyes in a movie/book, i would be placed in a situation where i would have to make decisions like those made in Fallujah. risk the safety of civilians at the cost of your men, living those choices changes everything i think. this is my opinion, and i think this game needs to be published. 
 as for the use of lingo like, "wounded," i don't think its a big deal. their company took a huge hit when they got dropped by Konami, and since Marine Corps Veterans are so intertwined with the development process of this game, i think it justifies the use of such a word. im from a big military family with a lot of service years in the Air Force, Navy, and Army; and i can truthfully say i didn't find the "wounded" word so distasteful.. once again, my opinion.
Edited by Jimbo

I had a lot of time for this game originally, but the entire tone of this press release fucking disgusts me.
 
Further to what Jeff said, paragraph 3 is just completely unnecessary - the Marines that worked on it could have been updated privately - and it just smacks of trying to twin their cause with the Marines' to garner public sympathy.  
 
I had no problem with them suggesting a game could be a viable medium for telling this story - I have a huge problem with them acting like they're the only people that can tell it and that they're somehow the last best hope for Marine vets everywhere.
 
If this is the level of class and dignity they would have brought to the story, then I'm glad their telling of it will never see the light of day.
 
Edit:  And it ain't just a random war metaphor they've used; the entire release is crafted to give the impression that their current position is somehow analogous to the Marines in Fallujah.

Posted by TangoAlphaLima
@sealog444 said:
"

 
To it cheapens fallen soldiers memories to play it in a game.  The basic premise is flawed, games are meant to be fun, war is not. war is the dirty, nastiest thing on this planet, and to take real stories and play them as a game while we are still fighting the same war is beyond stupid.    Hope it never comes out as it

"

Okay... so I guess you've never played a Call of Duty game or any other war-based FPS?  Either that, or you're a hypocrite.
 
I don't really understand the fervor over this game.  It's only due to the fact that the events in the game are recent history.  Nobody has ever complained about a WWII game.  Sure, most WWII games aren't taking exact stories from the war, but they do often lean heavily on accurate depictions of real events from the war (Stalingrad, anybody?).  Heck, in the realm of TV, Band of Brothers followed the real stories of men who fought in the war. 
 
If done right, this game could prove to be pretty compelling.  There's no reason to fear it because of the politicized nature of the Iraq War.  Like it or not, it happened, and there is a story to tell there.  Video games can accomplish it just the same as any other medium.
Posted by LaszloKovacs
@JakJ said:
" @LaszloKovacs said:

" @ArbitraryWater said:

" This game is never coming out. "
Let's hope this is the case. "
Why so, asshole? I for one still want to play it.  If they really are as committed as they seem to be to showing us lazy, spoiled, and often bratty gamers what that battle was like, what those brave Marines went through, I am all for it. Anyone who has a problem with the game should just shut up and not buy it, instead of "hoping" that those of us who aren't closed minded and are interested in the game and its subject matter never get a chance to play it. "
I like how you're calling me an asshole because I think a low-budget video game from an inexperienced team about controversial subject matter is a bad idea.
Posted by MrKlorox

Chesty Puller? Nah, that can't be a real name.

Edited by Keyser_Soze

Hahaha clever title, Jeff. Still support the Iraq war I see. Oh well, that's your decision. Over 7 million out of jobs in the US and counting since the Great Recession started, thanks to unnecessary spending and debt.
 
Funny how shit has a habit of coming around and biting you on your ass.

Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro

I can't wait for the 'Bombing of Dresden' game. Or how about 'Katyn Forest Survival'?

Posted by bshirk

If they actually did make a game on the Iraq "war," I hope they'd at least detail the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians who were harmed in addition to making an effort to show the lives of an actual soldier.

Posted by Brockly46
@LaszloKovacs said:
" @JakJ said:
" @LaszloKovacs said:

" @ArbitraryWater said:

" This game is never coming out. "
Let's hope this is the case. "
Why so, asshole? I for one still want to play it.  If they really are as committed as they seem to be to showing us lazy, spoiled, and often bratty gamers what that battle was like, what those brave Marines went through, I am all for it. Anyone who has a problem with the game should just shut up and not buy it, instead of "hoping" that those of us who aren't closed minded and are interested in the game and its subject matter never get a chance to play it. "
I like how you're calling me an asshole because I think a low-budget video game from an inexperienced team about controversial subject matter is a bad idea. "
agreed
Posted by Out_On_Bail

If they really gave a shit about telling these marines story they'd write a fucking book. They just want profit, stop being so blind to that.  I hope this game never comes out, it's already inaccurate because Marines were not the only ones there.  Real war, and Fallujah, is not a fucking video game. Who wants to play a game with no respawns? You die, game over.  No starting over, your dead. How can a video game properly reflect the feeling you have as a soldier or marine when you find out your Sergeant Major got killed by a sniper? Please, all you 'vets' out there that seem to be so educated about war, tell me how a video game can show these emotions.

Posted by Media_Master

not surprised

Posted by TermlessHalo

Are we ever going to see this game?

Posted by Jolt92
@termlesshalo:
Probably not, but I wish we could.
Posted by mordukai
@termlesshalo said:
" Are we ever going to see this game? "
Fuck! i think you just won the Giant Bomb Bump of The Year award. 
Posted by KimChi4U
@MrKlorox said:
" Chesty Puller? Nah, that can't be a real name. "
I was just looking through this thread to see if anyone else picked up on that. You, sir, are both my hero and an acknowledgement that I'm not the only demented person here.
Posted by LordAndrew
@Mordukai said:
" @termlesshalo said:
" Are we ever going to see this game? "
Fuck! i think you just won the Giant Bomb Bump of The Year award.  "
There's gotta be a bigger bump somewhere this year. And I really can't blame someone for adding a comment to a year-old news story. Who's going to notice? On any other site, no one. On this site, everyone.
Posted by HubrisRanger

Holy Necro-post Batman! 
 
To answer your question, that is totally up to if there is any Publisher willing to pick up the project. Atomic Games is still good to go, but are currently working on Breach. Y'know, to keep the lights on. But if that game is successful, it might be enough to convince publishers to try it, controversy to be damned.  
 
On the likelihood-o-meter though, I'd say this is pretty low on ever reaching daylight.

Posted by mordukai
@LordAndrew said:
" @Mordukai said:
" @termlesshalo said:
" Are we ever going to see this game? "
Fuck! i think you just won the Giant Bomb Bump of The Year award.  "
There's gotta be a bigger bump somewhere this year. And I really can't blame someone for adding a comment to a year-old news story. Who's going to notice? On any other site, no one. On this site, everyone. "
Hey man, i'm all for it. If you feel like you have something to say then the age of a thread really does not matter. it was actually weird he added that comment when he did because I was just thinking about that game. I don't understand how people made so much fuss about this game when they let a game like Medal of Honor out. What I mean is that people made fuss, was on the news for about two weeks and then it was gone. i guess it seems EA has bigger balls then Konami and are willing to stand behind their games. I really hope someone picks this game because we need games that talk about current issues. For the most part i feel disjointed from most FPS games as not many will try to tackle present issues. 
Posted by LordAndrew
@Mordukai: Aside from playing as the Taliban in multiplayer though, Medal of Honor didn't do much to gather controversy. But EA caved in and changed that anyway.
 
I doubt Atomic is willing to compromise in this case. They make the game they want to make, or they don't make the game at all. No middle ground, no letting anyone else tell them what they can and can't do. And Konami couldn't handle that. I doubt there are many publishers that would. EA caved into pressure with Medal of Honor, and I'm sure they would have caved if they were Six Days in Fallujah's publisher as well. They don't want to deal with this kind of controversy. Maybe they'll be able to find a publisher that is willing to deal with it, but it doesn't look likely.
Posted by Ragdrazi

Every time they pitch this game and every time they advertise it, if it ever does get made, the word they need to use is "documentary." It is a war documentary, and it should be made.

Posted by HubrisRanger
@Ragdrazi While I agree with that in premise, I also feel that for thsi reason alone, it makes the fact that game had a multiplayer element superfluousness and ill-advised at best, and at worst trivializing the actual cost of war. Documentary-style games can and should be a valid direction for games to go (check out the awesome looking the cat and the coup), but you have to be careful with how you approach it, because if it looks and smells like "just another modern military shooter with the hook of being set in real events", then your game isn't special or set apart, its an insensitive cash-in.
Edited by Ragdrazi
@HubrisRanger: Ok. A decision to include multiplayer seems like a bad idea. But the thing you have to understand is that Fallujah was a game put into motion by Atomic Game's military advisers who had just come back from Fallujah. They wanted Atomic Games to tell their stories. Their own personal stories. I would agree that you could still appear to be "set in real events," but that element, the fact that you are playing along side actual people in their actual stories, I think, really sets this apart.
 
And the cat and the coup looks amazing, if designed a bit too artistically.
Posted by TermlessHalo
@Mordukai said:
" @LordAndrew said:
" @Mordukai said:
" @termlesshalo said:
" Are we ever going to see this game? "
Fuck! i think you just won the Giant Bomb Bump of The Year award.  "
There's gotta be a bigger bump somewhere this year. And I really can't blame someone for adding a comment to a year-old news story. Who's going to notice? On any other site, no one. On this site, everyone. "
Hey man, i'm all for it. If you feel like you have something to say then the age of a thread really does not matter. it was actually weird he added that comment when he did because I was just thinking about that game. I don't understand how people made so much fuss about this game when they let a game like Medal of Honor out. What I mean is that people made fuss, was on the news for about two weeks and then it was gone. i guess it seems EA has bigger balls then Konami and are willing to stand behind their games. I really hope someone picks this game because we need games that talk about current issues. For the most part i feel disjointed from most FPS games as not many will try to tackle present issues.  "
Why is everyone mad at me?!! *runs away crying to his room* But no for real. The real reason was that I wanted to know if there ever going to relase this game? Like you said maybe Konami did not have the balls to stand behind the game. Like with EA's Medal of Honor. But also look at the other games that took place in different time-lines. Like WW 2 games in CoD 2 and 3. Or Vietnam type of games. But you don't see a lot of people getting upset at those games. But they get upset with this game.