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Jeff's Thoughts On Those Spike TV Awards

In which I am negative about all of television but also negative about people complaining about television even though I am complaining about television and... OK, it's a complicated issue. I still think that parts of Spike's broadcast absolutely work as intended.

Please allow me a moment to convince you that I, too, love the video games. No, seriously.
Please allow me a moment to convince you that I, too, love the video games. No, seriously.

I don't watch a lot of television. Oh, I certainly spend quite a bit of time staring at TVs, but the standard offering that comes in through my DirecTV dish doesn't really hold a lot of sway over my life. It used to not be this way, of course, but then, our choices for entertainment used to be a lot narrower. These days, I tend to spend that entertainment time in front of a computer screen, and the rise of Netflix's streaming service and DVRs means that I can afford to let people sort of "beta test" actual television and pick the best of it to watch later. Or, at least, that's the basic idea. In reality, I never actually get around to watching most of the shows that get recommended to me unless it's comedy written in a very specific style. I still haven't watched The Wire, for example, despite buying DVDs full of episodes. But after seeing one episode of it, I sought out, recorded, and watched as much Jon Benjamin Has a Van as the law would allow.

I suppose you could take that to mean that I have pretty specific tastes, but I'm really just taking the long way around to tell you that I don't have an especially high opinion of television programming. It's hard to describe that without sounding like I'm some sort of elitist snob, but I don't take too kindly to the way much of it is presented. If you'll allow me to further generalize, television feels like it's being presented to the lowest common denominator, with much of it being written by people who seem to have absolutely no respect for the people who might later go on to watch these shows. Parts of Spike TV Video Game Awards broadcast sort of reinforce my feelings on the medium, which is too bad, but ultimately I didn't really expect it to go much differently. The restrictions in place when producing a show like this almost ensure that, as one of those Internet-loving assholes who inherently distrusts marketing and finds most TV to be ironically enjoyable at best, the deck for liking such a show is sort of stacked against me.

Or to put it yet another way, did you really think that a show put together by the production company that brought you shit like Survivor, The Apprentice, and Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader? was going to offer you a quiet, introspective look at video games and the creative minds behind them? Did you really think that a show built in that way would ever air on Spike TV?

Did that guy buy that baby from that lady? I forget why this is here. Oh, right! The production company behind the awards worked on
Did that guy buy that baby from that lady? I forget why this is here. Oh, right! The production company behind the awards worked on "hits" like The Apprentice!

Maybe I should add a bit more to that list of obvious questions. Like how about... do you really think that award shows are great to begin with? Because the quiet, respectful show that people seem to be begging for across the Internet this morning usually comes across as two things: BO and RIIIIIING. Back when I was living with a crew of college girls, I was induced into going to an Oscars Party. It was insane! They were dressing up all nice specifically to hang out in our living room and watch the Academy Awards! Afterwards we made it out to a bar and I think the night ended with a couple of us trying to eat a cake that had fallen on the floor. That's beside the point. My point is that traditional awards shows are unfuckingwatchable. The only awards broadcast I ever really connected with was MTV's Video Music Awards, which was fascinating when I was a kid, mostly because it was a weird chance to see modern pop stars of the 1980s mingling together, but really because it was a live broadcast and I was always interested in seeing people swear on live TV. Did the awards themselves matter back then? Not really. I mean, yes, they almost certainly mattered to the people winning them and, to some extent, the industry behind those people. But as a viewer, I was tuning in to see an entertaining show. This, as far as I can tell, is the blueprint that the VGAs are operating under. They probably want to produce an entertaining show that people will watch, and if they can celebrate games along the way, then great! Right?

The problem is that I just don't think they're executing well enough on the entertainment side.

I think most of the blame for that falls squarely in the laps of the people responsible for writing the show. The gags, some of which tried to trade off of standard gaming tropes like health meters and such, fell flat. It had a recurring bit about teabagging that wasn't funny the first time around, making all of the callbacks spread throughout the show almost painful. Some cursey YouTube guy got brought into the fold and turned into another lame bit where he sat next to some Spike executive. Am I supposed to know or care about who either one of those guys are? An award winner got teabagged. So irreverent, right? From a comedy perspective, the closest the entire production got to being on the pulse of gaming was when Daniel Kayser spit out the whole "arrow to the knee" thing before talking to Todd Howard during the preshow. Sadly, that whole thing seemed to have set some sort of record for fastest time from "this is funny" to "this is tired," so the reference ended up being like two days too late or something insane like that. Then again, the Internet continually proves that it's mostly good at complaining about things, so I guess that shouldn't be used as a barometer.

Kojima's finale would have worked a lot better if the Metal Gear Rising trailer didn't leak ahead of time. But the Fortnite announcement remained a surprise.
Kojima's finale would have worked a lot better if the Metal Gear Rising trailer didn't leak ahead of time. But the Fortnite announcement remained a surprise.

The "talent" side of things didn't really help, either. You know... I'm sure getting Charlie Sheen to show up seemed like a really fun idea six months ago. But wow, could there have been a more miscalculated choice? At least his obligatory "games are awesome" bit wasn't as embarrassing as Will.i.am's, who sounded like he was trying to justify his presence with every word out of his mouth. Here's a tip on that front: games are huge. Billion-dollar huge. Going out of your way to talk about how much you play them--and this extends to the host being consistently billed as a "huge gamer," too--makes you look like you've never played one in your life. Or, at best, it makes you look like one of those "well, I really like the Call of Duty and the Madden" types, which is probably worse if you're trying to get actual game aficionados on-board. Obviously, this is a pretty hard problem to fix because finding an array of people that actually connect with the gaming audience is tough, especially when said people need to be big enough stars to hopefully draw in a wide enough viewing audience to make the whole show worth doing to begin with.

With better writing, I think the rest of the show absolutely falls in line, though I tend to agree that not enough time was given to the awards themselves. That's probably a pretty tough thing to balance out. Also, this is probably the part where I should state that I'm one of the judges that helps pick nominees and winners for many of the award categories, so perhaps I have some sort of hidden interest in seeing my contributions get more airtime or something. But if you're going to put "Video Game Awards" right in the title, burning through the bulk of them in a quick montage seems completely disingenuous. But I suppose it's harder to get people on-board if you were to title the show "World Exclusive Mania: Game Trailers You Ain't Seen Before: The TV Show." It's telling that the online-only pre-show did much better at giving out awards and letting developers speak for a bit than the entire two-hour TV broadcast.

Super-glad this is finally getting made.
Super-glad this is finally getting made.

That leaves the exclusive trailers, weirdly enough, as the part of this show that absolutely shines. Say what you will about the advertising-like nature of releasing a bunch of trailers and giving them better placement than the actual awards, but it gives the VGA broadcast some actual content--some actual news is made at the show every year. That doesn't happen at other awards shows. As someone who professionally talks about the video games, it's nice to actually have something new to discuss in December, which is usually pretty dead. Without this award show, that wouldn't happen, and games like Command & Conquer: Generals 2 would probably go on to get lost amid a sea of bigger announcements at E3. And Tony Hawk HD would get announced in a press release, at best. This show is a good platform for those announcements. It just needs to be better balanced with the actual awards.

It's the morning after the live broadcast, and I'm sure that the people that watched last night's show are full of wide-eyed, unrealistic ideas about how they would "fix" the show. I've offered mine, and I think the people behind the scenes really do get closer to finding the right balance every year. But maybe the right approach for those of you who seem to get filled with total outrage over all this is to stop treating this awards show like it's the only game in town and remember that this is an industry where every individual publication offers their own version of the year's best games and the industry itself has places like GDC and DICE where the speeches run wonderfully long and the jokes are 100% inside. There's room for all of it. Hell, if anything, there are probably too many different sets of awards out there! But I guess my point is that you shouldn't expect an increasingly dated medium like television and its desire to speak to the wide, mainstream audience that is slowly blinking out of existence to provide a good home for this idyllic awards show you've cooked up in your head. Because they've got soft drinks (FOR MEN ONLY) to sell.

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I just couldn't stand that they were going award after award before commercials. I think as an Award show they should present the award to the producers/developers in hand. and not just show 4 people getting awards.

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"Internet continually proves that it's mostly good at complaining about things."

Jeff and the internet have a lot in common!

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@Gordo789 said:

"Internet continually proves that it's mostly good at complaining about things."

Jeff and the internet have a lot in common!

Self-awareness is not his strong suit.

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I watched enough of the show to figure out that Felicia Day is terrible, fake John Krasinski is terrible, and Spike TV is terrible. Also this reply is terrible and you are terrible for reading it.

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award shows have always been dumb

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I'm really glad I read this. I think Jeff's right that people act as thought the VGAs are the only show in town. However, to a degree, they are. Like it or not, the VGAs are THE representation of our favorite medium's "best" games outside of the internet, magazines, and the occasional cover art reading "10/10: Game Informer". I think it's somewhat appropriate for us to be upset when games are misrepresented on the biggest stage they have. It would be like if the Oscars were all references to Meet the Fockers and Transformers.

The DICE summit and the AIAS awards are a step in the right direction but even among major "gamers", they're relatively un-heard-of.

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The VGAs voted MW3 as the best shooter. That's what did the show in for me.

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@hbkdx12 said:

@BitterAlmond said:

People who actually follow the industry (or, even better, work in it) don't much care for it, but we all understand that it's an important thing in order to keep video games going as strongly as they are. I don't watch the Spike VGAs, and I don't like them, but I am very glad they exist.

Why are you glad that they exist when it's complete bullshit? Even a respectable dev like Cliffy B even said so in a tweet. If the show is there to help market games and offer debut trailers and otherwise entertain on a rather simplistic and juvenile level then fine, so be but let it be that. Don't try to suggest it's something more when it really isnt

I'm glad they exist because they do just what you said: they help market games. If you were to draw a Venn diagram of Spike's core fanbase and video gamers, I doubt there would be much overlap. The show helps the industry as a whole by promoting video games and increasing sales in demographics that wouldn't normally buy games. So what if it's "bullshit?"

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@BitterAlmond said:

@hbkdx12 said:

@BitterAlmond said:

People who actually follow the industry (or, even better, work in it) don't much care for it, but we all understand that it's an important thing in order to keep video games going as strongly as they are. I don't watch the Spike VGAs, and I don't like them, but I am very glad they exist.

Why are you glad that they exist when it's complete bullshit? Even a respectable dev like Cliffy B even said so in a tweet. If the show is there to help market games and offer debut trailers and otherwise entertain on a rather simplistic and juvenile level then fine, so be but let it be that. Don't try to suggest it's something more when it really isnt

I'm glad they exist because they do just what you said: they help market games. If you were to draw a Venn diagram of Spike's core fanbase and video gamers, I doubt there would be much overlap. The show helps the industry as a whole by promoting video games and increasing sales in demographics that wouldn't normally buy games. So what if it's "bullshit?"

Because the same result would come if they just labeled the show as a video game expo or something similar where all they did is showcase upcoming games. If they wanted to make it particularly interesting, they could still have devs show up and give insight in their own games as well as other games they saw. I dunno. Something. Then breaking up the monotony with stupid stuff like bobbing for cupcakes wouldn't seem so ridiculous. As it's all a means of entertainment and good fun. 
 
But to label the whole thing an award show to honor and give recognition to developers and such and essentially do none of that and just have it turn into a crap shoot of a spectacle is absurd. I feel like a good route to take would be to have an award show that creates some kind of transparency into the developers and the video game industry as a whole. For example, Naughty Dog has behind the scenes featurettes on both Uncharted 2 and 3 about their process for making those games. Imagine if they had 3 minute segments like that from different devs sprinkled throughout the show that showcases them working on/giving their thoughts about their most notable title for the year.
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@hbkdx12 said:

@BitterAlmond said:

@hbkdx12 said:

@BitterAlmond said:

People who actually follow the industry (or, even better, work in it) don't much care for it, but we all understand that it's an important thing in order to keep video games going as strongly as they are. I don't watch the Spike VGAs, and I don't like them, but I am very glad they exist.

Why are you glad that they exist when it's complete bullshit? Even a respectable dev like Cliffy B even said so in a tweet. If the show is there to help market games and offer debut trailers and otherwise entertain on a rather simplistic and juvenile level then fine, so be but let it be that. Don't try to suggest it's something more when it really isnt

I'm glad they exist because they do just what you said: they help market games. If you were to draw a Venn diagram of Spike's core fanbase and video gamers, I doubt there would be much overlap. The show helps the industry as a whole by promoting video games and increasing sales in demographics that wouldn't normally buy games. So what if it's "bullshit?"

Because the same result would come if they just labeled the show as a video game expo or something similar where all they did is showcase upcoming games. If they wanted to make it particularly interesting, they could still have devs show up and give insight in their own games as well as other games they saw. I dunno. Something. Then breaking up the monotony with stupid stuff like bobbing for cupcakes wouldn't seem so ridiculous. As it's all a means of entertainment and good fun. But to label the whole thing an award show to honor and give recognition to developers and such and essentially do none of that and just have it turn into a crap shoot of a spectacle is absurd. I feel like a good route to take would be to have an award show that creates some kind of transparency into the developers and the video game industry as a whole. For example, Naughty Dog has behind the scenes featurettes on both Uncharted 2 and 3 about their process for making those games. Imagine if they had 3 minute segments like that from different devs sprinkled throughout the show that showcases them working on/giving their thoughts about their most notable title for the year.

Hey, not all award shows are great, nor are many presigious. Just look at the Razzies.

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I'd rather watch Conan or Kimmel (hell, is Jimmy Fallon around still?) have a 2 hour special that show all the clips (trailers), have a few interviews with some developers, see ONE "wacky" stunt, have deadmaus play us in and out of commercials, and the Black Keys play in the last segment. ... or just leave it alone & I'll just PVR it and skip to the vids like I have in the past.

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Interesting diatribe. I think that your thoughts are pretty dead on about everything. I am sure that we just have to wait a little while longer and something like DICE or GDC might get some mainstream play.

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God I hate Spike TV.

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I don't see how this awards show for video games is any different from the usual mentality of the Tech Sector's (private sector's) parties and conventions. E3 and even your own "Big Big Live Show" (or what ever it's called) are no less "debauched," unless... it's because its not exclusive to your community, thus "not better" than your (the private sector's) own version of "self celebration." This article is only an example of how "out of touch" the wealthy (or privileged/gainfully employed) increasingly are, with us struggling regulars, with the 1% worrying about how it is depicted. Our tea bagging is better than the kind that Spike TV slapped together, for us. What I find interesting is that business goes on as usual in, uh... so-called "enlightened" areas like San Francisco. But we all know 4chan, adbusters and Anonymous and so forth are "buddies" looking to solidify the increasing class(/social caste) gap through trite efforts to destabilize (/or annoy rather) Western Civilization. There's nothing to see here. See you all at PAX!

(two cents spent).

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I watched the VGA's once. I'm not sure who they were targeting but it wasn't me so I haven't watched or even thought about them since.

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Back when I was living with a crew of college girls,

How in the hell did you pull THAT off?

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This guy should have hosted it, at least then somebody would have called Charlie Sheen out on being a complete and total crazy.

I wonder how much the host was allowed to deviate from the script, if at all.

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Leave video game awards to websites and people that actually care about the medium.

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Well said G-man, well said...