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John Romero's Making a New Shooter

DOOM's co-creator returning to the genre he helped popularize.

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It's been more than a decade since Daikatana, but John Romero is returning to shooters. On Joystiq's most recent podcast, the DOOM co-creator revealed his future plans.

Romero didn't divulge many details, but said the shooter is among "several" games he's working on right now.

And hey, while we're at it, maybe we can convince Tom Hall to start working on Anachronox 2.

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@video_game_king said:

Hopefully, he's learned something from the Daikatana advertising campaign. Especially given today's cultural climate...

He didn't even want that advertising back then. It was all due to "miscommunication" with the guy running PR. Also he had some very innovative ideas with Daikatana for the time. The problem was that he thought he could do it with a development team made up of inexperienced modders. I think it will be interesting to see what he comes up with. If he will just try to cash in on nostalgia or actually do something interesting.

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The end times are nigh!

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I wish I could care. I love the games that he used to help make, but that was 20 years ago and I just don't have the heart to give a shit about anything this man's done in the recent past (other than being in that Text Adventure documentary a while back).

Yeah, so weird that anyone would actually get excited about this announcement. Being an old man, I remember his exuberant descriptions for the original quake announcement and how that game wasn't anything like he was describing. I've always felt his contributions to ID were much less important than people generally give him credit for and, as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't made any significant contributions to gaming since he left them.

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@humanity: From the top of my head, I think he was the design lead. Several people at id had a go at levels in the main game, but Romero had some of the more memorable ones?

Something like that.

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This is more of a question than an accusation, but wasn't Romero mainly responsible for the level design in Doom?

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Last time he said this it was about Severity. Remember that? That competitive shooter being made by for pro-gamers? Remember? No? Ok.

Well I hope this works out anyway...

Yes.

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And...yes.

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Last time he said this it was about Severity. Remember that? That competitive shooter being made by for pro-gamers? Remember? No? Ok.

Well I hope this works out anyway...

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Maybe when he's done with that he can come to the aid of id and get Doom out the door.

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@nicholas said:

If Stevie Case, Romero's ex-wife, isn't involved: no sale.

How about Stevie Nicks?

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Anachronox was a pretty damn interesting game. It wasn't perfect by any means but there was still something very unique about the way it played. AndI absolutely love its world and characters and where the story goes. I'd never go as far as to say that it's one of my favorite games, but it's still underrated and something I'd like to see a really polished remake of.

My opinion on Daikatana is what you'd expect of a sane human being.

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Anachronox 2 hype!

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@hailinel: I agree with you. I just worry that after all this time, the only thing he can manage is something tropey that won't sell, since the "genre he helped form" has become a cess pool of people only buying and playing games similar to what they have.

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It certainly intrigues me that he’s back in the game, if it is what we are all thinking; a big budget thing on the platforms that we care about.

But I have never seen him do anything big "on his own". Turns out, all the big ones have a perfect explosion of the right talents at the right time behind them.

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Hey guys but WHAT IF his new shooter has native Oculus support?

and WHAT IF Carmack were to assist in making it perfect

and then they remember how well they used to work together and are reunited to make a new game and it's like all if my fan fiction but real I need to lie down

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A washed up guy who hasn't impacted the industry positively for almost two decades is working on another game.

Yeah, that's newsworthy.

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I'M READY JOHN! I'M READY! MAKE ME YOUR BITCH JOHN!

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Good for him.

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Goddamn it I got robbed on "suck it down".

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I'll admit that I'm more interested in a new Anachronox (even if it's a PK invention) than an new JR shooter...

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Another shooter is the least interesting thing he could do

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I will believe it four days after it happens.

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@j23 said:

@video_game_king said:

Hopefully, he's learned something from the Daikatana advertising campaign. Especially given today's cultural climate...

John Romero's gonna make you his consensual sexual partner. You know, if you're okay if it. It's cool if you're not, John's not going to get pushy on you.

I mean nothing you're not comfortable with y'know. Wanna just cuddle for a bit and watch netflix? okay that's cool, sure.

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DAIKATANA 2

FINALLY

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I wish I could care. I love the games that he used to help make, but that was 20 years ago and I just don't have the heart to give a shit about anything this man's done in the recent past (other than being in that Text Adventure documentary a while back).

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I hope he knows how to make a game this generation will play. Take Duke Nukem for example, people that made games back then make a game that was popular back then.

Additional references would be the New Twisted Metal game.

The problem with Duke Nukem Forever (well, one of them, at any rate) was that the game was built on fourteen years of disparate ideas by a development team headed by people that didn't know how to lock down a list of features. It was as much a managerial failure as it was a design failure. Feature creep is the worst enemy of all software projects, and it took over DNF like the Venom symbiote.

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I hope he knows how to make a game this generation will play. Take Duke Nukem for example, people that made games back then make a game that was popular back then.

Additional references would be the New Twisted Metal game.

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I've got some cool imagery for the main character.

It's the Devil, isn't it. You play as the Devil.

And the antagonist:

CYBERDEVIL

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@hailinel said:

@video_game_king said:

Hopefully, he's learned something from the Daikatana advertising campaign. Especially given today's cultural climate...

In fairness to Romero, that campaign wasn't entirely his idea. That was Mike Wilson, apparently (the same jackass responsible for the stunt where people in chicken suits jumped on stage during the VGAs to steal the mic from Ken Levine).

Fun fact: The very first Quicklook was for the game Legendary and Mike Wilson was commentating it.

Fun fact: He sounds exactly like the type of person that would come up with that promo for Daikatana

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I hope this is a hint at returning to work on Doom, remember that check in a few weeks back at ID...

I doubt this but I want Romero to be successful.

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Hopefully, he's learned something from the Daikatana advertising campaign. Especially given today's cultural climate...

In fairness to Romero, that campaign wasn't entirely his idea. That was Mike Wilson, apparently (the same jackass responsible for the stunt where people in chicken suits jumped on stage during the VGAs to steal the mic from Ken Levine).

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Protip: The FPS game is Doom

To be serious, he has started an FPS game a number of times since Daikatana, I think one time he even got as far as mentioning the name, but he has never finished one. I'll believe it when I see it

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Yeah I'm not sure how you could possibly compare somebody's death to another person going back to making video games...

But anyway, good for him if he's returning to something he enjoys doing. Hopefully something good will come out of it.

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My computer is crying. It doesn't want the Devil's new game.

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Hopefully, he's learned something from the Daikatana advertising campaign. Especially given today's cultural climate...

John Romero's gonna make you his consensual sexual partner. You know, if you're okay if it. It's cool if you're not, John's not going to get pushy on you.

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The tragedy we experienced today was given a new lease on life. RIP Robin Williams and amazing to see John Romero going back to his roots.

Even if this was a joking comparison of events, this is still not a sentence that any possible reality would EVER FUCKING IMAGINE.

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I gambled on taking this avatar years ago. It's finally going to pay off.

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I remember Daikatana, wasn't very well received. It's been a long time since then and a lot has changed in the industry. Does Romero have what it takes to make a game in 2014?

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@steveurkel: You need to read Masters of Doom if you think Romero was the primary force behind Quake.

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@nardak: ... I kinda do, just to see what it would be.

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It better have Satan in it, or hella pentagrams.

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The tragedy we experienced today was given a new lease on life. RIP Robin Williams and amazing to see John Romero going back to his roots. I'm sorry but Doom and Quake are still hands down the best two video games on Earth. It is debatable if Quake 3 is better than Quake but Quake had Team Fortress and nothing was better than QuakeWorld Team Fortress (the TF2 babies have no idea what they missed!) and the best most skilled Death Match made. Rocket Arena for Quake 3 is second to Team Fortress for QuakeWorld.


This man and his team have made video games the way they are. Daikatana was a game and Ion Storm was a company and that is in the past, as is his legacy at ID Software.

Great news!!! Please be Quake 3 Arena remade in 2014. Just like include everything we haven't seen in the past decade+ for amazing gameplay/shooting/Quake.

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Several games kinda sounds like phone games.

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I played Daikatana for the first time this week. It's not THAT bad with the fan 1.3 Patch.

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Daikatana 2...you know you want it...

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I'd pay a LOT of money for another Anachronox.

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JOHN ROMERO ISNT GONNA MAKE YOU HIS BITCH

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Arise from the developers grave!