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Norwegian Retailer Indefinitely Bans 'Violent Video Games,' Even Though No One Asked

Coop Norway takes 51 games off shelves, including Modern Warfare and World of Warcraft.

Ever since it came to light that Anders Behring Breivik, the psychotic killer who murdered more than 70 innocent people in Norway last week, happened to have a penchant for video games--chief among them World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, which he ludicrously claimed helped "train" him for the attack--the games press has been on perpetual night watch for the first sign of some kind of knee-jerk legislative attack on video games. Let's face it: we've been conditioned to react with defensive aplomb every time someone thinks video games are to blame for anything. I suppose we can all thank the Jack Thompsons, Keith Vazs, and Fox News' of the world for our constant, Pavlovian "Come at me, bro!" reactions to these sorts of things.

Violence! Sort of! I guess...
Violence! Sort of! I guess...

Thankfully, despite a bit of blowhard lobbying from reactionary political groups, no governments have made any significant moves to try and curtail violent game sales to those who are of the proper age to purchase them. However, that hasn't stopped one retailer in Norway from pulling 51 'violent' titles from their store shelves, including all Call of Duty titles still in circulation, Homefront, Counter-Strike Source, and World of Warcraft.

Coop Norway's decision to remove the games was purely at the behest of the company itself, and done in "consideration for those affected" by the attacks, according to an interview with a company spokesman in the Norwegian newspaper Rogalands Avis (as reported by VG24/7).

"The decision to remove the games was made around the time we realised the scope of the attack," he said. "Others are better suited than us to point to the negative effects of games like these. At the moment it's [appropriate] for us to take them down. I wouldn't be surprised if others do the same."

While this company's decision to do what it feels is respectful to the victims and their families is entirely within their rights, the fact that a title as generally benign as World of Warcraft is being pulled off shelves solely because of Brevik's apparent fondness for it strikes as a slightly reactionary measure. World of Warcraft currently commands a T-rating on North America's ESRB scale, as well as a 12 rating on Europe's PEGI ratings board.

Still, Coop Norway seems resolute in their desire to keep these games off shelves for the foreseeable future.

"We have to think very carefully about when to bring these goods back. The economy involved is of no importance."
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@lacke said:

@fisk0: He said "think $59.99". Because using straight conversion rates are pretty dumb in these cases because prices, salaries and taxes are different. Unless you just made a joke, in which case, it's still stupid. :P

Yeah, sure, there's the 25% VAT, and Norway being one of the richer countries in the EU certainly means the have higher salaries, but 599 NOK is expensive for a game either way, which is kind of the reason people don't buy games at Coop, when you can buy the same games for around 399-499 NOK on web stores or even at GAME. Or for that matter, import from Amazon UK where the prices are about half of those scandinavians have to pay.

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@LordCmdrStryker said:

@soulfulsoul said:

I have enjoyed video games ever since I was about 5 years old. But I can't fully support the side of video games here. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if violent video games negatively affect SOME people. Especially now that graphics are so realistic . Not that violent games should be banned, I'm just arguing that perhaps they should be handled a little more carefully. Years ago a relative of mine around the age of 10 came over and played Halo on my XBOX, which caused him to laugh like an absolute maniac as he shot aliens, and over the half hour or so that he played he almost went into some sort of crazy violent frenzy. It was bizarre and frightening to experience his transformation..

Dude, 10 years old? I think I'm a pretty good judge of character and there's no way in hell I'd let a 10-year-old play any first person shooter. And that's only because at that age they haven't fully come to realize the consequences when you do something dumb. Also, "crazy violent frenzy?" We're talking about Halo here, and not A Clockwork Orange.

Well the fact is that many 10 year olds get their hands on games like Halo. I know I definitely played violent games when I was 10, though they really don't compare to today's most violent games like Call of Duty F.E.A.R. or Grand Theft Auto. I played games like Mortal Kombat, a bit of one of the early Police Quest games, and the first Metal Gear. By that age I had also seen movies like Die Hard, RoboCop, and Terminator 2. I was a little hesitant to let him play, but he said he had played it many times at a friend's house before, and I figured that the violence is pretty cartoonish. He really was affected by it though. His violent frenzy did not mean that he went around town killing people, but he did strangely enjoy shooting the aliens,  and became more and more worked up the longer he played. It was ridiculous.  
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@imsh_pl said:

@snusorten said:

This is just a reaction to the horrible shootings, I for one think its a nice thing to do, imagine you just lost your kid to mad man with a gun. Then your going to the grocery store and the fist thing that meets you is a shelf full of covers with dudes and guns.

If someone needs a game, just go somewhere else.Its just a way of showing respect.

You don't really see film companies pulling their blockbuster action movies out of the cinema screens, do you?

No, mabye the should, some do have guys with guns. But if you see at for the sellers POV movies dont put you in the posision of a person shooting down people, so I can see why they are removing them and putting them back up when some time has gone.

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Platekompaniet and Coop Obs. Well no loss there. Game and Gamestop are still the biggest chains over here.

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@Castiel said:

@Dany said:

@Kyreo said:

This will only encourage piracy.

Uhm..quite a leap in logic huh?

Oh please don't ruin Kyreo's shallow excuse for illegal downloading.

Haha... I'm not in Norway and I have both Steam and Gamefly, so I have no need for piracy. :]

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@snusorten said:

This is just a reaction to the horrible shootings, I for one think its a nice thing to do, imagine you just lost your kid to mad man with a gun. Then your going to the grocery store and the fist thing that meets you is a shelf full of covers with dudes and guns.

If someone needs a game, just go somewhere else.Its just a way of showing respect.

You don't really see film companies pulling their blockbuster action movies out of the cinema screens, do you?
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That is why you don't make decisions right after a tragedy.  No thought just emotions.

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I think the people who like blaming comic books, movies, video games, certain genres of music, etc. fail to remember that deranged psychopaths existed prior to these things.

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@fisk0: He said "think $59.99". Because using straight conversion rates are pretty dumb in these cases because prices, salaries and taxes are different. Unless you just made a joke, in which case, it's still stupid. :P
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What, nobody's made a Suda 51 joke yet? I am disappoint.

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This reminds me of what happen in the UK when Stephan Lepark was murdered and his mother when on the "Lets ban Manhunt" witchhunt which lead to HMV, Virgin, Game, Gamestation and other retailers banning selling it. The fact that the game was actually Stephan's game and not the killers was quickly overlooked by the Fail and his mother. 
 
The simple thing is everyone needs a villain and a scape goat so the media in the desire to create a media fear factor will look towards what ever is the popluar form of entertainment at the moment. In the 1970's it was movies, 1980-2000 music and 1994 onwards video games. As a good example the Sun run by Slimecorp has on the front page "person killed by Xbox" as there headline blaming a young 20 years death by DVT on Xbox.

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@Tiwi said:

well... Coop is a grocery store. it's disappointing, but it's not actually a big blow.
it's not even a electronic shop. they sell stuff like tomato sauce. why are we caring again?

Edit:
http://coop.no/ Here take a look. had something like Elkjøp or expert stopped selling games I would care but Coop? I've never bought a single game. this is just a charade to stop their game selling, because they're not earning any money on it. It's all economically motivated.

You mention Expert; Remember when they refused to sell Grand Theft Auto and other games because they didn't fit into their "family profile"? The comments then were also something like "who buys games at Expert anyway, let's go to x!"

@Chabbs0 said:

Note that they aren't blaming video games for the killings, merely don't want people shooting people for a while in videogames.

Once again though it's the games media that gets the negative focus. Let's not mention how we watched movies, like the rest of us, I'm sure they had violence in them because that's our world today. There's TV, News media, books, music. He prayed, a lot, should we stop new people from attending church for a while? No, because that'd be ridiculous since people need their own brand of comforting. Well video games is a great comfort to some as well. There were Scientologists in the streets of Oslo that day, offering "talks" and free thetan massages to those who might be in turmoil and seeking "answers" after the disaster struck. Activision was not in the strees trying to sell anything. Ramble ramble mutter..

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Although they're mostly intended to be summer blockbuster rollercoaster rides, the CoD/Modern Warfare games have begun to scare me a bit with their relentlessly bleak and implicitly conservative world view (i.e. the world is full of lying war-mongering bastards and only a few hardened (mostly English-speaking) macho men have what it takes to save the day etc.). Given the series' enormous user base, I wouldn't be surprised if there are confused and impressionable kids out there which, at the very least, happen to take this kind of bombastic storytelling just a little bit too seriously...

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I'm a Finn and a couple of years back there were a couple of school shootings over here and the media tried to make a connection between video games and these mass murders, not by stating any actual causal relationship, but by simply suggesting that "they played video games and they murdered people" as if people should draw the "obvious" conclusion. The only conclusion to be made, however, is that young men play video games. That a few sad souls resort to these terrible violent outbursts is statistically insignificant. It's the same with this Norwegian case.
 
Whatever the motivation behind the act, it will never bring back the dead. Brevik has claimed his actions were politically motivated. If that is the case, all I can say is how sorry I am that some people fail to take a rational approach to politics and somehow manage to convince themselves that harming innocent people is righteous.

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You don't make anything better by punishing the people who have done nothing wrong. Anything happens these days and the solution is to cram as much legislation up its ass as possible or make some stupid arbitrary decision like this.

And it is absolutely a tragedy what happened, but how the hell does taking video games off your shelf stop psychopaths from doing whatever they want to do?

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@Mats said:

What I find strange is that nobody here in Norway are talking about stopping weapon sales as well or for that matter fertilizer. Go figure the logic.

Norway, like the rest of Scandinavia, will do a thorough assessment of the gun laws after this, so much has been said by politicians so far. I do think Norway and Finland are the countries with the most liberal gun laws of the Nordic countries, and so far these are the ones that have faced the most violent shootings, but you should probably not make try to make that link to causal, as both Denmark and Sweden have just narrowly evaded terrorist attacks and shootings in the past, probably more due to pure luck (there was a suicide bombing attempt in Sweden's capital Stockholm last year, that only seemed to fail due to the bombs detonating prematurely, resulting in only him dying, while only being a street corner away from the most popular shopping street in the city) than the availability of weapons.

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@EgoCheck616 said:

@snusorten said:

This is just a reaction to the horrible shootings, I for one think its a nice thing to do, imagine you just lost your kid to mad man with a gun. Then your going to the grocery store and the fist thing that meets you is a shelf full of covers with dudes and guns.

If someone needs a game, just go somewhere else.Its just a way of showing respect.

Who the fuck would buy Call of Duty at a grocery store? This example makes no sense.

Because COOP is a grocery store chain. And chill out, many parents would buy a game at the same place where they do the weekley shopping.

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@snusorten said:

This is just a reaction to the horrible shootings, I for one think its a nice thing to do, imagine you just lost your kid to mad man with a gun. Then your going to the grocery store and the fist thing that meets you is a shelf full of covers with dudes and guns.

If someone needs a game, just go somewhere else.Its just a way of showing respect.

Who the fuck would buy Call of Duty at a grocery store? This example makes no sense.

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@alexl86 said:

Coop and Platekompaniet are two of the most expensive places to buy games. Our local Coop Elektro (electronics branch of Coop) sells games for NOK 599 (think $59,99) or above, and the prices practically never drop, and they almost never have what I'm looking for. I buy all my games online now. I get the games I want, for a much more reasonable price.

Your NOK conversion rate is way off. 599 NOK is more like $110.

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What I find strange is that nobody here in Norway are talking about stopping weapon sales as well or for that matter fertilizer. Go figure the logic.

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This is just a reaction to the horrible shootings, I for one think its a nice thing to do, imagine you just lost your kid to mad man with a gun. Then your going to the grocery store and the fist thing that meets you is a shelf full of covers with dudes and guns.

If someone needs a game, just go somewhere else.Its just a way of showing respect.

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@Norwaydude: Well, cooperatives are a relic of the 19th century socialist movement (& one of the best ones that sadly gets over-looked in favour of more extreme Marxist-Leninist derivitives).  They aren't capitalists at all.
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@TheDudeOfGaming said:
@Catolf said:
*sigh* it has begun huh? Sorry Norway gamers..
Pirate bay is your only answer now, don't worry, no one will point the fingers at you for using it....in this, the time of crisis. 
WHAT! What the heck are you talking about. No this does not make piracy ok. JUST BUY IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
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Fucking pathetic. Just because ONE psycho killer happened to play WoW and Call of Duty.
   
Old people know nothing of videogames. And often it's older christian people who judge videogames.
 
The younger generation seems far more intelligent than the older generation it seems.

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@Catolf said:
*sigh* it has begun huh? Sorry Norway gamers..
Pirate bay is your only answer now, don't worry, no one will point the fingers at you for using it....in this, the time of crisis. 
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Coop sux for one and also he listened to a band during his killingspree and they got banned from being played on the radio.. THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO REACT! Det är synd om Norge men Coop Norge är fan dumma i huvudet.

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@soulfulsoul said:

I have enjoyed video games ever since I was about 5 years old. But I can't fully support the side of video games here. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if violent video games negatively affect SOME people. Especially now that graphics are so realistic . Not that violent games should be banned, I'm just arguing that perhaps they should be handled a little more carefully. Years ago a relative of mine around the age of 10 came over and played Halo on my XBOX, which caused him to laugh like an absolute maniac as he shot aliens, and over the half hour or so that he played he almost went into some sort of crazy violent frenzy. It was bizarre and frightening to experience his transformation..

Dude, 10 years old? I think I'm a pretty good judge of character and there's no way in hell I'd let a 10-year-old play any first person shooter. And that's only because at that age they haven't fully come to realize the consequences when you do something dumb. Also, "crazy violent frenzy?" We're talking about Halo here, and not A Clockwork Orange.

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It's not 51 games though. It's 51 items, that include 8 games (and, as far as I have heard, toy guns).

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@gale: Well said.

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@pepsimaxofborg said:

Guys, I'm from Norway, and this is fucked up.

Anders also ate bread and took showers, I don't think Coop has any plans on dropping these products from their shelves.

Nicely said.
Videogames are always act as a fall guy with attacks by individuals when there is a tenuous link between them and videogaming.
Glad to see the government ignoring this. Such a horrific event is being used by this shop as a political ploy and to receive free advertising, that is what's wrong.
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I have enjoyed video games ever since I was about 5 years old. But I can't fully support the side of video games here. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if violent video games negatively affect SOME people. Especially now that graphics are so realistic . Not that violent games should be banned, I'm just arguing that perhaps they should be handled a little more carefully. Years ago a relative of mine around the age of 10  came over and played Halo on my XBOX, which caused him to laugh like an absolute maniac as he shot aliens, and over the half hour or so that he played he almost went into some sort of crazy violent frenzy. It was bizarre and frightening to experience his transformation.. 

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Coop and Platekompaniet are two of the most expensive places to buy games. Our local Coop Elektro (electronics branch of Coop) sells games for NOK 599 (think $59,99) or above, and the prices practically never drop, and they almost never have what I'm looking for. I buy all my games online now. I get the games I want, for a much more reasonable price.

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@CosmicQueso: This has nothing to do with Norway as a whole. This is one stupid retailer who still is run by people who have no idea what video games are. The Norwegian government has stated nothing but more openness in the society after these attacks as being the solution needed. I suggest you have a look at the rose-marches that happened around Norway for the real response that was uttered.

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Guys, I'm from Norway, and this is fucked up.

Anders also ate bread and took showers, I don't think Coop has any plans on dropping these products from their shelves.

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@S0ndor: That they're trying to cash in on the tragedy by drawing attention to the store is quite likely, but most/all norwegians I know won't give a shit about a store trying to appeal to our (fundamentalist) "christian values".
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when will people realise crazy people will always be crazy with or without video games

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Wasn't the guy killing people because he was Christian and the government were letting too many Muslims into the country. Sounds like Religion should be banned rather than games

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The economy involved is the only reason they are doing this. It's free publicity. They are just going for the holier-than-thou image in the hopes that it will draw in more customers. 
 
Self-righteous hypocrites assemble! Milk that attack for all it's worth boy. 

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You all shouldn't really worry, most people in Norway never go to a Coop-store in order to buy games. I'll assume families go there and pick up games for their kids, in which case they wouldn't get these games anyway. Our actual game stores said they didn't really see the connection between the killer and games.
Edit: I forgot about "Platekompaniet", which is actually a games retailer. So I guess you all should probably worry a little bit!
 
I liked the response of one of our grocery store-chains better, where they turned our biggest news papers front to back because they keep putting the killer's picture on the front page. We've seen enough of that guy by now, thank you very much, I'm pretty sure we'll remember his face if he ever gets out.
http://img.ly/6KVp

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@CosmicQueso: One video game retailer=all of Norway. Good job Cosmic.
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Good thing they removed World of Warcraft. Otherwise there would be thousands of trained Gnome assassins in Norway.

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Coop sell food and have a bunch of insurance options in the UK. 
 
There's one near my house. They're overpriced.

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They understand that Breivik was playing WoW? You could make pathetic, dumbass jokes about the connection with the attacks, but I think is pretty Goddamn clear to everyone video games WEREN'T a factor in this man's insanity.

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Let the censorship begin....

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I was not aware they sold games in Coop stores, I work at one part time and we don't sell any games.

Not a big deal.

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I wanted to move to Norway to hunt trolls, but now that my troll hunting simulator is removed from store shelves I will reconsider. 

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