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So I Spent A Few Hours With Forza Motorsport 4...

Forza 4 might not be filled with a ton of huge surprises, but that didn't make my time with it any less exciting.

I think this Pringles car is from Forza 2. I spent a lot of time bidding on Pringles cars back then and I DON'T EVEN LIKE PRINGLES ALL THAT MUCH.
I think this Pringles car is from Forza 2. I spent a lot of time bidding on Pringles cars back then and I DON'T EVEN LIKE PRINGLES ALL THAT MUCH.

One of the first things I saw as I explored a pre-release version of Forza Motorsport 4's storefront system was a a vinyl set made to look like the head of the Pringles guy. You know, the little mustache face guy that's on the cans? Right then and there, I knew Forza 4 was going to be totally fine.

I'm honestly not sure where the Pringles thing comes from. It was one of the first vinyl groups I saw in Forza Motorsport 2, I think. It carried on to Forza 3, and... I don't know, is it some sort of weird in-joke in the Forza community? Is one of Turn 10's long-timers a fan of canned chips? It's a mystery that someone should probably solve someday. But as I only had a few hours to sit and take in the early parts of Forza 4, that person isn't me. At least, not yet.

Forza Motorsport 4 probably isn't going to shock you if you're already familiar with the series' past. The cars look great, the tuning setups are well-explained, and the game is primarily structured to feed you events that fit with the cars you currently own. If you're driving a stock Honda Fit, you'll get races for low-powered hatchbacks, cars of Japanese origin, events for your specific engine type and so on. As you upgrade that car, you'll start to see offers for higher-class events, but your driver level will have to be high enough to qualify for certain events, also. The game will once again automatically upgrade or downgrade your car to fit certain events, if you need a helping hand.

The game looks great in screenshots, but you know what? It totally holds up in motion, too.
The game looks great in screenshots, but you know what? It totally holds up in motion, too.

But if touring around the world and racing in the game's preset events leaves you a little cold, Forza 4 has a new Rivals mode, which is an asynchronous multiplayer mode in the same vein as Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit's Autolog. Rivals mode gives you groups of events, often requiring specific cars (which it lends you for the event) and other restrictions. From there, it's leaderboard battles against ghost racers as you attempt to beat the community or, if you're being realistic about your abilities, just your friends. It's a good change of pace, but everything you do still filters into the same driver and car level buckets, so it looks like you'll find yourself progressing through the game regardless of which mode you choose. That progress includes an affinity level with the game's different car manufacturers. Instead of leveling cars, you'll level a relationship with, say, Nissan. This has the same effect as the car levels in that you'll get a discount on parts and upgrades.

As before, the game will invite you to install a load of cars from the second disc, but you can opt to just play off of the first disc, if that's your thing. Of course, you'll still have to earn enough in-game money to actually buy these cars and add them to your garage, right? Actually... no. Forza 4 comes equipped with a microtransaction-based option that lets you purchase packs of "car tokens" for varying amounts of Microsoft Points. You can, at any point, opt to buy the game's best cars for a few of these tokens. But this might not give you much of an edge, as your driver level still prevents you from entering single-player events in super-high-class race cars. Considering how many different ways you can earn credits in Forza, the whole car token thing seems a little silly.

The storefronts, as you may have guessed, have returned. If you want to slap anime ladies all over your cars then you can build it one layer at a time, just like you did before. You can sell full cars or just vinyl groups on your storefront, as well as tuning setups and stuff like that. The auction house is back, too. It looks like some more options have been added to make it easier to find the stuff you're looking for, but you can still browse around if you're just window shopping.

The Auto Vista mode has been a real focus in a lot of the pre-release Forza coverage, so you probably already know that it's all about floating around a bunch of high-quality car models and zooming in for a closer look. I messed around with it for a bit with a controller and, yeah, it's nice. If you're interested in hearing Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear feed you some notes about different cars, it's pretty cool--but I don't know that I'll spend much more time with it now that I've gotten the basic idea. Maybe if you're an absolute car fiend it'll make more sense, but I think I'd rather drive. Or, actually, I'd probably rather surf the storefronts for ridiculous decals to slap all over my cars. To each his own, right?

After a few hours with it, Forza Motorsport 4 doesn't feel dramatically different from the previous game. You'll quickly recognize tracks that appeared in previous games and the options you get for adjusting the difficulty and driver assistance are similar, as well. That should actually feel like good news for most of you with an interest in the Forza franchise. It certainly gave me just enough of a taste to get me excited to sink a ton of hours into painting and driving cars when the game's released next month.

Here, check out these other screenshots!

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Wondering how big of a difference the new set of wheels make when playing....

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Does Dubstep improve game-play quality like in Trackmania?

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@avidwriter said:

It looks good but after a game like Driver SF, does just driving around a track for laps do it for anyone anymore?

very interesting point. games like need for speed and burnout dodged the idea of straight laps perse. i guess this is really to challenge Sony with its Gran Turismo series anymore.

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Write more articles Jeff! =D

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Cool article can't wait for the game.

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I'd be willing to bet Forza 4 is still using some of same proportionally incorrect models from Forza 1.

They did it in Forza 3.

Hell, I'd be willing to bet you still can't paint the bumper on the Civic.

If there's anything Turn 10 should be raked over the coals for, it's recycling the same old over and over and slapping a new number on it and sending it out the door.

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Forza 3 was kinda disappointing to me after Forza 2 for some reason. Probably because I got a lot of the bonus cars right away that messed the career up. But after seeing the first part of the intro with Jeremy Clarkson, I went a pre-ordered the collector's edition. This time I won't get the pre-order cars in game right away :)

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It looks great, but just imagine what the Forza series could look like if the system had more than 512MB RAM.

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I love Jeremy Clarkson! Buying the game just for that.

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yaay, Jeff article <3

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@SleepyDoughnut said:

@Meatsim said:

I have a sudden urge for some Pringles now.

Totally me too.

The system works.

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@Meatsim said:

I have a sudden urge for some Pringles now.

Totally me too.

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I have a sudden urge for some Pringles now.

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cool, it sounds like the good game, like 3.

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I used to be way into car sims, but in like the last 5 years I haven't touched a single one.

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I might buy this game.

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@Tondo: 
I think it was Jeff's point that this isn't the finished build and that he only had a couple hours.  Just because he didn't mention anything about the number of tracks doesn't mean there won't be more than Forza 4.  In fact its a little silly to think there wouldn't be.
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There are things I love about Forza, but the actual racing just doesn't do much for me. Same can be said for Gran Turismo, though Forza is a much better package then GT. Still, I'll probably end up picking it up.

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Looks and sounds great, but I still think theres just too few tracks in Forza.. It seems they did not add that many new tracks and Im afraid the game gets old too fast because of the lack of variety. Still getting the game day 1.

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@Devil240Z: as long as you dont use opponents for brakes , im sure no one will mind. ;)

@PsEG: a club filter for the leaderboard would be pretty awesome too.

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I really loved Forza 3, but didn't play a ton of it for some reason. I should fix that issue sometime soon.

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@BasketSnake said:

If only I could use my driving force GT on the xbox.

Indeed.

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@goudaj said:

@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

Europe/UK is Gran Turismo territory.

Europe and UK are more Sony territory than GT, If Forza was on PS3 it would sell similar to GT, But in the U.K 360 has been the best selling console this year, IMO Forza is the better racing sim and I am a huge fan of GT but I am a fan of cars also and Forza 3 was just a better racing game IMO of course.

A lot of my friends were waiting on GT5 and while waiting they played Forza but were expecting GT5 to come out and be amazing like I was and while it was a good game we all realised forza 3 was better and so that became the main racing title we play, Of course this is just a tiny fraction of gamers but from my experience Forza is quickly being recognized as the best racing sim on consoles in the U.K.

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@OtakuGamer said:

I don't know, the thrill of driving isn't really showcased in this game, not as much as the DiRT series anyway. Don’t quote me on it.

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Needs more mania.

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@goudaj said:

@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

Europe/UK is Gran Turismo territory.

I'm No Gran Turismo fan and from europe, always prefered Forza because it had one thing over GT and that was damage modelling. Give me Forza over GT anyday. with the exception of F1.

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@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

That sounds a lot like how Forza 4 was handled at PAX Prime: old demo and nothing fancy at the booth. Maybe they're assuming that no one at these kind of expos is interested in racing sims.

Kind of mindboggling, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, I'm a bit biased on the matter.

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@Sweep said:

They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

Europe/UK is Gran Turismo territory.

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They had a booth with this game set up at Eurogamer and it had been shoved in the corner and seemed to be largely ignored by most of the people there. I walked past it several times over the course of the two days I was there and there was always a console free and no queue to play. Seems weird considering the level of hype for this game. Maybe the marketing just hasn't kicked in properly yet?

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@avidwriter: Yes. Yes it does. Different game play types for different types of gamers.This is sim at it's finest. Driver is not even in the same ballpark, gameplay-wise.

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I want to spent a few hours with Forza 4.... actually more then a few!

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I wish you can focus on both cars.

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@davo Sir, that gap isn't long enough!
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I still haven't beat enough of F3, so I may just hold off for an Ultimate Platinum Hits edition.

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*hurl*

Bring back the divinity that was Forza 2.

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Damn, I was hoping he got to try out the Kinect head tracking thing.

I know it sounds stupid, but the whole time I played Forza 3 I was thinking "god dammit why can't I look out my window?!". It's like they catered specifically to me haha

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Forza 3 probably took up 100 hours of my time, and 4 looks like it will probably do the same.... ya!

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@avidwriter: Driving around a track has much more purpose then free riding in some random SA city. Putting in the fastest lap time with pure racing, is the most awesome thing....... in the world! And we can never have enough Jeremy Clarkson!

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I wish my racing wheel worked with the 360. I really don't want to spend money on a second wheel.

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I can't wait to get my hands on this game and set time laps on nürburgring and the top gear test track!

As Jeremy Clarkson would said: This will be the best racing game...... In the world.

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@Mihos said:

Is it true that no Porsches will be in the game at all?

That's true, except for Ruffs unfortunately.

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Really excited for the Rivals mode -- I like the game, but sometimes just playing against AI and trying to master the cars gets...well discouraging...so racing against friends on different tracks and being able to borrow cars for those challenges seems like a great idea.

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Is it true that no Porsches will be in the game at all?

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FTA "Considering how many different ways you can earn credits in Forza, the whole car token thing seems a little silly."

Mostly I agree with that statement however there have been times in Forza 3 where I didnt have a specific car in a specific class and it would have taken hours to gain the credits needed to buy it in game. I would spend under a hundred points to save myself some time in that case BUT only if I was very very far into the game. Im talking like 20 hours into the game here. I want to earn everything I can but once ive stopped playing the game daily then I dont mind cheating a bit. I played Forza 3 every day for almost a year. I have the Forza 3 limited edition leather seat with wheel mount...omg heaven lol!

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I'm really curious to read/hear what Drew thinks about it, his experience with driving games really makes me want to see if it's a good game for both crowds (driving enthusiasts - other)

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Sounds like crazy fun, I can't wait!

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Been off Forza 3 for quite a while now, so more Forza awesomeness sounds great right now. More real tracks, please please please. Sonoma's in at least.

You got me Jeff. Helpin' out yur brosef at T10? LOL, preorder inbound :).

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@gladspooky said:

@Afroman269 said:

@gladspooky said:

They should really just let people import pictures instead of letting them spend dozens of hours constructing the Pringles guy, if at least for their own sanity.

The developers said they could easily do that but they actually appreciate the work that the game community does in creating these images. It's fun for the people who can do it and they are rewarded for their work by putting it in the auction house. Letting people import pictures would just ruin it for the people who are actually talented enough to accomplish that stuff the hard way.

Oh, is that their reason? I figured it was "Someone could just take a picture of their dick and put it on a car," but then I would be like, "But that dude's going to put his dick on that car whether you make it easy for him or not," but oh well.

It's in part that of course but then again, like you said, they can make a dick with shapes if they want too right now lol.

No the real reason is because if they use shapes like they do right now you are essentialy making vector graphics instead of bitmaps (if you would upload a picture) which means you can easily scale it and modifiy it. The decal will look as good if you use it on a Mini or an Hummer.

Oh and using shapes is also like 1/10 of the size of the bitmap equivelent so you have a lot less stuff to transfer while doing storefront or online races.

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@avidwriter said:

It looks good but after a game like Driver SF, does just driving around a track for laps do it for anyone anymore?

Wow..

That's like asking if you want to go back to playing Madden after playing Jerry Rice and Nitus dog football...