Suda 51's Next Game is 'Killer is Dead'

@CaLe: No, he actually writes and/or directs games himself.

Well, to counter useless anecdotal evidence with further useless anecdotal evidence, I have also met Suda51, and he was super nice and a great guy.

*shrug*

As for the calming down of the zaniness - I feel that is the direction the studio is going in some ways, but then look at this Sine Mora thing they've taken on - it sounds very unusual and interesting. It's a common trade-off for anyone, any band, any company, whose success and popularity grows over time. Getting involved with smaller, unusual projects like Sine Mora tells me that the heart of the company hasn't changed.

Let's not forget, this is the guy who wrote a suicide story into a pro wrestling game for the SNES, which is properly crazy.

@Little_Socrates said:

Well, then fuck Cheapy D and his friends if they wish he was dead. That's a fucked up thing to say. He's a game designer, and a weird one that fashions himself an auteur. If we hate auteurs for being assholes, you better not listen to John Lennon, any member of Pink Floyd, just about any rapper ever, you better not buy games from Capcom, and you better not watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, Christian Bale, Mel Gibson, or, well, most filmmakers. Calm your tits.

A-men. I don't care if the guy's a jerk, just so long as he makes good games and I don't have to deal with him myself.

He doesn't even work on his games.

@Little_Socrates said:

This sounds like it'll end up feeling very similar to No More Heroes. Hard to get that excited.

@bighat_logan said:

CheapyD said Suda51 is huge asshole.

@Distrato said:

Cheapy D from Cheapassgamer lives in Japan and is friends with the grasshopper game devs. They all say Suda is a complete dick and they honestly wish he was dead.

Well, then fuck Cheapy D and his friends if they wish he was dead. That's a fucked up thing to say. He's a game designer, and a weird one that fashions himself an auteur. If we hate auteurs for being assholes, you better not listen to John Lennon, any member of Pink Floyd, just about any rapper ever, you better not buy games from Capcom, and you better not watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, Christian Bale, Mel Gibson, or, well, most filmmakers. Calm your tits.

Just to clarify a little, in case no one else did, Cheapy said he knows/talked with some employees at Grasshopper and THEY said that Suda is an asshole who essentially doesn't contribute to the games he "makes" and basically gets all the credit for the games and something about the employees are making the games while Suda is out buying clothes and doing pretty much anything other than helping.

Whether that is hyperbole from some disgruntled employees or if Cheapy was just summing up what was said in very broad strokes, or if it's 100% true is hard to tell. But from what I remember about the episode Cheapy admits he's never met the man and if anybody wished Suda dead, it was the employees and I mean, who hasn't vented and said they wish their boss was dead before?

If Suda really didn't bring anything to the table, I'd imagine his employees would up and quit or go make their own studio or something. It's probably just some guys at Grasshopper that are pissed that Suda gets to come up with an idea for a game, they spend a bunch of time making it and he gets to say "Yeah that's good, no drop that, change this, change that" and then go off and hang with Kojima while they have to do more work, but guess what, that's what a director does. That said, if Suda is a dick and exploiting his employees or treating them like shit, should he really get a pass just because the game that comes out of it is good? I mean, by that logic we shouldn't care about all the reports about Rockstar overworking employees, the head guy at Team Bondi having been a massive prick, or when EA and/or Activision don't pay proper overtime as long as the game is good.

I worry that he's not investing enough passion in each game he's working on. If 'Lollipop Chainsaw' is any good, surely he'd just eat, sleep and play it till the launch? Does that mean the games just another project?

This is the best news I've ever heard. Ever. No exceptions.

@matthias2437 said:

Killer of killers... so he is making a Dexter game?

I have only heard of what Dexter is about in passing, and even I thought this. You speak for the people, sir.

Dexter: The Video Game.

@Little_Socrates said:

This sounds like it'll end up feeling very similar to No More Heroes. Hard to get that excited.

@bighat_logan said:

CheapyD said Suda51 is huge asshole.

@Distrato said:

Cheapy D from Cheapassgamer lives in Japan and is friends with the grasshopper game devs. They all say Suda is a complete dick and they honestly wish he was dead.

Well, then fuck Cheapy D and his friends if they wish he was dead. That's a fucked up thing to say. He's a game designer, and a weird one that fashions himself an auteur. If we hate auteurs for being assholes, you better not listen to John Lennon, any member of Pink Floyd, just about any rapper ever, you better not buy games from Capcom, and you better not watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, Christian Bale, Mel Gibson, or, well, most filmmakers. Calm your tits.

i agree with this guy, cheapy has never even met suda as far as i know.

I hope this is some white hot suda 51 crazy

Still haven't played a single Suda51 game.

I just finished Shadows of the Damned a few hours ago so I'm ready for another Suda 51 game after Lollipop Chainsaw.

So another mediocre game that's "wacky". Sweet.

@divakchopra said:

that picture of him on the toilet is kick ass

^That!!

XD

@Seroth said:

More like "Killer7 is Dead." :(

I want to see a revival of that game...a director's cut, a remake, an HD port, a character in the next Capcom fighting game...

But still, I'm excited for whatever this game is...I just hope it's as crazy as Killer7 or the original No More Heroes. Suda's recent games haven't even come close to topping the ridiculousness of those two games. I'm interested to see how Lollipop Chainsaw turns out, too.

He's making them more accessible and mainstream..which is calming down the crazyness... Kinda sad, if you ask me :/

that picture of him on the toilet is kick ass

Great, another game that will probably play like shit, but oh, it'll be quirky. Terrific.

@Jayzilla: Well under that idea you probably hate quentin tarantino. Young sexy killer girls are all up in some of his movies. Besides Shadows of the Damned was great and a pretty decent message. Or at least I think it was. I didn't see it coming.

@CaLe: I'm fine with that as long as someone keeps making the games he comes up with. Shadows of the Damned was amazing, Lollipop Chainsaw is looking to be good as long as that director of Dawn of the Dead doesn't smother it by accident, and I bet this game will be pretty good if not great. He is progressively getting better at story and gameplay so I have faith in him.

I'll play basically anything this man puts out. But he really likes assassins, doesn't he?

I fucking love me some Suda, so count me in on whatever he has planned.

I keep throwing money at the monitor but nothing is happening. DAMMIT.

@sub_o said:

Will there be a parody of Suda51's twitter, called Suda52 ?

Lord I hope not. Then we have to hear about Patrick's Sudajam.

I want a Drew Scanlon skin for the main character.

@Seroth said:

More like "Killer7 is Dead." :(

The fact that he's even undercutting fan response in an announcement tweet (saying in Japanese "It is not a Killer7 sequel") is leading me to believe it means "No, that will be later. Duon't even start on Killer7 yet. It will have its time."

That looks pretty dope actually, I'll bite

Great!

I will buy it. I was skeptical of his other stuff, coming to it late. I loved pretty much all of it though.

It will be flawed, I will love it.

I want to hear about any game Suda 51 is making.

And here I was thinking Killer7 sequel from the headline.

@Little_Socrates said:

This sounds like it'll end up feeling very similar to No More Heroes. Hard to get that excited.

@bighat_logan said:

CheapyD said Suda51 is huge asshole.

@Distrato said:

Cheapy D from Cheapassgamer lives in Japan and is friends with the grasshopper game devs. They all say Suda is a complete dick and they honestly wish he was dead.

Well, then fuck Cheapy D and his friends if they wish he was dead. That's a fucked up thing to say. He's a game designer, and a weird one that fashions himself an auteur. If we hate auteurs for being assholes, you better not listen to John Lennon, any member of Pink Floyd, just about any rapper ever, you better not buy games from Capcom, and you better not watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, Christian Bale, Mel Gibson, or, well, most filmmakers. Calm your tits.

Well we have other reasons to not deal with those two, not only because they seem to be a higher degree of asshole.

Someone needs to make a sliding scale of asshole...wow that sounds terrifying...

More like "Killer7 is Dead." :(

I want to see a revival of that game...a director's cut, a remake, an HD port, a character in the next Capcom fighting game...

But still, I'm excited for whatever this game is...I just hope it's as crazy as Killer7 or the original No More Heroes. Suda's recent games haven't even come close to topping the ridiculousness of those two games. I'm interested to see how Lollipop Chainsaw turns out, too.

@Alex said:

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Hell yes (at least to the first one; I can't remove the second).

Already looking forward to Lollipop Chainsaw and now I have this to look forward to next year. Awesome news.

Shoulda called it "Killer Be Killed"

@Grissefar said:

@BisonHero said:

@Grissefar said:

What happened to that knight paper puppet theater game they also announced last year?

It's called Black Knight Sword, and is still being made, I guess? It has only been shown at Gamescom so far, and there doesn't seem to be very much info about it among the English-language games press. Should be at PAX East.

Are you going?

Sadly, no. I'd love to go, but I have to save as much money as possible to cover tuition. But if you're going, try to find Black Knight Sword so somebody can actually explain what it is.

@BisonHero said:

@Grissefar said:

What happened to that knight paper puppet theater game they also announced last year?

It's called Black Knight Sword, and is still being made, I guess? It has only been shown at Gamescom so far, and there doesn't seem to be very much info about it among the English-language games press. Should be at PAX East.

Are you going?

@Alex_Carrillo: Gotcha, it's all good.

God dammnit Suda! Stop releasing so many cool looking games so often! I can only afford so many of your games!

@Little_Socrates said:

@Alex_Carrillo: A bit late to the conversation, but I did say that if you hate people and choose not to listen/watch/play media by certain people simply because they're assholes, that's your prerogative, but then I questioned why you read the article at all. That's somewhere on page 2 or 3 of the comments, I think. But most directors ARE assholes; unless you're a Spielberg fan, your favorite director is probably an asshole, whether he's a genius like Coppola or Hitchcock or not.

I honestly don't care if people buy things made by dicks unless we're talking Mel Gibson levels of terrible. I was just dickishly picking on one of your sentences.

Why don't just call it No More Heroes 3? and be some sort of reboot of that series given that the first 2 (except for Heroes Paradise) never even appear on the PS3/360.

I thought he already made this game. It was called No More Heroes.

@Alex_Carrillo: A bit late to the conversation, but I did say that if you hate people and choose not to listen/watch/play media by certain people simply because they're assholes, that's your prerogative, but then I questioned why you read the article at all. That's somewhere on page 2 or 3 of the comments, I think. But most directors ARE assholes; unless you're a Spielberg fan, your favorite director is probably an asshole, whether he's a genius like Coppola or Hitchcock or not.

@Milkman said:

@Alex_Carrillo said:

I'll play one of his games when he stops calling himself Suda 51.

@Little_Socrates said:

This sounds like it'll end up feeling very similar to No More Heroes. Hard to get that excited.

@bighat_logan said:

CheapyD said Suda51 is huge asshole.

@Distrato said:

Cheapy D from Cheapassgamer lives in Japan and is friends with the grasshopper game devs. They all say Suda is a complete dick and they honestly wish he was dead.

Well, then fuck Cheapy D and his friends if they wish he was dead. That's a fucked up thing to say. He's a game designer, and a weird one that fashions himself an auteur. If we hate auteurs for being assholes, you better not listen to John Lennon, any member of Pink Floyd, just about any rapper ever, you better not buy games from Capcom, and you better not watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, Christian Bale, Mel Gibson, or, well, most filmmakers. Calm your tits.

Wait, we can't hate people for being assholes?

And just fyi, I don't watch movies made by James Cameron, Michael Bay, or Mel Gibson. Because they're assholes.

Hate to break this to you but most directors are giant assholes so there's a good chance your favorite director is also a dick.

As for Suda, he's pretty much the most creative guy in the games industry so it doesn't shock or bother me that he's kind of an asshole.

No he isn't.

An entire 3 pages of conversation on why we should or shouldn't buy stuff made my dicks. I have a better reason not to buy his games: they're boring.

Example: No More Heroes

It tried to show you the the dull, derivative aspects of an open world game by in fact having a dull, derivative open world. You don't make fun of something by just being it. That's not how parody works, especially not in video games. It stops being funny when I have to suffer through that shit in your game.

And Suda 51 "cool" is nerd cool, which is an oxymoron.

@MikkaQ said:

@Echo said:

@bighat_logan said:

CheapyD said Suda51 is huge asshole.

@Distrato said:

Cheapy D from Cheapassgamer lives in Japan and is friends with the grasshopper game devs. They all say Suda is a complete dick and they honestly wish he was dead.

Seen this pop up a lot lately. Anyone wanna post a link to said info?

It's on the CAGCast, they didn't write it down or anything.

CheapyD claimed Suda51 sold poison milk to school children.