Ubisoft Responds to Assassin's Creed III Leaks by Just Up and Revealing its Cover Art [UPDATED]

Excited for this one! Pre-ordered today.

No hidden blade, that is bad, this is more read dead redemptiom, i wanted egypt or russia.

@Cyrisaurus: lol yeah, totally. imagine Desmond with a ridiculous Russian accent. i could see it "dis is how we deal with people we hate in Russia" commence epic mid air assassination.

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@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

No someone needs to start repeating their previous posts for that to work I Thinks.

Also do you think the English audience for this game is gonna be a little put off by the overly pro American message this game is touting.

I'll start the process of repeating posts and say it's set during the Revolutionary War so there is no other tone it could have. I guess the English will see what the Germans felt like during all those WWII first person shooters.

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@huser

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@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

No someone needs to start repeating their previous posts for that to work I Thinks.

Also do you think the English audience for this game is gonna be a little put off by the overly pro American message this game is touting.

But seriously... Yankee-fied AssCreed!? No... please no.

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@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

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@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Am I doing it right?

Is this like when you look into a mirror and see the mirror you're looking into and it keeps repeating? Are we repeating yet?

@Humanity said:

@MindOST said:

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

@talideon said:

Far from it. I'd like to see him portrayed as a three-dimensional character rather than the usual two-dimensional villain he's usually portrayed as. That would be much more interesting. He could end up being an interesting tragic character. There are at least two excellent potential Templar characters that could be used to set up his downfall: Benedict's wife and Horatio Gates.

The odd part about this, is that I can't think of a single portrayal of him, period. This is a period that is covered to death in elementary school (especially if you go to school in one of the original colonies), so everyone grows up feeling like this stuff is old and boring, but as far as fictional tellings of colonial America, there's Mel Gibson, and that one HBO thing nobody saw. That's about it. Anything else is like, 50 year year old TV specials and children's books. Sure, everyone knows the basic story beats of the Revolution, and everyone knows his name means 'traitor', but the simple act of making a video game about the Revolution means they're not doing any 'same old tired story'. If they want to make him a two dimensional asshole (and let's face it, AC isn't exactly renowned for its character development) I'm oddly ok with that. Yes, it would absolutely be way more interesting to make him on the 'good' side, but just the idea of a game that has all the craziness that was the Revolution in it, Arnold included, is enough for me.

Assuming, that is, that he's even in the game to begin with.

Finally we are leaving Ezio behind and exploring a new character and time period. I have little doubt that there will be "villians" on both sides and I am looking forward to how this will play out.

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@MarkWahlberg said:

Benedict Arnold is a Templar, Paul Rivere is an Assassin, Benjamin Franklin designs your gadgets and the Boston Tea Party was just a distraction for what *really* happened.

Nah, Arnold ought to be an Assassin given how history (and his opponents at the time) crapped all over him continuously. He ought to be portrayed as an Assassin who either gets suckered by the Templars into switching sides or he discovers dangerous Templar influence in the American forces, which makes him switch sides in spite of the negative consequences for him. That's be far more complex and interesting that his straight-up demonisation.

But having him be evil - or at least constantly exasperated by the good guys - would be funnier? I dunno, I was going more for what I expect out of this than what I'd actually like to happen.

Far from it. I'd like to see him portrayed as a three-dimensional character rather than the usual two-dimensional villain he's usually portrayed as. That would be much more interesting. He could end up being an interesting tragic character. There are at least two excellent potential Templar characters that could be used to set up his downfall: Benedict's wife and Horatio Gates.

I don't think Arnold will end up being portrayed as either a Templar or an Assassin myself, though I think it's more likely that, given AC lore to date, he'd be portrayed as an Assassin. Given his history, Ubisoft Montreal would be squandering an excellent character if he was portrayed simplistically.

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@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

Have we now achieved "deep"? So deep? So deep it coincided with putting a farm animal to sleep?

Trailer!

@Shun_Akiyama said:

@hermes said:

It sure looks more interesting than anything AC has thrown recently, but I will need to see it in motion though. There are too many things in the gameplay I don't know how they will translate to the new setting.

I will also be disappointed if all the templars are on the british side, while the good guys are all american revolutionaries... Seems too politically correct for a game made out of "different people from different cultures".

George Washington was a Templar in real life, so I don't think They'd change it.

Not true. He was a Mason. Though the Masons claim a link to the Templars, it is only 'in spirit', in fact there is no link whatsoever.

I would like to see the characters clothes fit the style of the era he is in. That look makes him look well out of place.

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@huser

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@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

It's like were diving into our ancestors' posting memories.

@Brockly46 said:

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Going Deeper

I can't see my original post anymore!

@Rotnac said:

@envane said:

@huser said:

@Turambar said:

@huser said:

@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

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I want to put it this way for all of you: If the Assassin's Creed lore has already firmly established that the Americans would more than likely not be the good guys (due to the founding fathers potentially all being templars), why would they go ahead and pick America, then switch it up for fear of backlash? Their sales are good enough without needing to pander to us, so it's not like they're trying to reclaim the American audience.

That said, I hope that the Americans and British are both harboring baddies. I want someone to stick a thumb in Fox News' eye and break free of this oppressive patriotism. It's beyond old and we Americans weren't angels of purity throughout history so we need to stop being so defensive about it.

@Stubee said:

If someone asked me "What country has a very short and limited history that has been portrayed to death in almost every form of media" do you know what I would answer.....

You can see where I'm going. This is disappointing.

Says the guy with the Red Dead Redemption avatar. :P

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@Humanity said:

@huser

@Turambar said:

@Humanity said:

@MindOST

Like most people, I just hope they don't go the easy route and make the British the "Bad Guys" and the revolutionaries the "Good Guys."

I don't see why they wouldn't do that. Do people really think the British were really nice guys during that time or something? British colonies weren't some happy fun camps where the indigenous population thrived. The English were by all account "bad guys" throughout early history, unless exploitation for self benefit is ok all of a sudden.

If by indigenous population, you mean the Native Americans, almost all fought on the side of the British, not the Colonists. If you are talking about the white population of the colonies, it's worth pointing out that Canada was more than willing to stay with the crow for another century while in the 13 Colonies, estimates of the size of the Loyalist population is around a third of the total population.

Seriously, it's not like the Revolutionary War suddenly altered people on a genetic level and deleted their upbringing. They were, just a few years earlier, largely loyal subjects of the crown. So if the English were right bastards, then...well it's not exactly six degrees of separation here.

I'm referring to the fact that this will be a video game where there will be a good and a bad side. AC Revelations had very clearly defined good and bad guys despite neither party being completely guilt free in historical context. So people saying "I hope the British aren't portrayed as bad guys here that's bullshit!" are strange to me because that's exactly how I'd imagine it would pan out. From the American standpoint the colonists were the "good guys" that splintered off from the crown. Of course the term "Americans" is largely symbolical at that point in time since as you mention they were loyal British born and bred subjects. Since we are slowly moving towards the present and Desmond is American that just leads me to naturally assume the game would have you play as a third party, as the series always had, lending a helping hand to the colonists.

I'd assume the badguys are the Templars and their knowing or unknowing minions and accomplices. Given they pretty much own the US by the time of Desmond, I'd be just as likely be inclined to believe that the TEMPLARS are running the secessionist train to establish a completely independent political body.

Given what all the released artwork of the game are like thus far, I'd say the protagonist being on the side of the colonists is pretty much guaranteed.

I'm just going by this one here

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/assassins-creed-3/4863676/#/3

Blue and Gold being an established color scheme for the Continental Army. Whereas the Brits, well you know...

Now maybe that guy is a traitor, spy, or about to be saved, but he looks not long for this world.

EDIT - Maybe a Hessian, though. The exact cut is beyond my knowledge of the times.

WHAT IS THIS MESSY NEST OF QUOTES FUUUCK

WE NEED TO GO DEEPER!!

Looks awesome. Can't wait for the game to come out.

This whole "I can blend into the crowd with my fancy ass assassins robe" thing is becoming increasingly less practical.

Damn. I really liked the ideas of Victorian London or Old ass Japan.

Not interested so far.

Judging from the leaked details, it sounds a lot like the developers took a few pages from Red Dead Redemption. There's going to be a wilderness set around the cities of Boston and New York, filled with animals that you can hunt for pelts and stuff.

And you can climb trees. They're making a sort of "Predator" element to it. So think that fight in the woods scene in The Patriot, but with Assassin shit.

Cannot fucking wait for this game.

I wonder will the UK box art be different...

Shouldn't listen to anyone with a flag of their country as their avatar

Fail

@FirebirdINF: Actually, there WERE already cities in America... just saying.

Hmmm if they handle the subject accurately this could be interesting. The American war of independence is one of the most freely altered and revised events in the history of America so this could go either way could be interesting to see.

Oh and Alex WTF why make an inflammatory comment like that? I mean seriously like that wasn't going to have people arguing and bring down the tone of the site. I'm a bit disappointed to be honest.

That is just... YES.

Not really excited about this one and I am an AC whore. I have all Xbox releases of AC.

I tolerated gameplay for the architectural vistas and relaxation from historical and political remoteness.

American revolution is too close for escape. There are so many political minefields: slavery, constitutional issues, native American issues. And there are no cities.

The game mechanics better be different to make climbing trees and forts interesting.

I will probably buy it anyway, but it looks like they are getting away from the core offering that made AC unique to me.

Looks like I'll be playing AC for the fourth consecutive winter.

Meh...

@Abyssfull said:

Wow... thanks for that. Kinda looks like a cross between Assassins Creed and Red Dead Redemption.

You had me at stabbing zombie bears. (!!)

I haven't played an assassin's creed since 2 (the idea of returning to one assassin didn't grab me. I was sold on the idea of progressing through history). I may give this one a shot.

I never really got into the AC games like others have. Played 1 and 2 and felt that was enough. This change in history really has me interested though.

I thought that after Revelations I had lost all interest in Assassins creed. I was wrong.

@dr_mantas said:

He uses every part of the assassination, he uses 100%. You might know this as "full synch".

Bravo, good sir

im gonna teabag some dirty brits at the teaparty, hell yeahhhhh

After 4 games, I'm actually rather hoping this starts an arc featuring the descendants of the girl Minerva told Desmond to find. Or maybe ends Desmond's part so we get some background on her and her ancestors in the next few games. Then the series ends (or at least their story) with a game where you play as both after they meet up. I'm kind of mostly interested in the girl and her background at this point, rather than more Desmond stuff (although I'd still be cool with it).

We know what Desmond is about for the most part at this point. His ancestors were either seeking or trying to protect the AOE. So who is the girl Minerva/Juno? spoke of before the apple made Desmond kill Lucy ? Why is she important? What connections (if any) do her ancestors have with Desmond's?

These are the things I want to know in the AC universe at this point.

God dammit. I hated the first 2 assassin creed games (loved the story, hated the gameplay) and vowed not to fall for the same thing again... but this does sound interesting. Piss.

As a brit I have no problem with murdering my fellow brits (in a video game setting... of course) so long as its not the "oh you evil english bastard" pantomine style (which is just lazy from a story telling standpoint). Sure, we brits have, like most nations, done some awful things (I apologise again for russel brand and ricky gervais) in the past but can't we all just get along?

Is it just me, or his costume has nothing to do with the new setting? Fail.

I've never been more interested and excited about a series while being unable to stop laughing. Ever.

God damn that boxart is so badass.

Francis Marion aka The Swamp Fox was a childhood hero of my mine. Dood was 1337.

"Francis MarionSWAMP FOX of the Revolution The greatest guerrilla fighter in the American Revolution was Francis Marion. Incredibly daring, he terrorized the entire British Army in South Carolina, striking with fantastic swiftness, then vanishing ghost-like into the swamps. To chase him was a futile nightmare, for the Swamp Fox was too clever and too fearless. Born near Georgetown, South Carolina, Marion was for years a peaceful farmer. When the Cherokees began their massacres he began his fighting career, learning the Indian techniques of surprise attack and sudden disappearance, how to use swamps and forests as cover. Thus when England sent a vast fleet to capture Charleston, Marion was already a brilliant strategist. From a tiny, unfinished island fort he defied fifty warships of the greatest navy in the world. He and his men crippled the entire British fleet and saved the city, though they lacked adequate ammunition, achieving the first important victory of the American Revolution. When Charleston fell to the enemy, Marion escaped and formed Marion's Brigade, one hundred fifty tattered, penniless patriots. None received pay, food or even ammunition from the Continental Army. The only reward they sought was freedom from tyranny, freedom for America. Although Marion received a Congressional citation for wisdom and bravery he was never accorded the honor his country owed him, and when the British evacuated Charleston he was not asked to participate in the celebration because he and his men were too ragged. But that ragged brigade who followed Francis Marion on the long, hard road to American independence earned its rightful plate in history. ---R.C"

@Jaytow said:

It's funny how any slight form of anti-American sentiment on these boards is jumped on but youcan openly express your desire to kill British soilders, that's fine.

Oh and before you say "yeah you kill Russians in call of duty blah blah fucking blah", I'm willing to bet that very few people got pumped to play call of duty because they would get to kill Russians, they, as a majority, were excited for either the multiplayer component of the game or the "realistic" portrayal of modern war, not a xenophobic desire to kill Russians like many I've seen here. Then again, after what I've seen here there may actually be a reason other than the multiplayer that call of duty does so well in America.

I also understand that this is a videogame and you are not actually killing British people, that said these people are not expressing a will to enjoy the creative ways in which ubisoft will allow you to kill your targets (as they have with the past AC games), they are simply stating their desire to kill "red coats".

you sound like one of those nationalist morons here in China

where they brag about games and movies that "blown up their cities" and "killing their people", while ignoring the fact that it happens everywhere: Tokyo get trashed by Godzilla, White House blown sky high by either alien or terrorist, Russia is plagued by nukes gone missing on a daily basis, and more importantly, IN FICTION.

I love everything about this.

@jayperr said:

@kagato: You are right, i totally forgot about that lol.

To be fair, it was super early on in the story, it would be really easy to miss

@Jaytow said:

It's funny how any slight form of anti-American sentiment on these boards is jumped on but youcan openly express your desire to kill British soilders, that's fine.

Oh and before you say "yeah you kill Russians in call of duty blah blah fucking blah", I'm willing to bet that very few people got pumped to play call of duty because they would get to kill Russians, they, as a majority, were excited for either the multiplayer component of the game or the "realistic" portrayal of modern war, not a xenophobic desire to kill Russians like many I've seen here. Then again, after what I've seen here there may actually be a reason other than the multiplayer that call of duty does so well in America.

I also understand that this is a videogame and you are not actually killing British people, that said these people are not expressing a will to enjoy the creative ways in which ubisoft will allow you to kill your targets (as they have with the past AC games), they are simply stating their desire to kill "red coats".

Alright, now that I have gotten through letting out the biggest sigh of depression, let's get to your reply.

Red coats are as much British soldiers as Minutemen are American soldiers. It's the past. Leave it there. I'm proud to be an American, and clearly you are very proud to be from the UK, but I would not boycott a game on the basis that the cover has an assassin about to come down on a Minuteman. How do you know the tone of the game already? It's the cover. It cannot easily portray that this was a two sided war. So it goes with a striking image the is indicative of the setting. I don't see too many Germans getting offended that their soldiers were turned into zombies or that the war was never taught from their perspective (and yes, I did just say that, so don't waste my time asking me if I actually said something I said).

"Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people that you never met. And all of a sudden you take pride in accomplishments you had no part in whatsoever"