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Unsurprisingly, George 'GeoHot' Hotz has Some Thoughts About this Whole PSN Hacking Thing

The kid who cracked the PlayStation 3's security is not shocked to learn someone else hacked the PlayStation Network.

As the news blogs and social media feeds continue to swell to the point of bursting with vitriolic, sarcastic, and generally unkind words regarding the compromising of the PlayStation Network and the bona fide communications catastrophe that has since followed, we of The Internet have waited with bated breath for words from George "GeoHot" Hotz, that lovable, firmware-hacking rapscallion whose fairly public and unpleasant legal battle with Sony over said PS3 hackery more or less set off all this nonsense.

 Hackers, meet your bed-headed messiah.
Now, Hotz's deepest, most personal thoughts have come down from on high (via his blog), and perhaps unsurprisingly, he sees this issue as primarily the fault of Sony executives and their particular brand of hubris in dealing with the hacker community at large.

"The fault lies with the executives," wrote Hotz, "who declared a war on hackers, laughed at the idea of people penetrating the fortress that once was Sony, whined incessantly about piracy, and kept hiring more lawyers when they really needed to hire good security experts. Alienating the hacker community is not a good idea."

On the subject of the current issue and its ramifications for the personal identities of a whole bunch of PlayStation 3 owners, Hotz expressed a sort of defiant sympathy. "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices is cool, hacking into someone elses server and stealing databases of user info is not cool. You make the hacking community look bad, even if it is aimed at douches like Sony."

== TEASER ==Hotz, who recently settled his civil suit with Sony over his hacked firmware chicanery, also distanced himself directly from the whole episode. "I'm not crazy, and would prefer to not have the FBI knocking on my door," he stated. Anonymous, the Super Mega Awesome Hacking Club who previously responded to Sony's legal chest-beating by threatening to use Sony executives' personal email addresses to sign up for Craigslist erotic service ads, have also claimed to not be directly involved in this personal info thievery.

Hotz closed with a message to the hackers involved in the PSN breach, imploring them not to be "dicks" and referring to Sony as "noobs" without a hint of identifiable irony.

"To the perpetrator, two things. You are clearly talented and will have plenty of money(or a jail sentence and bankruptcy) coming to you in the future. Don't be a dick and sell people's information. And I'd love to see a write up on how it all went down...lord knows we'll never get that from Sony, noobs probably had the password set to '4' or something. I mean, at least it was randomly generated." Alex Navarro on Google+
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Posted by Scrubiii

I don't know if I'm the only one but I thought the quote from Anonymous was really funny. It's odd but I actually find that I respect them. I don't know how many other people have seen this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJwSjor4hM but I think it's great. They seem like they only go for people who really deserve it, as with this case, or they are just in it for a laugh, like their threat to Sony. 

Posted by Xsheps

  

Posted by Hailinel
@Afroman269 said:
" People still say noob? "
Only if they spend all their time hacking electronics while the majority of their social interaction requires the internet.
Posted by iam3green

know that was going to be said.

Edited by jamesisaacs

Hackers done it for such a lame reason...ugh damn nerds would never do something of that scale in public to someones face the pocket protected virgin losers!

P.S. Geohotz looks like a virgin too.

Posted by SeriouslyNow
@Ronald said:
" @subvertedhope said:

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And the number of giant multinational corporation sympathizers on here saddens me. They have plenty of money and lawyers (and judges and politicians on their side as well), they don't need you to white-knight them. Such good little consumers. "

And this is the kind of thinking that cost my entire store, from associates up through store manager their jobs. "Your company has plenty of money, I should be allowed to steal as much as I want" is the same excuse I heard again and again from the thieves who would rob us of our product and lead to the store team being replaced. Because it is not the company that gets hurt by this type of hacking (which is a form of theft). It is the hard working employees who get hurt by it. They get fired, even if the fault in the system had nothing to do with it. It is the PSN users who now have to worry about their identities being stolen who have to worry. They suddenly can't get a mortgage on a house or an automotive loan because someone else decided it would be fun to steal their identity, which is what happened to my mother. But it's always the easy excuse to forget the people who get hurt by these actions when we can just call it the "corporation". "
What happened to you, your company AND your mother, while awful if we take it as real, doesn't relate to this discussion. (but you do seem to have a lot of misfortune) The fault does lie with Sony in this case.  They implemented their security poorly (non random seed - an amateur error which is essentially gross negligence on such a large scale as this) which they then tried to cover by removing the OtherOS feature rather then actually fixing the problem.  Had Sony fixed the problem which they caused without inconveniencing their consumers none of this would have happened.  The interest in hacking the PS3 was extremely low until Sony's removal of OtherOS.  On the one hand it infuriated some who felt that they had had something taken away from them which Sony had no right to take and on the other it sent warning bells ringing because it meant that OtherOS Support and thus Linux might reveal some of the deeper aspects of the hardware which people had otherwise assumed (based on what Sony had always said) were never going to be available.

But it's always the easy excuse to forgo reality in favour of making up some bullshit to fit a line of reasoning where people don't have to be responsible for the choices they make.  Especially when it suits you to complain because you've had downtime to your precious PSN.  Just be honest.
Posted by mr_shoeless

Wait, I can only say "noob" ironically now? Man, you kids with the slang, always changing it around (er, I mean "changing it up") at the drop of a hat (do we still say "drop of a hat"?) It's so hard for us oldsters (is "oldsters" okay?) to keep up because we don't mainline (what about "mainline"?) the "newspeak" (wait, most of you were probably born after 1984).

Please interpret this entire post ironically, if doing so makes it seem more "hip".

Edited by Vigorousjammer

I have absolutely no problem with hardware "hacking"

The stuff GeoHot does is simply modifications to a product HE OWNS.
It's no worse than Jailbreaking an iPhone

sure, pirating games on a modified Playstation isn't cool, and I understand why Sony would block that stuff... but why block the homebrew?

I mean, just because the games don't have an ESRB rating shouldn't matter, the Xbox 360 Indie Games section is a perfect example of homebrew done right.  You put a warning before each game that it wasn't rated, and let people put up whatever they want.

Although in that case, the $90 a year price tag is a bit ridiculous, even considering the servers they need to run to host the stuff, it seems like a lot of money.

That being said, Sony should do something similar.

Posted by JonPadgett

Geohot is correct for some of what he is saying. But if you really think about this, he has nothing to do with the hack attempts so you can't blame him for all of this. Honestly completely shutting down the PSN was not their brightest idea and made alot of people upset. But hey, You know. Companies like sony, youtube, and google shouldn't mess with hackers. Frankly its stupid. The only company that hasn't called them out or threatened  them is Microsoft. Its smart to stay out of the fire when everyone else is burning themselves on it. 

Posted by CraigAA1028

Telling hackers they can't get into PSN is like telling a teenager he can't get into a bar. Give him some time and he'll find a way if he really wants to.
Posted by SeriouslyNow
@CraigAA said:
" Telling hackers they can't get into PSN is like telling a teenager he can't get into a bar. Give him some time and he'll find a way if he really wants to. "
You can't beat a 100%.  Liking your STALKER : CoP LP btw.  You should turn on shadows etc.  At least for a quick squiz so people can see how the game is supposed to look.
Posted by Sheltro

I find it soo funny

Posted by MrAristocrates
@JonPadgett:  Shutting down PSN was the best thing they could have done in the circumstances.
Posted by SavageM2

I know next to nothing about this stuff, but I have to say I really like this quote:
"Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices is cool, hacking into someone elses server and stealing databases of user info is not cool. You make the hacking community look bad, even if it is aimed at douches like Sony."

Posted by MordeaniisChaos

@SavageM2 said:

I know next to nothing about this stuff, but I have to say I really like this quote:"Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices is cool, hacking into someone elses server and stealing databases of user info is not cool. You make the hacking community look bad, even if it is aimed at douches like Sony."

Seems an odd thing to "really like". Is it in an ironic way? Even then it seems like a really generic quote for irony even. Hmm... Or perhaps there is something I'm not seeing?

Posted by miva2

he's so funny