Wii U’s Controller May Have Seen Some Changes

I don't know if this thing is going to be good at all. I think a lot of people got burned by the Wii, and Nintendo really needs something groundbreaking to win people over.

Man, I hate the name. Wii is a fine name but I dont know why they dont just create a new name for their new console.

I still don't care about the goofy controller. Way I see it Nintendo is an entire generation behind both Sony and Microsoft when it comes to actual hardware in their system, and that's what matters. Unfortunately that really isn't what matters to them. They seem hell bent on introducing gimmicks instead of reliable horsepower and both the games on their system and their system itself suffer because of it. They always like throwing around the cop-out answer of, "We worry about the experience and not the hardware," when it is the hardware itself that allows developers to do more with their fucking games.

Ergonomically speaking this thing is probably a nightmare over long play sessions. Durability wise it'll be virtually unbreakable because most Nintendo shit is. But the real meat, the actual hardware, I expect to be lacking in a massive way because it's Nintendo.

Shame really. It'll get left behind again and I still won't give a fuck.

the idea is great, but it doesnt look very comfortable to use at all. they should put little hand wing grip things on it for the analog sticks nad buttons. sure it'd look even dumber, but functionality is more important.

Can't wait for E3 to see some more Wii U. I'm hoping I won't be disappointed.

@Lucidlife said:

@Cheebahh:

Looks like cheap, plasticy shit. Suppose it has to be for the kid/casual market though.

Nintendo I've been with you since the NES, through thick and thin, defending you and your silly decisions right up 'til now.

I'm putting it out there, fuck the Wii U.

Really? It looks like every single thing that Apple has ever put out. So you think their products are shit too right?

It definitely doesn't have the elegance of the more recent Apple products, and although I haven't felt the controller the way the light is bouncing off the plastic does make it look cheap...but what do we know? Technically we shouldn't have seen this and it's just something slapped together for devs. We also haven't held this model so it could just as easily be a combination of bad lighting and a low resolution shot that's making the controller look unappealing.

Either way I'm looking forward to the Wii U and the surprises that are going to come our of E3.

This whole Wii U thing is such a terrible idea...

If they have a proper launch Super Mario game, then you know Nintendo is serious about this shit. If they just do another Wii sports compilation, well I guess you can't fault em but Nintendo just ain't for me anymore.

So... Hey don't comment on rumor or speculation. What about photographs? Do they comment on those, or are they of the opinion that pictures are speculative?

Every person I know who bought a Wii for themselves or for their kids have sold it or no longer uses it because they bought a different console.  When asked if they would buy the next Wii, it was a big hell no.

Why does Nintendo insist on making controllers which are totally fucking unusable for actually playing video games...

atleast they put analog sticks on it.

The hardware doesn't really matter to me, I think its all about the software. Nintendo has to get online right, and they have to be able to market wii U as a entertainment box and not just a gaming console. The Nintendo games will be solid, but with a lack of hardware power I don't know how they will be able to sustain third party games (specially if the online is not upto par)I think having some sort of tablet functionality is really cool and can be a great gateway for casual gamers to get into some more serious gaming (plus its an easy way to navigate menus etc). However I am very,very skeptical of the Wii U controller. Its not a multitouch screen and its not as high res as the tablets on the market right now and seems kind of too bulky and not really elegant like current tablets. It seems very logical to me that both Sony and specially Msoft with Windows 8 will have extensive integration of tablets and phones with their next console in a way that makes Wii U's controller kind of obsolete.

Lets see what happens at E3 though.

@fishless said:

Looks like Nintendo really is getting more serious about winning back favor with core gamers!

You really believe that? How could you possibly play a "core" game with that controller, it would be an impossible, uncomfortable nightmare.

The magic word is thinner. If they change the name and make the controller a little less clunky I could be interested.

Ugh that design... fucking... kdljshalskjdfh

@ptys said:

The magic word is thinner. If they change the name and make the controller a little less clunky I could be interested.

The name matters? If it's good they can call it "Nintendo Incest: Fuck Your Family" and I'll play it. If it sucks they can name it after me and I'll still pass.

Cool for kids I guess. Poor parents.

@AiurFlux said:

I still don't care about the goofy controller. Way I see it Nintendo is an entire generation behind both Sony and Microsoft when it comes to actual hardware in their system, and that's what matters. They always like throwing around the cop-out answer of, "We worry about the experience and not the hardware," when it is the hardware itself that allows developers to do more with their fucking games.

No, actually the software is what matters most. The Wii may be behind the others technologically but there are still great experiences to be had on it. The bigger problem s Nintendo allowing any old shit piece of software to be put on it and not doing a good job helping other developers get a handle on the motion controls.

I'm also curious where you saw Nintendo give that comment you mentioned. The closest thing I've ever seen is Reggie saying they care about the experiences they can deliver, and not what the competitors are doing.

Looks pretty much the same, but LEGO city stories sounds amazing now

All I ask for is a TRUE 1080P zelda and mario and I will buy your system.

If it's 1080p with proper online I will purchase. If not, then no.

It does look uncomfortable to hold especially where they placed the sticks but the iPad is a TERRIBLE design and people seem to have no problem with it. So I will wait and see.

That looks horrible to actually hold and play.

Software is dependent on hardware. Assassin's Creed could not work on 2002 hardware, you'd fit about 12 people on screen before it went to single digit frames. You couldn't do the facial animation and lip syncing of a Mass Effect in 2002. The parts that make Skyrim awesome are not possible 10 years ago.

So yes, hardware is important.

@Cheebahh said:

Looks like cheap, plasticy shit. Suppose it has to be for the kid/casual market though.

Nintendo I've been with you since the NES, through thick and thin, defending you and your silly decisions right up 'til now.

I'm putting it out there, fuck the Wii U.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm no fan of the Wii U, but all controllers are made out of plastic. You think the "casual market" is more into plastic things? What?

YEA everyones right. I never understood any of Nintendos systems, and they have all been my favorites. Nintendo games have taught me more than any other teacher ever has. I'm unsure about the Wii U FUCK NINTENDO. This is surely the instance in time that they pull a 180 and completely change all their values and results. Fuck the Wii U because I'm a retard.

Hey look, Nintendo made a gamegear.

Seriously, that looks like more controller than awesome-tablet-thing.

@gunslingerNZ: yes.

If Randy Pitchford says this in the following link. Then I will believe him.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gearbox-best-looking-version-of-aliens-on-wii-u-best-controller-from-nintendo

What people may not know is that nintendo also added aggressively contoured grips to the underside like a normal gamepad, and it actually looks very comfortable to hold.

To all those talking bout being uncomfortable:

remember all processing is done by the console, the controller itself is therefore very light. Its also shaped exactly like a normal contoller apart from it being wider, meaning it should be even more comfortable for those with bigger hands, and just as comfortable for those used to ps360 controllers.

So glad the circle pads are gone.

good news!

So happy! If this thing turns out to have enough horsepower to not be gimped next generation, I will buy it in a heartbeat.

Yay!

Definition: Ergonomics is the science of work.

Ergonomics derives from two Greek words: ergon, meaning work, and nomoi, meaning natural laws. Combined they create a word that means the science of work and a person’s relationship to that work.

In application ergonomics is a discipline focused on making products and tasks comfortable and efficient for the user.

Can someone please let Nintendo know this is a thing? Just like every other Nintendo controller, it doesn't look at all comfortable or usable.

The sad thing is that I'm going to end up buying it, and it will reside in the same spot as my unused Wii.

Yay, more decently-priced awkward shit I'll never play.

@Sammo21 said:

Could they change it to something I actually want to hold?

Or play?

All I want is a SNES for the modern era. :(

@Patman99 said:

Man, I hate the name. Wii is a fine name but I dont know why they dont just create a new name for their new console.

Should have called it the Wuu. I would buy a Wuu.

@HerbieBug said:

@Sammo21 said:

Could they change it to something I actually want to hold?

Or play?

All I want is a SNES for the modern era. :(

No, that would make too much sense :S

@m0nty said:

Definition: Ergonomics is the science of work.

Ergonomics derives from two Greek words: ergon, meaning work, and nomoi, meaning natural laws. Combined they create a word that means the science of work and a person’s relationship to that work.

In application ergonomics is a discipline focused on making products and tasks comfortable and efficient for the user.

Can someone please let Nintendo know this is a thing? Just like every other Nintendo controller, it doesn't look at all comfortable or usable.

It's funny you say that, because Nintendo controllers have historically been very comfortable to hold, at least in my case. The only exception I'd make to this is the original rectangular NES controller.

@ArcLyte said:

What people may not know is that nintendo also added aggressively contoured grips to the underside like a normal gamepad, and it actually looks very comfortable to hold.

Aggressively contoured? What the heck does that even mean...

@gunslingerNZ said:

@fishless said:

Looks like Nintendo really is getting more serious about winning back favor with core gamers!

You really believe that? How could you possibly play a "core" game with that controller, it would be an impossible, uncomfortable nightmare.

Except nearly every hands-on preview has been positive about how that thing feels in peoples' hands, while also opening wtih "it was a lot more comfortable than I thought it would be".

And I can see a core game controlling very easily with that controller. It has two, clickable sticks. Four face buttons and a D-pad. Two triggers on both the left and right side. Looks like a pretty fucking standard controller aside from that added screen in the center.

@fishless:

Pitchford also called the Wii U controller the "best controller I've ever had from Nintendo for a hardcore first-person shooter."

That's not exactly saying much...

@habibyjohnson said:

Its also shaped exactly like a normal contoller apart from it being wider

No it is shaped nothing like a normal controller, here is an artists impression:

I would have thought the difference was pretty obvious, one was designed for humans.

@gunslingerNZ said:

@fishless:

Pitchford also called the Wii U controller the "best controller I've ever had from Nintendo for a hardcore first-person shooter."

That's not exactly saying much...

@habibyjohnson said:

Its also shaped exactly like a normal contoller apart from it being wider

No it is shaped nothing like a normal controller, here is an artists impression:

I would have thought the difference was pretty obvious, one was designed for humans.

Most of people who tried WiiU controller at E3 2011 said that it is comfortable.

@IronScimitar said:

The Wii U is gonna be a pain in the ass to capture for QLs.

Haha, had not thought about this!

@gunslingerNZ:

Pitchford said it's Nintendo's best controller for1stpersonshooters. I originally said

@fishless said:

Looks like Nintendo really is getting more serious about winning back favor with core gamers!

You say:

You really believe that? How could you possibly play a "core" game with that controller, it would be an impossible, uncomfortable nightmare.

I point to what Pitchford says. And he has a controller. So I will take his word for it.

And you say:

That's not exactly saying much...

Are arguing with me about something I didn't say? Did I say anything like this is the greatest controller ever? no. I said

@fishless said:

Looks like Nintendo really is getting more serious about winning back favor with core gamers!

@fishless: Exactly, It may be Nintendo's best controller for FPS but their track record is so poor that this is still a bungle and not a serious effort at winning back favour with core gamers. I take what Randy said to be more of a backhanded compliment, for example: "the previous post was the most excellent display of reading comprehension I've seen from fishless in this thread!" I don't see why you couldn't understand my meaning...

Never really paid attention to the WiiU controller, but it's a good thing they moved the Start(+) and Select(-) buttons closer to were your hands are going to be.

As for everyone that has been saying that it going to be uncomfortable, I said the same thing about the N64 controller as a kid. (3 handles?, the fuck?) but turned out to be very comfy. Probably should wait 'till they do their pre-release hype tours before passing judgement.

@Lucidlife said:

If it's 1080p with proper online I will purchase. If not, then no.

It does look uncomfortable to hold especially where they placed the sticks but the iPad is a TERRIBLE design and people seem to have no problem with it. So I will wait and see.

I want what you're smoking.