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You Should Demand More From Sony's UMD Passport Program

Sony's UMD-to-Vita service comes across as needlessly exploitative...but it can be fixed.

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I’m not sure I’ve witnessed a more blatant cash grab that came and went without a lick of righteous fanfare from the consumers it gouges more than Sony’s recent revealing of the UMD Passport program. To be fair, it initially passed under my radar, too.

I know, I know, we’re all busy playing through The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim--but still. Listen.

The biggest problem with UMD Passport is not that it costs anything, it's the lacking standards.
The biggest problem with UMD Passport is not that it costs anything, it's the lacking standards.

UMD Passport is Sony’s long-awaited service to give PSP owners a way to magically transport their UMD-based games on the handheld’s soon-launching successor, Vita. Vita does not come with a UMD reader, which means those games are as good as garbage without access to a digital version to play on Vita. Sony talked about implementing a feature like this when PSP go was a thing but it never materialized.

Sony has not announced UMD Passport outside of Japan, and did not answer my latest query about it.

To take advantage of UMD Passport, users must download a “UMD Passport” application to their PSP, insert a compatible UMD, and Sony somehow verifies that UMD (the exact process isn't known). Once that’s done, you gain access to a digital version--for a cost, anyway.

And that’s where it gets weird really fast.

Simply charging for access to a digital copy isn’t worth getting up in arms about. Bandwidth, while cheap, isn’t free, so while one could argue that Sony should take the hit and encourage goodwill amongst early adopters, passing up on a the chance to ask for a little bit of cash in an age of endless monetization is, at this point, expected. It would make sense, then, to implement an across-the-board cost to make the digital conversion, a fee that would cover Sony’s bandwidth costs through PlayStation Network and provide publishers with compensation that encourages everyone to participate in the UMD Passport program.

No such standard exists. While it’s not plainly spelled out in Sony’s announcement (which is roughly but easily translatable through Google), it’s implied that publishers are determining what to charge for this, and it’s clear publishers have zero problem erring on the side of happily padding the bottom line.

Patapon 3 costs more to convert than Hot Shots Golf 2, but without any clear reason why.
Patapon 3 costs more to convert than Hot Shots Golf 2, but without any clear reason why.

The confusion begins with Sony itself unable to lay out what it should be charging for going digital, with Patapon 3 and Gran Turismo costing 1,000 yen ($12.89), while Hot Shots Golf 2 costs 500 yen ($6.44). The only difference between them seems to be release date and labeling--Hot Shots Golf 2 is part of the “best of” lineup in Japan, and was released late 2007. Gran Turismo (2009) and Patapon 3 (2011) came later.

There is no reason for these games to cost any different, except for Sony to be calculating that some games are worth more than others to consumers, giving them a convenient way to ask for more. The easy-to-buy licensing argument is dispelled by Patapon 3 being wholly original.

When this carte blanche approach to price assignment is handed over to third-parties, it’s far worse.

Pachi-Slot Simulator: Treasures transfer Daito Giken Official enclosed Goddess ~ ~ PORTABLE--yes, that’s the actual name--is a pachinko title that costs 5,040 yen ($64.95) right now on Amazon.co.jp, and the Paon Corporation is asking that anyone who has already purchased the game on UMD to pay 2,500 yen ($30.93) for the digital copy. That’s nearly 50% of the original price price--sheer arrogance, and one of that doesn’t try to hide its unadulterated consumer exploitation. It's staring you in the face.

PSP quickly became a go-to platform for tinkerers, and that's only grown more true.
PSP quickly became a go-to platform for tinkerers, and that's only grown more true.

Sony could have a weakly credible argument about allowing publishers to determine pricing if publishers were doing so based on the relevancy of piracy to each product, but as unlocking these digital copies requires the consumer to have a copy of the actual UMD, that doesn’t hold water. One assumes non-UMD holders would have to pay even more.

Anti-consumer moves like these drive people towards piracy by sheer irritation. Make no mistake: Vita will be broken at some point. No device can avoid piracy; each one can only hope to push that day further back.

While piracy is never justified, it’s not hard to imagine a scenario where a Vita owner wants to play the games they already own on a platform that’s fully capable of doing so, and pausing at the hoops they're asked to jump through. Players are consumers, and deserve respect. Such a user may look over and see publishers seizing an opportunity to squeeze dollars from them and pounce at the chance for subversion. As a platform holder, Sony has the ability--and duty--to keep this under control, but it says everything that Sony’s own games don’t adhere to any coherent standard.

What makes this all the more confusing is Sony's progressive approach to MotorStorm RC, which will be released on both Vita and PlayStation 3. No matter which version you purchase, you'll gain access to the other one. Futhermore, in a conversation with GameIndustry.biz, developer Evolution Studios suggested the game may not even cost full-price, a result of aggressive pricing for mobile games changing the dynamics of the industry. One part of Sony does not appear to be talking to the other.

It may be too late for Japanese consumers--is Sony really going to tell the Paon Corporation it suddenly has to charge exponentially less?--but Sony Computer Entertainment America has an opportunity to make this right. The UMD Passport program has not been announced for anywhere outside Japan, which means there’s time for policies to change before they’re set in stone. It may not come here at all, but in the event that it does: do the right thing, SCEA. Don’t screw your own fans.

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Isn't Klepek always telling anyone who will listen that no one cares about the Vita anyway?

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Patrick is just mad cause he didn't get to break the south park rpg story.

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Business have the freedom to be the money grubbing machines they are, we have the freedom not to buy what they're selling.

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i was done with the vita when the whole memory card thing announced. this doesnt help at all

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Edited By akira_22

To all gamers, NONE of these companies owe it to you to let you play games from previous generations on new systems. The ONLY reason this has become 'normal' is because of the CD/DVD/BDR standard of a 12cm disc and sensors that read all formats. The PSP uses a format that isn't compatible with the PS Vita, visa vie Sony does not have to bend over backwards. Get the hell over it, who plays new PSP games anyway, when the Vita comes out you will probably stop playing PSP games in favour of PSV games. If you MUST play PSP games then keep your PSP! Talk to Laser Disc and Beta player owners.

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@wukong said:

All video game prices in Japan are much more variable and often higher than in the west. This is not new or unique to the Passport Program.

Yo, publishers in Japan are charging crazy prices for digital versions of Japanese exclusive titles, why isn't the rest of the world super angry about this! Every other system is backwards compatible with previous generations!

Oh shit, I just realized NES carts don't work in my Wii! And Nintendo wants to charge me full price to play Mario again! I'm gonna go get really angry about it on the internet and call it price gouging because I'm pants-on-head retarded!

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If my japanese Gundam games don't work I will be very sad.

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Simple, I wont pay to play the games that I already own, and when it gets hacked, which it will. I'll pirate everything, happy Sony?

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I highly doubt I will Buy a Vita, as I would rather spend the little extra cash I have on ps3 games instead. being able to get my very limited amount of games from my first edition PSP into it IF I get it down the line would have to be a given.

Only have Daxter, Tales of Eternia,Before crisis and Tekken on it though.. As far as I can remember.. Oh and loco roco, but id probably just get the 2nd for cheapses..

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IF this comes to the US, I wonder if more people will be talking about it.

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"Needlessly exploitative" sounds like every other news item I have heard regarding the Vita. (Memory cards anyone?) I'll just keep playing Infinity Blade II on my iPad for $7.

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Edited By FancySoapsMan

At least they're giving you the option of BC.
 
And besides, I already own a PSP and don't plan on getting rid of it anytime soon.

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It's not the pie in the sky dream everyone wanted where you could just pay $5 or whatever and get a digital copy of a game you already own, then again the Gamecube didn't have a cart slot, did anyone bitch that you couldn't play N64 games in it? Backwards compatibility is nice and all but would you really rather the vita had a UMD drive on it?

This is coming from someone that currently owns a PSP and has the Vita "I'm a crazy person" bundle on preorder. I solved this myself when the Vita was announced by not buying UMD's anymore.

The bigger bummer about this program to me is this probably means the PSP games that are digitally available probably won't be discounted much when the Vita comes out. I was hoping that PSP would just be seen as less valuable and the digital games prices would be lowered across the board. I mean there are still $30 and $40 PSP games on PSN which is pretty dumb. If the price on PSP games was at like $20 at the most post Vita there would be plenty of PSP game I would still play and for some games I'd even be willing to just buy a digital version.

At least it's not a scenario like the PS3 where it started with the functionality and it was later removed.

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Who cares?  They're PSP games and you're buying a Vita.

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@exenpipp said:

Why does Americans have to make such a big thing out of everything? Why do they have to complain all the time?

Just be satisfied with your life!

I'm satisfied with my life and this has nothing to do with that anyway. It's about being taken advantage of and price gouging. There's no reason for them to be charging the prices they are. But whatever...play the "stupid americans" card like every other idiot drone.

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@msavo said:

@MackGyver said:

Sony screwed consumers when they dropped support for the UMD for Vita. Maybe it was the right thing to do but to let publishers charge enormous amounts more for a game you already own just to play it on the Vita?

I would have stuck with a PSP but I'm sure once Vita gets off its feet, Sony will drop the UMD completely.

What the hell is going on Sony?

Did you really want a UMD slot on the Vita?

I would prefer any physical media on the Vita, not necessarily UMD. But we're screwed either way: UMD to digital, you got publishers charging whatever for games you already own just to play on a new system; You go with another physical media, I'm sure something similar will occur.

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And this is one of the many reasons why it's not even worth dealing with handhelds anymore. I'm completely skipping the 3DS/Vita.

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I'm going to hold a mirror up to the staff and say "PSHAW ENTITLEMENT!"
 
Carry on.

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... or you could just buy another PSP and play them up there. I'm pretty sure they'll get cheaper once the Vita comes out, Pat.

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I wish they'd done this for PS3 backwards compatibility. I'd pay half the price of the game to have some PS2 games on my PS3.

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I think Sony has just been a real mess this year, and it's not getting better.

And I sold my PSP shortly after buying it, I would probably do the same with the Vita.

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You should demand more from Giant Bomb's news than yellow journalism and rants pretending to be news...it seems the Alexification of Patrick is now complete, too.

Where did the idea start that any game I buy should be compatible with every system I buy from that company in the future? Nice when it happens, but since when did it become an expectation that the $20 I dropped on Killzone Liberation years ago mean I should be able to play it years later on a completely different hardware?

Oh yeah, I have no intention of buying a Vita anyway. It's an overpriced boat anchor. But I don't need snark filled opinion pieces to tell me I should be outraged and how to handle it.

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Ew, getting motivated to defend my own interests as opposed to being a quiet little consumer? You don't understand society in 2011, Patrick Klepek.

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This is why digital distrabution sucks. Im going to stick with my phisical copys thanks

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@BillyMonks: Your comment is bullshit and you know it actually it's as bullshit as this article, why it's because your not entitled to anything other than your UMD, I think it's a good thing they are offering this because than if you want a copy digitally than you have an option.

If you think they should give away a free copy if you have the UMD, your delusional or just ignorant. I think this is a great thing they are offering even if I don't take advantage of it, The one thing is I hope the fee for the digital version is cheap like around $5 dollars to $10 dollars at the most.

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@MackGyver said:

Sony screwed consumers when they dropped support for the UMD for Vita. Maybe it was the right thing to do but to let publishers charge enormous amounts more for a game you already own just to play it on the Vita?

I would have stuck with a PSP but I'm sure once Vita gets off its feet, Sony will drop the UMD completely.

What the hell is going on Sony?

Did you really want a UMD slot on the Vita?

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I think what Sony hasn't realized is that people don't care enough about their PSP games to pay any more for them. I have two games I legitimately like for it. One's already a digital purchase, and the other I don't want to play anymore anyway. So... whatever.

And that's assuming I even want a Vita, which is a tall order in this day and age hah.

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@lozenge said:

The site has great blogging and forum tools. Why is this in the news section? If it were a blog I'd have no problem with it, but trying to drum up outrage over a program that is only for Japan as a news article seems a bridge too far.

Exactly. I like news in my news section. This was already reported here before, I don't really see the point in this article at all.

This isn't anything like that terms of service stuff from a little while back.

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@chaosnovaxz: Unless you purchased a copy of a game that included a code for a digital version for free, you're not entitled to getting a game you own in another format just because you own it on another. Giving away digital versions of UMD games for free effectively lets people own every UMD game on PSN for free and potentially kills the marketplace when so many people have hundreds of games to play for free with no incentive to buy Vita games.

I could understand wanting the prices to be standardized so that maybe older games from 05-09 are $5 and 10-12 are $10, but demanding anything else beyond that either gets into situations that are harmful for the platform or are unreasonable expectations from people that somehow didn't see that Vita wasn't supporting UMDs about two years ago when the PSP Go launched. It seems like the ideal situation would've been to never offer a UMD Passport Program at all and continue with the promise that PSP games on PSN would be BC for Vita.

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There is no arrogance in this. This is the Japanese market. It's not shocking that Japan's and the US's markets are different. Japanese gamers just accept the cost. Patrick mention before, in the bombcast, how games are A LOT more expensive here in Japan. He is right.

The game market and gamers in Japan are happy to just get the same game with its janky controls and marginal improvements

Earlier this year I was saddened to see that Monster Hunter is destined for the 3DS, not the Vita.They are not adding anything worth paying the price for buying. In many cases is a downgrade from the previous PSP game.

Japanese gamers will still pay. The real question is if Sony will expect the same from the US and European markets, the ones that matter

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Sony is getting a bit too far into the nickel and diming now that the system is cheaper than they want. Sucks for us, but count each of these things (like the memory card prices) as reasons not to buy a Vita. Look! Now I don't own a 3DS or want a Vita. Portable gaming is killing itself to save me money.

And I wanted to like both of the handhelds...

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Not a big deal since the thing's already dead in the water.

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@N7 said:

@AlexW00d said:

I don't get why people are moaning? It says in the fucking article that publishers are setting the prices, not Sony. That is what happens now anyway. That is why EA games are £55 on PSN. Literally nothing is different.

Who the fuck wants a vita to play PSP games? If you have PSP games you have a PSP, don't be such a fuckwit.

This post needs to be posted on every page of this article. People don't even know why they're mad. People need to drop the pitch-forks and pick up some logic. Or some weed.

This, and not just the part about weed.

EDIT: I still have a PS2, which I use to play Persona 4 and Tales of the Abyss. Because I have a PS2, I don't need to play them on my PS3. This is no different.

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@chaosnovaxz said:

@Curufinwe: Give away their games for free? We're talking about getting a digital version of something you've already bought, not buying a game you don't have.

Besides Valve and a few Steam games, I don't know how you think it's expected you can also get a free digital version just because you bought the disc.

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Sony screwed consumers when they dropped support for the UMD for Vita. Maybe it was the right thing to do but to let publishers charge enormous amounts more for a game you already own just to play it on the Vita?

I would have stuck with a PSP but I'm sure once Vita gets off its feet, Sony will drop the UMD completely.

What the hell is going on Sony?

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The site has great blogging and forum tools. Why is this in the news section? If it were a blog I'd have no problem with it, but trying to drum up outrage over a program that is only for Japan as a news article seems a bridge too far.

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@Curufinwe: Give away their games for free? We're talking about getting a digital version of something you've already bought, not buying a game you don't have.

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Sony should set some policies if they want Vita to take off. I'm going to just pirate all the games for Vita because of this article. Now I just have to wait for it to come out so I can steal one.

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Makes me glad I have a PSP that I bought Brand new last year. Fuck this nonsense

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@AlexW00d said:

I don't get why people are moaning? It says in the fucking article that publishers are setting the prices, not Sony. That is what happens now anyway. That is why EA games are £55 on PSN. Literally nothing is different.

Who the fuck wants a vita to play PSP games? If you have PSP games you have a PSP, don't be such a fuckwit.

This post needs to be posted on every page of this article. People don't even know why they're mad. People need to drop the pitch-forks and pick up some logic. Or some weed.
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Why is everyone so angry about this article? Everyone in the comments is either saying that the PSP has no good games, or that paying extra for a digital copy is a great deal. The PSP has a large number of very high quality games. Forcing consumers to pay extra for digital copies is always pure bullshit. And all the people who are saying that they will hold onto their original psp to play umds are batshit insane. So you're going to carry around 2 devices in your pocket to play the games you already own? Don't buy into the corporate mentality that you don't have a right to the intellectual property you paid for. It is LEGAL to make one backup of nearly any piece of intellectual property you own for personal use. Companies have managed to bend the law to suck every last drop of value out of anything by applying encryption and getting government to pass legislation making it illegal to break those encryptions. You have a right to the content you paid for, but I guess Sony has the right idea, since you fucking fanboys are either preemptively declaring Vita as garbage or salivating at the chance to slurp up some anti-consumer bullshit.

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Sony will burn in hell for this

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Also I'm going to go write an article on why my MSX games don't work on my 360 and why Microsoft are evil because of it.

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I have problems with the half-assedness of the whole deal. Its almost as if this DL-based service was a continuation of the dead Go, and would have been much smoother had that taken off as the PSP.5 that Sony was angling for.

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I agree it may be a sloppy way of handling this but i think it would have been perfectly fine for the vita to not support any umd games at all. I mean if you have a psp just keep that. If sony gets this down i think it is a cool feature if you have a favorite game or two you want to keep on playing and throw it on the vita. but other then that i don't expect someone to try and transfer all their umd games over.

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I don't get why people are moaning? It says in the fucking article that publishers are setting the prices, not Sony. That is what happens now anyway. That is why EA games are £55 on PSN. Literally nothing is different.

Who the fuck wants a vita to play PSP games? If you have PSP games you have a PSP, don't be such a fuckwit.

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Well just look at how they handled the trophy situation, they basically left it up to the developers to include them which was inconsistent and sending mixed messages. Sony needs to put its foot down and have some sort of regulation instead of treating issues like this like one of those White trash teen mom's on MTV where they basically don't give a shit and leave it up to the kids to raise themselves.

It took Sony too long to introduce trophies, but eventually they mandated that publishers include them in every game. But the idea that Sony just needs to "put its foot down" in order to force publishers to give away their games for free is ridiculous.

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Never bought a PSP so not too worried about the whole heavy shaft Sony is applying to the customers.  Most of my interest in Vita is not having to own a PS3 since it seems most of everything is coming out on either or.   The idea of owning all the consoles now, without say - having the most crowded entertainment center yet seems pretty good to me.  
 
Also, having had an ipod touch, and played a good number of games - I'd have to say that there is no way that the "Quality" of games offered on that machine have in any way soured me against portable gaming.

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I'd like Sony to be better at this stuff too, but lets be realistic here.

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Ummm, Pachi-Slot Simulator: Treasures transfer Daito Giken Official enclosed Goddess is only exploiting you if you purchase it without feeling it's worth the $30.93. Why would you do that? It's there for the half-dozen dudes who want to play Pachi-Slot Simulator: Treasures transfer Daito Giken Official enclosed Goddess, and there's an understanding that because they are part of the extremely small subset of individuals who want to play Pachi-Slot Simulator: Treasures transfer Daito Giken Official enclosed Goddess, they will have to pay more. The Japanese market prices to the ceiling of niche audiences while the Western market prices to the lowest common denominator. They are equally crass and profit-oriented. I'm not going to get righteously indignant about how their capitalism isn't the correct capitalism.