I couldn't agree more with you. I'm done with Obsidian now, I got burned on Alpha Protocol pretty badly, didn't think they could screw up Fallout but they managed it. 
 
I'm going to treat there name and logo as an instant no go zone on games from now on. 

Obsidian + notoriously glitchy engine = something that gives me nightmares. Sorry to hear that you got screwed like that, but damn if it wasn't telegraphed a bit with Alpha Protocol.

How can people make excuses for this kind of shit? If this wasn't Fallout everyone would hate this game and it wouldn't have reviewed well. 

Thought: Can't you spawn said hat with the console?
Or are we too early for such things :P

" How can people make excuses for this kind of shit? If this wasn't Fallout everyone would hate this game and it wouldn't have reviewed well.  "

" I couldn't agree more with you. I'm done with Obsidian now, I got burned on Alpha Protocol pretty badly, didn't think they could screw up Fallout but they managed it.  I'm going to treat there name and logo as an instant no go zone on games from now on.  "

Not to be that guy, but this is why you keep multiple save files. Every 5th-10th save I do I make a new one, just in case.  
 
It's not like it wasn't well known that this was going to have a ton of bugs. The game lost a star in Jeff's review because of that. Every other Gamebryo game has been like that... 

" Not to be that guy, but this is why you keep multiple save files. Every 5th-10th save I do I make a new one, just in case.   It's not like it wasn't well known that this was going to have a ton of bugs. The game lost a star in Jeff's review because of that. Every other Gamebryo game has been like that...  "

Maybe they should just let Obsidian do the storytelling and Bethesda do the gameplay stuff.

" @RE_Player92 said:

" How can people make excuses for this kind of shit? If this wasn't Fallout everyone would hate this game and it wouldn't have reviewed well.  "

Because Obsidian has excellent writing, and the bugs aren't really entirely their fault beings as the engine itself is broken. 
 
@Soap said:

" I couldn't agree more with you. I'm done with Obsidian now, I got burned on Alpha Protocol pretty badly, didn't think they could screw up Fallout but they managed it.  I'm going to treat there name and logo as an instant no go zone on games from now on.  "

Your done with Obsidian because their game on a half broken engine is half broken? You realize Fallout 3 was quite broken as well, and a lot of the bugs that are in New Vegas are also in Fallout 3.(Or were before patches) "

I'm so sick of everybody whining over the glitches. Reviewers and players alike are utterly roasting the game on account of it being a technical embarrassment. All of these people are fools. The game is buggy, but not to the point people are making it seems. I'm 30 hours in and Haven't experienced anything major ( 2 crashes and some scripting stuff). If people would stop whining about the little things they would find one of the best games released this year. My advice is to hop of the QQ band wagon and actually experience the game. /End rant.
 
Also this inst really directed to you OP that does sound like it sucks, but I haven't ran into anything like that. I'm just sick of all these idiots whining about how utterly broken the game is, when in reality it's fine.

Gosh, I still haven't run into any major bugs yet. :/ Just occasional clipping issues. Must be because I put a few extra points into my luck stat.

@KyleDaniels said:

"  The game is buggy, but not to the point people are making it seems." 

Hopefully they'll patch most of the bugs by Christmas when I'll get the game.

" I'm so sick of everybody whining over the glitches. Reviewers and players alike are utterly roasting the game on account of it being a technical embarrassment. All of these people are fools. The game is buggy, but not to the point people are making it seems. I'm 30 hours in and Haven't experienced anything major ( 2 crashes and some scripting stuff). If people would stop whining about the little things they would find one of the best games released this year. My advice is to hop of the QQ band wagon and actually experience the game. /End rant.  Also this inst really directed to you OP that does sound like it sucks, but I haven't ran into anything like that. I'm just sick of all these idiots whining about how utterly broken the game is, when in reality it's fine. "

Anyone who plays a gamebryo engine game without saving every hour or so in a new slot is asking for trouble. 
Anyone who plays an obsidian game without saving every 30ish min in a new slot is asking for trouble.  
 
Would be like Kojima making a final fantasy game then complaining about cutscene length, just the combo it was basically guaranteed to be fucking busted.  Not to mention impressions/reviews told you, yo shit's broken. 

 
When I get GOTY version a year from now with DLC etc even with patches or renting this through gamefly damn sure I'll be saving literally every time I complete anything. 
 
OP doesn't say but if you didn't have a save pre that quest that was fairly recent you were kinda asking for it (not that it makes broken games ok, just that common sense could have prevented this).

" @KyleDaniels said:

" I'm so sick of everybody whining over the glitches. Reviewers and players alike are utterly roasting the game on account of it being a technical embarrassment. All of these people are fools. The game is buggy, but not to the point people are making it seems. I'm 30 hours in and Haven't experienced anything major ( 2 crashes and some scripting stuff). If people would stop whining about the little things they would find one of the best games released this year. My advice is to hop of the QQ band wagon and actually experience the game. /End rant.  Also this inst really directed to you OP that does sound like it sucks, but I haven't ran into anything like that. I'm just sick of all these idiots whining about how utterly broken the game is, when in reality it's fine. "

If I was the type who felt inclined to type in all caps for this, I would. But to retain effect, I will underline:
 
The guy lost 20 hours of gameplay. What the eff kind of fine game does that? "

Now you know to always buy your Gamebryo games on a home computer.  So, at least you got something out of the experience.
 
Now, excuse me while I use the command console to give myself 300 old cowboy hats, just to spite you.
 
Sorry for being an asshole.  That sucks dude. For real.

Holy shit, I would get pissed. That said, this is why I have atleast 10 saves, so that I can go far enough back if anything screws up. I've learned the hard way as well.

I save at least every hour or two to make sure this doesn't happen.  So far Im 20 hours in and have had 1 crash and some Ai small glitches. Buggy game? yeah. Great game? Yes

More buggy than Fallout 3? Damn. I guess me not being able to buy it at this time is good, when I finally can buy it maybe Obsidian will have released an update or something.

I bought New Vegas the first day it was out but, after hearing all the stories of messed up bugs. I'm waiting for the patches to come out before I play it.

 Pro tip: Make 10 save files. When you need to save, save over the oldest save file. By the time you save over that same save file again, a good portion of time will have passed. Easiest way to manager multiple saves for instances like this. 
 
Luckily, 12 hours in, I haven't had to go back to a previous save.

How can any company ship a game this messed up?

"@nemt:  So let me get this straight. You knew of Obsidian's past in terms of quality. Then, you refused to read any review for it as they all decried the bugs in the game. So you bought the game anyway and now you're frustrated by the bugs and deficiencies in quality that the game has?  Sounds to me like you shouldn't be angry at Obsidian / Bethesda you should be angry for dropping out of elementary school.   The product didn't buy itself, you bought it in complete ignorance. Caveat Emptor. "

" @BunkerBuster said:

"@nemt:  So let me get this straight. You knew of Obsidian's past in terms of quality. Then, you refused to read any review for it as they all decried the bugs in the game. So you bought the game anyway and now you're frustrated by the bugs and deficiencies in quality that the game has?  Sounds to me like you shouldn't be angry at Obsidian / Bethesda you should be angry for dropping out of elementary school.   The product didn't buy itself, you bought it in complete ignorance. Caveat Emptor. "

No previous Obsidian game had anything that made the game completely unplayable, barring save game corruption.  Jeff's review on this site gave it four stars and didn't mention game breaking bugs.  As far as I can tell no professional review mentioned anything this bad, despite it being a widespread issue, not saying they dropped the ball but to claim HURR DURR U DUM is really pretty stupid on your part.    I think maybe you're the one who dropped out of elementary school, you seem to lack basic manners and common sense.  As you're an insufferable jackass please refrain from replying to my threads/blogs in the future. "

Wow, this thread didn't degenerate quickly or anything, did it?
 
Maybe the reviews didn't mention game breaking bugs because the reviewers didn't experience any? I mean, a lot of us aren't experiencing game breaking bugs. Just minor inconveniences. And while it's a bit silly to put all the blame on the OP for not saving often enough, there's certainly some blame to be placed there. After all, if you're encountering problems it makes sense to be extra careful. And he wasn't. The bud needn't have caused him to lose 20 hours of gameplay if he'd been saving regularly, as one almost always does in this sort of game, whether or not it's made by Obsidian.
 
Anyway, there was a patch this afternoon on the Xbox. I don't know what it fixed, since I'm not having any problems. Anyone else have any ideas?

That is truly unfortunate, nemt. I don't blame you for any of it. Perhaps you should try to get a refund... oh, wait, the stupid game market considers a played game a used one, so, unlike any other broken media, you can't get a refund for bugs.  
 
That aside, your detractors on here are committing two basic fallacies: 
 
One: Mean Exposure Fallacy: What one person, or even a couple, experienced does not define the general experience. If the game did not fuck you over, that does not deny the poor experience of others. Nor does their poor experience deny your good one. Indeed, if you haven't had a bad time, why are you on here bitching out people that did? Shouldn't you be playing your unbroken game? 
 
Two: Victim Blaming: Advice for how a victim could have avoided being hurt is not advice--it cannot help the already committed offense. Someone compared it to stubbing a toe. Let me go a bit more sensational. If a beaten woman comes to you describing her abuse, do you chide her about dating such a violent guy? Do you blame her for not seeing him for what he was? Or, worse, for not just keeping her mouth shut? Why are we defending a developer that clearly doesn't care about its customers, just their money? Some of you need to seriously think about your allegiances. 

I'm about 20 hours in and so far I've had the game lockup once and had to reload a save because a quest couldn't be completed (there were two guys that I needed to kill that were completely frozen in place and could not be damaged). Of course that's in addition to the general AI oddities and inconsistent framerate.
 
However, I find myself thoroughly enjoying this game in spite of those issues. Hopefully some patches will be coming to alleviate some of these problems, but more importantly, hopefully Obsidian will make enough money off of this game that they'll be able to afford to make some drastic improvements to their coding practices by retraining their current staff or hiring some new top notch software engineers.

Well...for the two days that I played the game nonstop, it was awesome. But after the patch I can't load any of my saves (and I saved on a dozen different files at different sections of the game just in case something happened) and I'm not starting over. I'm going back to Kirby: Epic Yarn and Enslaved.

" @CL60 said:

" @RE_Player92 said:

" How can people make excuses for this kind of shit? If this wasn't Fallout everyone would hate this game and it wouldn't have reviewed well.  "

Because Obsidian has excellent writing, and the bugs aren't really entirely their fault beings as the engine itself is broken. 
 

@Soap

said:

" I couldn't agree more with you. I'm done with Obsidian now, I got burned on Alpha Protocol pretty badly, didn't think they could screw up Fallout but they managed it.  I'm going to treat there name and logo as an instant no go zone on games from now on.  "

Your done with Obsidian because their game on a half broken engine is half broken? You realize Fallout 3 was quite broken as well, and a lot of the bugs that are in New Vegas are also in Fallout 3.(Or were before patches) "

No i'm done with them because there last two games have been utter shit and while Fallout 3 was semi broken it was at least fun and showed some creativity. New Vegas might as well be a fucking paint by numbers.  "

"  @nemt said: 

It took amateur programmers a handful of man hours to fix almost every bug/glitch in Kotor 2.  Obsidian [b]just doesn't care[/b].  They're lazy or incompetent or both. "

Well, when people buy their games regardless of the state they're released in ... "

"Two: Victim Blaming: Advice for how a victim could have avoided being hurt is not advice--it cannot help the already committed offense. Someone compared it to stubbing a toe. Let me go a bit more sensational. If a beaten woman comes to you describing her abuse, do you chide her about dating such a violent guy? Do you blame her for not seeing him for what he was? Or, worse, for not just keeping her mouth shut? Why are we defending a developer that clearly doesn't care about its customers, just their money? Some of you need to seriously think about your allegiances.  "

I'm so sick of everybody whining over the glitches. Reviewers and players alike are utterly roasting the game on account of it being a technical embarrassment. All of these people are fools. The game is buggy, but not to the point people are making it seems. I'm 30 hours in and Haven't experienced anything major ( 2 crashes and some scripting stuff). If people would stop whining about the little things they would find one of the best games released this year. My advice is to hop of the QQ band wagon and actually experience the game. /End rant.
 
Also this inst really directed to you OP that does sound like it sucks, but I haven't ran into anything like that. I'm just sick of all these idiots whining about how utterly broken the game is, when in reality it's fine.

Yep, let's just have two pseudo-RPG makers, Bethesda and Bioware. A duopoly is a good thing, right?

" @Soap said:

" @CL60 said:

" @RE_Player92 said:

" How can people make excuses for this kind of shit? If this wasn't Fallout everyone would hate this game and it wouldn't have reviewed well.  "

Because Obsidian has excellent writing, and the bugs aren't really entirely their fault beings as the engine itself is broken. 
 

@Soap

said:

" I couldn't agree more with you. I'm done with Obsidian now, I got burned on Alpha Protocol pretty badly, didn't think they could screw up Fallout but they managed it.  I'm going to treat there name and logo as an instant no go zone on games from now on.  "

Your done with Obsidian because their game on a half broken engine is half broken? You realize Fallout 3 was quite broken as well, and a lot of the bugs that are in New Vegas are also in Fallout 3.(Or were before patches) "

No i'm done with them because there last two games have been utter shit and while Fallout 3 was semi broken it was at least fun and showed some creativity. New Vegas might as well be a fucking paint by numbers.  "

Who cares if it's the same as Fallout 3? The pacing, and the story is far better then that of Fallout 3, Obsidian has great writers. But I don't feel like arguing with you, because judging by your posting history from the last few hours...all you want to do is hate on the game.    5 hours, 57 minutes ago  -  New Vegas is empty.... Empty    5 hours, 4 minutes ago  -   Fallout New Vegas is my game of the year 2008! :D oh... Wait.  3 hours, 34 minutes ago  -  Will I be able to return fallout new Vegas to hmv for the reason that it's just crap?   3 hours, 4 minutes ago  -  a 1 star review  So yes, I'm not arguing with you anymore, because clearly all you want to do is hate on the game all day.  "

Hey guys, you have to expect game breaking bugs when playing games that you paid money for.