@LlamaNL If we get 5,000 subscribers by 10amPST on 9/10, the Bombcast goes free for everyone. Forever. Deal? http://twitter.com/whiskeymedia
Was going to sub...now going to make damn sure I sub before 9/10. After reading tweets from Ryan like " http://twitter.com/taswell/status/23967198880 trying our damndest to stay in business" basically pushes out the negativity towards some of the details to me. If gb died :( FUUUUU sub before the tenth so GB lives and the stupid split doesn't happen.
Not going to, simply because I think this is the best, business wise, for Whiskey Media, and I'd rather have a split bombcast than no Giantbomb at all...Ryan and friends on twitter have made clear that they pretty much have to make money on this now to stay in business.
I was going to subscribe anyway. I still like the idea of two chunks though, one for "news" stuff toward the end of the week when the news is still fresh, and the "what you've been playing" stuff toward the beginning of the week. Makes sense, no?
"Are we paying for it to be free? What? I'm sorry, I'm confused. "
I think it means that if 5000 people sign up for paid membership they won't split it. Most likely because they will be making enough money to justify them not needing to split it.
Don't want to sound too cynical here, but I doubt GB was ever truly in trouble of going out of business. If that was the case, it would've been Whiskey Media's fault for expanding when it didn't have the money. I believe GB is far and away WM's cash cow, so if they were in trouble, a smart business would've closed down other less popular sites and directed those resources to GB.
" Don't want to sound too cynical here, but I doubt GB was ever truly in trouble of going out of business. If that was the case, it would've been Whiskey Media's fault for expanding when it didn't have the money. I believe GB is far and away WM's cash cow, so if they were in trouble, a smart business would've closed down other less popular sites and directed those resources to GB. "
Cash cow when they have the largest staff, consume the most bandwidth, buy a ton of games, and do an insane amount of business travel with little to no ad revenue to justify the expense? Giantbomb is probably the greatest cash sink for WM. Hell, anime vice is probably the most profitable site because the marginal cost for content per user is insanely low.
@justamat: Yeh, but I thought the official word was they left of their own accord not fired, and definitely not due to money trouble on Whiskey Media's part. Also wasn't that before WM expanded, so if they were in dire need of cash, they'd put Screened on hold.
@omghisam said:
" @Damien said:
" Don't want to sound too cynical here, but I doubt GB was ever truly in trouble of going out of business. If that was the case, it would've been Whiskey Media's fault for expanding when it didn't have the money. I believe GB is far and away WM's cash cow, so if they were in trouble, a smart business would've closed down other less popular sites and directed those resources to GB. "
Cash cow when have the largest staff, consume the most bandwidth, buy a ton of games, and do an insane amount of business travel with little to no ad revenue? Giantbomb is probably the greatest cash sink for WM. Hell, anime vice is probably the most profitable site because the marginal cost for content per user is insanely low. "
Ok so they do have the largest staff. You got me there. Probably do consume the most bandwidth due to their popularity (If bandwidth costs were a major issue, I fail to see how HD video content would lessen that problem.) I don't know how many games they buy. I was under the impression the majority of the serious games and not the '$10 bad game from BBY we thought would be funny for a QL' were given by the publishers for review purposes. And also under the impression that most of the travel for events is paid for by the publishers again, save for E3 and PAX and maybe one other convention, though I would've guessed that they would've planned for those costs.
Just to clarify my point, I'm not judging or condemning WM for having this pay service. I'm just trying to say that I don't think this was a matter of 'OMG we have to do this and split up the Bombcast or else GB will shut down' that some seem to be inferring from twitter. I'm seeing it more as a 'more revenue would be nice for the staff of Whiskey Media and the investors would like to see a return on their investment' type of deal.
" @LlamaNL If we get 5,000 subscribers by 10amPST on 9/10, the Bombcast goes free for everyone. Forever. Deal? http://twitter.com/whiskeymedia
Was going to sub...now going to make damn sure I sub before 9/10. After reading tweets from Ryan like " http://twitter.com/taswell/status/23967198880 trying our damndest to stay in business" basically pushes out the negativity towards some of the details to me. If gb died :( FUUUUU sub before the tenth so GB lives and the stupid split doesn't happen. "
If you genuinely want to subscribe, that's great. But don't let them fucking guilt trip you into it.
" Not going to, simply because I think this is the best, business wise, for Whiskey Media, and I'd rather have a split bombcast than no Giantbomb at all...Ryan and friends on twitter have made clear that they pretty much have to make money on this now to stay in business. "
" @LlamaNL If we get 5,000 subscribers by 10amPST on 9/10, the Bombcast goes free for everyone. Forever. Deal? http://twitter.com/whiskeymedia
Was going to sub...now going to make damn sure I sub before 9/10. After reading tweets from Ryan like " http://twitter.com/taswell/status/23967198880 trying our damndest to stay in business" basically pushes out the negativity towards some of the details to me. If gb died :( FUUUUU sub before the tenth so GB lives and the stupid split doesn't happen. "
If you want to pay, that's great. But don't let them fucking guilt trip you into it. "
If they had a donate button I would have donated over 50 easily the last two years, but from what dave/ryan have been saying I feel like I'm paying 50 not for hd videos a friday show and then features I won't use, but to keep the other stuff being made AT ALL. There hasn't been any game I've enjoyed as much or as long as gb so I'm paying even if the split bombcast thing really rubs me the wrong way.
" @LlamaNL If we get 5,000 subscribers by 10amPST on 9/10, the Bombcast goes free for everyone. Forever. Deal? http://twitter.com/whiskeymedia
Was going to sub...now going to make damn sure I sub before 9/10. After reading tweets from Ryan like " http://twitter.com/taswell/status/23967198880 trying our damndest to stay in business" basically pushes out the negativity towards some of the details to me. If gb died :( FUUUUU sub before the tenth so GB lives and the stupid split doesn't happen. "
If you want to pay, that's great. But don't let them fucking guilt trip you into it. "
If they had a donate button I would have donated over 50 easily the last two years, but from what dave/ryan have been saying I feel like I'm paying 50 not for hd videos a friday show and then features I won't use, but to keep the other stuff being made AT ALL. There hasn't been any game I've enjoyed as much or as long as gb so I'm paying even if the split bombcast thing really rubs me the wrong way. "
No, I'm with you. Giant Bomb is FAR AND AWAY my favorite game site. And if they had a donate button or an actual store I would have given them much more than $50 by now. I sincerely hope that they wouldn't lie to us, however the very fact that they're throwing a damn four hour block party tells me they might be exaggerating their financial woes a bit.
" @LlamaNL If we get 5,000 subscribers by 10amPST on 9/10, the Bombcast goes free for everyone. Forever. Deal? http://twitter.com/whiskeymedia
Was going to sub...now going to make damn sure I sub before 9/10. After reading tweets from Ryan like " http://twitter.com/taswell/status/23967198880 trying our damndest to stay in business" basically pushes out the negativity towards some of the details to me. If gb died :( FUUUUU sub before the tenth so GB lives and the stupid split doesn't happen. "
If you want to pay, that's great. But don't let them fucking guilt trip you into it. "
If they had a donate button I would have donated over 50 easily the last two years, but from what dave/ryan have been saying I feel like I'm paying 50 not for hd videos a friday show and then features I won't use, but to keep the other stuff being made AT ALL. There hasn't been any game I've enjoyed as much or as long as gb so I'm paying even if the split bombcast thing really rubs me the wrong way. "
No, I'm with you. Giant Bomb is FAR AND AWAY my favorite game site. And if they had a donate button or an actual store I would have given them much more than $50 by now. I sincerely hope that they wouldn't lie to us, however the very fact that they're throwing a damn four hour block party tells me they might be exaggerating their financial woes a bit. "
Yeah dave also just said on the new bombcast "We just bought a ton of new equipment" and The big live live show is actually crazy expensive to produce. So if they were actually in a bad way they would not buy new stuff, not put on the big live live show and some people would be fired.
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