Give Bombcast Freedom with Spoilers

People have been  complaining about having Mass Effect 2's Wrex thing spoiled by Brad in the Bombcast.Subsequently, he spent the next Bombcast having to choose his words far too carefully as to not spoil anything else. The Wrex thing was hardly that big a deal and not so integral to the plot or anything, but now we won't get the Bombcast's cast's entire uncensored opinion about their game experiences, which I found to be one of the more interesting parts of said Bombcast. I say we just let them say whatever the hell they want. I doubt they'd ever spoil anything really important.

I completely agree... and the Wrex thing was barely a spoiler at all, it was just the set-up to the greater story arks that would subsequently open up after finding out what Brad said about Wrex with the character imports.

I didn't think the Wrex thing was really a spoiler but as Ryan said at one point when people started ragging on the Bombcast for spoilers, there's no real set standard for what a spoiler is. I don't think the Bombcast crew should be allowed to say whatever they like because if they wanted I do think they could drop some huge spoilers which is something I seriously don't want and I think a lot of other people don't want. I say just keep things as they are, I trust the Bombcast crew to exercise the right judgment in what it is okay to reveal about a game and what it is not.

I completely agree with Gamer_152.  If they want to talk about things that could potentially be considered as spoilers to other people, they should at least put a time stamp system in place for their podcast.

It's weird how people will complain about spoilers on the bombcast and yet on the forums there's a million threads like 'How to do the mission where is Edward Norton is actually Tyler Durden *spoilers inside*' and that's OK.

" It's weird how people will complain about spoilers on the bombcast and yet on the forums there's a million threads like 'How to do the mission where is Edward Norton is actually Tyler Durden *spoilers inside*' and that's OK. "

"I completely agree with Gamer_152.  If they want to talk about things that could potentially be considered as spoilers to other people, they should at least put a time stamp system in place for their podcast. "

Just don't give spoilers for the latest games, but I think it's ok if they talk openly about games from past years.  If you so strongly want to avoid spoilers of old games then you shouldn't even be on the internet.

No, I still think it was fucked up.  It was over 2 weeks before the launch of the game.  I mean come on.

" No, I still think it was fucked up.  It was over 2 weeks before the launch of the game.  I mean come on. "

" @HandsomeDead said:

" It's weird how people will complain about spoilers on the bombcast and yet on the forums there's a million threads like 'How to do the mission where is Edward Norton is actually Tyler Durden *spoilers inside*' and that's OK. "

The diffrence is that they are clearly marked and can be easily avoided but when you are listenting to a podcast either they dont mention it, in which case it will potentially spoil it, or they will gave a vauge time frame, which is annoying having to manually move when you are listening to it plus its not exact so you may catch the end of the spoilers, or they will edit in after it someone saying something like "To avoid spoilers go to XX:XX", which is still annoying having to manually move but it means you definately avoid spoilers. "

" @Shadow said:

" No, I still think it was fucked up.  It was over 2 weeks before the launch of the game.  I mean come on. "

Who cares? It doesn't alter your experience of the game at all.   People need to get over this whole spoilers thing. Spoilers suck. I know and I agree. But stuff like this doesn't change your experience. I would hate for the guys not to speak their mind because a bunch of whiners can't deal with knowing ANYTHING about a game. "

I love the Giantbomb guys, but I think they're pretty liberal with their spoilers.  I think I actually know how Assassin's Creed 2 ends just from the snippets they talk about on the podcast.  Not only have I not played Assassin's Creed 2, I haven't played Assassin's Creed 1.  I barely know anything about the fiction or the games, but I figured out how it ended from their conversations.
 
@HatKing said:

" You know what... if you don't want to hear about Mass Effect 2 then turn it the fuck off when they say "let's talk about Mass Effect 2."

"It is on Bioware for putting that info out there and if you are mad about that..."

"Who cares? It doesn't alter your experience of the game at all.   People need to get over this whole spoilers thing. Spoilers suck. I know and I agree. But stuff like this doesn't change your experience. I would hate for the guys not to speak their mind because a bunch of whiners can't deal with knowing ANYTHING about a game. "

"I love the Giantbomb guys, but I think they're pretty liberal with their spoilers.  I think I actually know how Assassin's Creed 2 ends just from the snippets they talk about on the podcast.  Not only have I not played Assassin's Creed 2, I haven't played Assassin's Creed 1.  I barely know anything about the fiction or the games, but I figured out how it ended from their conversations.
 
@HatKing said:

" You know what... if you don't want to hear about Mass Effect 2 then turn it the fuck off when they say "let's talk about Mass Effect 2."

Fair enough.  Actually exactly what I did.  When I heard them start talking about it I skipped way ahead.  The next week when they were all collectively sighing about the internet and how upset it was about spoilers, I figured I made the right call.  
 
@HatKing said:

"It is on Bioware for putting that info out there and if you are mad about that..."

I actually am.  I feel like Bioware released way too much information about this game before it was out.  I basically went on media blackout for it, and I'm glad I did.  "

I don't mind spoilers as much if the game's story still holds up as a result. Take Bioshock for instance. I knew just about every major plot point that was going to happen and I still got just as much out of it because it was well executed. 
 
If someone is really that intent on avoiding spoilers, then they should just avoid any major video game website, podcast, or whatever.

" I love the Giantbomb guys, but I think they're pretty liberal with their spoilers.  I think I actually know how Assassin's Creed 2 ends just from the snippets they talk about on the podcast.  Not only have I not played Assassin's Creed 2, I haven't played Assassin's Creed 1.  I barely know anything about the fiction or the games, but I figured out how it ended from their conversations.
 

Then I'd start listening less if I have to worry about spoilers.

When the "spoiler" contains information that the game designers themselves are consciously putting out, wanting as many people to pick up as possible, I have no problems with the Bombcast crew "spoiling" me to their hearts' content.

i think it would be cool if we saw more dedicated bombcasts for big games, like the giant spoiler snakecast, which i listened to recently and it made me want to play through mgs4 again

I guess you could ask the guys to talk about spoiler sensitive material at the end part of the show... but getting all upset about the guys doing their job is just stupid.
They report on games. And that includes reporting the direct information given from developers and publishers to their audience. The devs do a Press Statement on a game, these guys report it... 
 
If you are bothered or upset at all about any spoilers with ME2, your gripe is with Bioware, and you should expend your energy on their forums if you actually want your points to have a chance to affect anything ever. 
 
I would like a better definition on what a spoiler is though. I for one DO want to here these guys discuss the endings and crazy or crucial parts of games. In detail. Fair enough the first month might be a bit to soon to be talking about it openly, but after 4 weeks... the people who really care have most likely played it by then. I think any longer than that and the guys, and myself, are not going to remember as much, or be as passionate about crazy parts of the game, as we were around the time of actually playing it. 

@AdMordem: 
 
 
I agree with you.  People need sometime to finish a game and especially with reviewers sometimes getting advance copies they should wait to discuss story and such.  I think a few weeks is long enough to give people time to finish a game.  Just when they go to talk about the game and OMG spoilers they should say so then if you don't want to hear them turn the podcast off.   
 
But what makes a spoiler?  Some people could say it's anything they don't know about a game being revealed, but that's silly.  I think of spoilers as being story related.   
 
Major spoilers are story reveals or major plot twists coming out.  
 
Minor spoilers which seem to be what people are getting all bent out of shape about are just that minor.   
 
I want to go back to the Wrex thing as an example.  Just saying Wrex is in the game is just a minor spoiler.  I heard the podcast  where it was talked about and it wasn't a big deal.  But if Brad had said Wrex is in the game and guess what he's the final boss for whatever reason I could see people getting upset.  BTW I havent played ME2 so if that really happens my mistake for ruining it.
   

Just remember that they are games journalists, who could potentially get copies of games earlier than most regular people who would listen to the site.  You don't even have the oft-used excuse of "Well then you should have played it, fag!"  

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I agree, I really don't care what they say in the bombcast. It's supposed to be interesting. If you don't wanna hear about a game, then turn the damn thing off. I understand if they are just giving away the ending, but they are clearly not. I'm just glad that someone has access to games early that can relay that information back to me for free. I want them to say whatever they damn well please.

I still fully enjoyed reading the Half Blood Prince after being told that Snape kills Dumbledore."

I prefer their podcasts dedicated to specific games for spoiler discussions (such as the Modern Warfare 2cast). This allows them to avoid pissing people off, talk in detail about the finer details of the story, and people who don't care about the game at all can ignore the conversation all together. I would love for them to do a Mass Effect 2cast for me to listen to once I finish up the last couple missions. 
 
Also, I didn't think the Wrex thing was a big deal 

This topic is full of goddamn spoilers!

I'd strongly prefer the Bombcast stay super censored with spoilers.  Hell, censor all major spoilers for a year or more!
 
However, the Mass Effect spoilers they gave out didn't bother me.  That level of spoiler is OK.

I'd prefer to not have to worry about any spoilers in the Bombcast. Sometimes I let it run while I'm going to sleep and I don't want to have to jump out of bed to stop or fast forward it if I'm about to hear something I don't want to.