I want ot adress the GB community on this (about Leigh)
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Ok, im pretty much kinda copying and pasting what I said in the comment section for the Live stream, but this is something I really wanna press on the community.
Can we please stop with all these Leigh Alexander bashing threads? I mean, what are we? 10?
I am sure Liegh Alexander is a very nice person in real life. Im sure shes a good person and im sure shes a good journalist that knows what shes doing.
But I also think she can learn to not cut people off, not be really abrasive, not talk over people, to wait her turn in a conversation, and to try and keep the discussion on some kind of track.
If she can do that, then Im sure we can welcome her back with open arms. It seems like the crew likes her, and maybe we can learn to like her also.
(Note: that was edited from my original post in the comments so it makes sense for this topic)
Im willing to give her a third chance. So come E3 2011, if she is on again, I think we should maybe give her ONE last chance and see if she can do the things I suggested. If she cant, then maybe its best shes not on that often.
And honestly, this kinda hate shit I expect from Neogaf, not GB.
anyway, i said my peace.
Good job creating another thread about the topic. Pretty stupid thing to do if you want the threads to stop.
I think the bashing is one thing, but the sex-based bashing just shows immaturity. She responded in kind with feminist stuff, but it's hard to blame someone who's drunk and being hit by sex-based insults constantly for considering the attacks representative.
To those who are attacking her personally: get some fuckin perspective.
Well, she was just really abrasive and interrupted alot. She also got things off track to the point where Ryan had to point it out. I doubt she meant any harm in it.
Also, lol, I dont have a crush on her, I jsut hate when people act like jackass's.
Agreed. This is mainly based on those kind of remarks. If you want to comment on her edicet on the show, then fine, you dont need to make a thread on it. But when you start crossing teh line with your remarks, then it becomes a issue I think.
" @Atomasist said:If this doesn't bring people together, then fuck it, I don't know what will." Can't we all get along! "
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" I think the bashing is one thing, but the sex-based bashing just shows immaturity. She responded in kind with feminist stuff, but it's hard to blame someone who's drunk and being hit by sex-based insults constantly for considering the attacks representative. To those who are attacking her personally: get some fuckin perspective. "
" I think the bashing is one thing, but the sex-based bashing just shows immaturity. She responded in kind with feminist stuff, but it's hard to blame someone who's drunk and being hit by sex-based insults constantly for considering the attacks representative. To those who are attacking her personally: get some fuckin perspective. "
Real quick, what exactly does it mean when someone tells you to get some perspective? Ive heard it many times before in different things, but never understood its real meaning.
" @Bogitt: Well, she was just really abrasive and interrupted alot. She also got things off track to the point where Ryan had to point it out. I doubt she meant any harm in it. Also, lol, I dont have a crush on her, I jsut hate when people act like jackass's. "I doubt anyone who is a jackass in the manner she was means to be a jackass, she just can't help but be a jackass by nature. If it had just happened last year and that was that, I would've written it off as a bad day at a busy E3. 2 years in a row being a rude jackass? I think that's her true nature coming out.
Honestly, this whole thing was fun for a while, but it kinda needs to start calming down now.
I'm gonna probably be mocked for this, but I hope she doesn't do anything too rash.
Drunk woman + thousands of people making fun of her on the internet + possibly her being alone in front of PC during all this = Hopefully just tears, and nothing permanent.
I'm really not trying to white knight.
" sigh, so this didnt get to any of you? And here I thought I was trying to enstill some maturity. "Um what? Did you really post this thinking people would read it and say "By Joe he's right! I have been an asshole! I apologize to this drunken lunatic who ruined my bombcast! Thank you Raven_Sword, you have saved me!
Because if so that was a mistake. "Haters gonna hate". And, according to this fine young lady, they should continue hating to make her famous. So isn't this really a good thing?
...... your a angry little man arent you? You really think I think that highly of myself? please, get over yourself. All I was trying to do was have people deviate from this madness. Its called not being a freakin child and insulting the woman personaly. Its not that I think im this high and mighty shame on you savior, im just trying to have some good sense.
" sigh, so this didnt get to any of you? And here I thought I was trying to enstill some maturity. "Attempting to instill maturity on the internets was your first mistake. Creating another pointless thread about this was your second. Your third mistake was your spelling. Your fourth mistake will be your response to this message. ;P
Don't tell us to stop, who the fuck are you? If we see something or watch something on GB, we can comment exactly how we want.
First, my spelling has nothing to do with what I was trying to do with this thread (which really was to just try to reach out to the community to be a little mature) so commenting on it is rather pointless. and Secondly, I really think you missunderstood why I even made this thread. Its not pointless, its to ask people to please stop acting like they are right now because I know that we should be above doing that . and in any case, its certainly not as pointless as the bashing threads going around here, and thats assuming that I think thought this thread was pointless. So really, what is you problem with this thread? That im trying to tell people their acitng like jackass's? Dont you have something better to flame then a thread asking people to act a little mature?
" @Atomasist said:" Can't we all get along! "
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Nothing is more authentic than that.
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I think your thinking of a unrealistic thing though. For Example, Apparently everyone in this thread thinks im a Self Righteous jack ass, and you dont see me thinking of doing drastic things to myself. Of course, im not drunk nor a women, but I do have self esteem issues and Moderate Depression.
" Honestly, this whole thing was fun for a while, but it kinda needs to start calming down now. I'm gonna probably be mocked for this, but I hope she doesn't do anything too rash. Drunk woman + thousands of people making fun of her on the internet + possibly her being alone in front of PC during all this = Hopefully just tears, and nothing permanent. I'm really not trying to white knight. "ironically, its sexist of you to suggest this.
Woah woah woah Raven_sword. That Fuck you thing was unneccessary. I wasn't rude to you or anything, just making a point. I thought it was nice how you were trying to make a point, but it's just a moot point. It's not going to solve anything. The forum is dripping with the blood of leigh alexander or whatever. one guy saying "hey guys seriously stop" isn't going to make the guys stop. seriously. i was just informing you of that.
You see, Look Giantbomb is a bus, yes you can complain about it but you have no right to dictate where the bus goes. The bus has a route, you go out of your way to catch the bus and if you don't like that fact you get over it. "
I will always love that line. Thanks giantbomb! High road= me?
Well, I guess I can see where there coming from. If were talking about comments in my thread about the actual topic, then I can see how my thread could come across as "Shame on you" and whatnot, but it wasnt intended taht way. It just made me real mad to see all these personal remarks against the women. i didnt have a problem so much with the legit criticisms like how she interrupted people and all that.
Anyway, I still would like to think were more mature then teh average game forum. I hope im right atleast.
And to that I say" Woah woah woah Raven_sword. That Fuck you thing was unneccessary. I wasn't rude to you or anything, just making a point. I thought it was nice how you were trying to make a point, but it's just a moot point. It's not going to solve anything. The forum is dripping with the blood of leigh alexander or whatever. one guy saying "hey guys seriously stop" isn't going to make the guys stop. seriously. i was just informing you of that. You see, Look Giantbomb is a bus, yes you can complain about it but you have no right to dictate where the bus goes. The bus has a route, you go out of your way to catch the bus and if you don't like that fact you get over it. " I will always love that line. Thanks giantbomb! High road= me? "
@davidwitten22
said:lol, It works both ways."I'm sorry dude but I just love that line. I thought it was great. A REAL counterpoint would be "well yeah sure, but if there was a bum masturbating on the bus do you have no right to complain about a bum masturbating on the bus?" Also I didn't watch the podcast so I don't mean this as a shot at whatsherface. "
*Meme Alert*
@Raven_Sword said:
" @gike987: Well, I guess I can see where there coming from. If were talking about comments in my thread about the actual topic, then I can see how my thread could come across as "Shame on you" and whatnot, but it wasnt intended taht way. It just made me real mad to see all these personal remarks against the women. i didnt have a problem so much with the legit criticisms like how she interrupted people and all that. Anyway, I still would like to think were more mature then teh average game forum. I hope im right atleast. "Should I link the thread where everyone was in support of incestuous granny sex?
" @davidwitten22 said:This is the best thing that's ever happened to me at giantbomb. This one thing made this entire night worthwhile. Coombs, you will be my favorite member on this site for a long, long time.And to that I say" Woah woah woah Raven_sword. That Fuck you thing was unneccessary. I wasn't rude to you or anything, just making a point. I thought it was nice how you were trying to make a point, but it's just a moot point. It's not going to solve anything. The forum is dripping with the blood of leigh alexander or whatever. one guy saying "hey guys seriously stop" isn't going to make the guys stop. seriously. i was just informing you of that. You see, Look Giantbomb is a bus, yes you can complain about it but you have no right to dictate where the bus goes. The bus has a route, you go out of your way to catch the bus and if you don't like that fact you get over it. " I will always love that line. Thanks giantbomb! High road= me? "
@davidwitten22 said:""I'm sorry dude but I just love that line. I thought it was great. A REAL counterpoint would be "well yeah sure, but if there was a bum masturbating on the bus do you have no right to complain about a bum masturbating on the bus?" Also I didn't watch the podcast so I don't mean this as a shot at whatsherface. "
Also, if I had to find a way to counterpoint that BADASS counterpoint, I'd say... "You can complain about the bum masturbating on the bus, but would you still want to ride that bus if the next day that bum was on the bus masturbating even harder?"
lol, my bad then. I misinterprete forum stuff sometimes (also, its after 1am where im at, so im a little irretable.) But still, I would really like to think that you didnt think I was trying to be like self righteous or something. and know that my intentions for this article were sincere. But I dont agree that I should just sit around and not say anything if I think something is wrong with what the community is doing just because my view isnt the popular view at the time.
" @davidwitten22: lol, my bad then. I misinterprete forum stuff sometimes (also, its after 1am where im at, so im a little irretable.) But still, I would really like to think that you didnt think I was trying to be like self righteous or something. and know that my intentions for this article were sincere. But I dont agree that I should just sit around and not say anything if I think something is wrong with what the community is doing just because my view isnt the popular view at the time. "I understand. You're worried about the bus and the direction it's headed. But the bus always finds it's way back to where you really want it to be. The bus knows what it's doing, and the bus driver is a great man wise beyond his years.
Oh dead god I can't stop this bus thing.
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