@DeF said:
@The_Nubster said:
Look at the only forum post there. It's from two-and-a-half years ago, and it mentions the Crysis sharks, as well as the turrets from Snowbound in Halo 3. Yes, it's a barrier. The page even says that barriers manifest in many ways, "physical or otherwise," emphasis added. It doesn't need a new concept, but the concept page of Barrier does need to be expanded to include these elements.
I disagree. The "something kills you" kind is something worthy of its own concept. It's not a barrier you run against, it straight up takes you and kills you, sometimes even with unique animations, etc. The page describes things that block you off from progressing while the proposed concept describes things that kill you if you venture too far off the path.
Question is now, does "deadly dark water" count as being one thing or the other?
bar·ri·er/ˈbarēər/
Noun: | - A fence or other obstacle that prevents movement or access.
- A circumstance or obstacle that prevents communication or that keeps people or things apart: "a language barrier".
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So let's look at definition number one, since that's more pertinent to the topic at hand.
It starts of with saying a fence, but then says "other obstacle." What's an obstacle?
ob·sta·cle/ˈäbstəkəl/
Noun: | A thing that blocks one's way or prevents or hinders progress. |
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So now we know that a barrier can be some form of obstacle (which, by definition, "blocks one's way"). Barrier and obstacle both include, in their definitions, the restrictiveness of each. Neither of the definitions state that the obstacle or barrier has to be an inanimate object. Barrier describes it as an obstacle, which, when deferred to, simply calls it a thing. A thing can be a number of objects, because it's a vague term; a thing is undefined, so nearly everything can fall under the term. So, a barrier is simply an obstacle, which can be a number of things, that block your progress or restrict your movement, whether that thing is an invisible wall or a vagina-mouthed monster that eats you when you wander too far away from the playable area.
Deadly dark water is an obstacle that prevents movement, so it's a barrier.
Barrier is perfectly acceptable. Like I said before, it just needs to be fleshed out to include more information on what a barrier can possibly be. Some barriers kill, and some don't. Some are alive, and some aren't. Some are in the way of your objective, and some stop you from running off into that wide-open plain which, god dammit, looks totally open.
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