#1 Posted by Bocam (3832 posts) -

I'm just wondering how non-premium members feel about the amount of live streams they get.

  • As TNT is dead
  • That Giantbomb/Gamespot show isn't coming back
  • Daily DOTA is now when Brad Feels Like it DOTA
#2 Posted by e30bmw (356 posts) -

Nope, never again for the rest of eternity...

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#3 Edited by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

Abandon all hope ye who don't subscribe here.

#4 Edited by IrrelevantJohn (1093 posts) -

Yeah I feel you guys about not getting any free streams. They should just let unprofessional Fridays be free since it's really hit or miss a lot of the time (mostly misses).

#5 Posted by JZ (2120 posts) -

God I want that wednesday show back

#6 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

I will be picking up a sub soon but i always welcome new content!

#7 Posted by insane_shadowblade85 (1535 posts) -

The Wednesday show was basically like Unprofessional Fridays, except it was, well, professional. It reminded me a lot of Gamespot's On The Spot that Jeff and Rich ran. They'd take a look at some of the new games, talk about them a bit and then move on to the next new one. I feel they should bring back Thursday Night Throwdown since they can focus on one game and play with the community (that's what everyone liked about it, right? Playing with the staff?)

Unprofessional Fridays have also been, like someone said in this thread, a hit or miss but mostly miss. Vinny's FMV corner thing was entertaining for a bit but it quickly got old for me. Drew would show some neat games every now and then but the games he's shown have also been more miss than hit. The best streams for subs so far are Load Your Last Souls and the Pathfinder stream. Everything else is pretty much up in the air in that nothing else that's scheduled is that fun to watch. Actually, Spookin' with Scoops is good, but everything else is pretty random in that they'll just happen a few days in advance.

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#9 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

To answer the question in the title, no idea. Wish I knew but I don't work there.
The good question however is, yeah, what do nonsubs think about the lack of free streams?
I know there's other free content (videos as well as written stuff and the podcast) but still.

#10 Posted by Vinny_Says (5721 posts) -

Maybe? I've got ideas as to what they could do (simple easy to set up and upload) but I ain't in charge.

Man, this thread sort of bums me out. It made me realize giantbomb is like 3 things for me now: bombcast, quicklooks and forums. My reasons for visiting the website are getting smaller by the day.

  • Bombcast is still awesome and always on point. No complaints there.
  • The video player on giantbomb is completely useless. It simply does not work. All other video services online (firefox btw) work just fine. It's good most QLs are on youtube but man, why even come to giantbomb if I can just subscribe on youtube?
  • Notifications and messages are broken too. This makes coming to the forums pretty lame too.

So yeah, all that along with no BLLSL, premium stuff that doesn't interest me and no talk about their plans for the release of new consoles just makes me question what the future of GB really is.

Feel free to tell me, but I won't get your response because....well the notifications aren't working....

#11 Posted by mlarrabee (3064 posts) -

@vinny_says: Double check the notification settings on your settings page. I've had notifications working consistently for about three weeks now.

#12 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

@vinny_says: What sort of plans for the release of the new consoles do you wanna hear about though? "Guys, don't worry, we will still be doing Quick Looks when the new consoles come out. And yes, obviously shenanigans during the launch of these platforms" or something like that?
Or do you mean like, if they have specific features planned out for them like "Which falls faster from a tall building, PS4 or Xbox One" ?

That last one would be fun actually.

#13 Posted by TyCobb (1975 posts) -

Nope. I am loving this. Us premium subscribers went a long time without any decent premium content. Now, we are finally getting a ton of it. Let us have our fun!

#14 Posted by super2j (1798 posts) -

To answer the question in the title, no idea. Wish I knew but I don't work there.

The good question however is, yeah, what do nonsubs think about the lack of free streams?

I know there's other free content (videos as well as written stuff and the podcast) but still.

Honestly, aside from the podcast, GB now for the most part is all business. The spark that is the original site is in the subscriber content. It was all to clear when my silver membership occasionally ran out (as in dirt poorness). The friday show, spookin with scoops, the breaking brads and Vinny old school games. Wow, I just realized they each have a type of game they always play, Jeff is the only one who doesn't (aside from Jars, which is not actively playing games). But, I will not hold this against Jeff, since he does enough stuff randomly.

#15 Edited by Dallas_Raines (2221 posts) -

CBSi is probably aware of what is and isn't making them money.(Subscriptions are what interested them in the first place, right?) I'm guessing if they could get sponsorship for live streams, then they would do more free videos.

#16 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -

@super2j said:

@zeforgotten said:

To answer the question in the title, no idea. Wish I knew but I don't work there.

The good question however is, yeah, what do nonsubs think about the lack of free streams?

I know there's other free content (videos as well as written stuff and the podcast) but still.

Honestly, aside from the podcast, GB now for the most part is all business. The spark that is the original site is in the subscriber content. It was all to clear when my silver membership occasionally ran out (as in dirt poorness). The friday show, spookin with scoops, the breaking brads and Vinny old school games. Wow, I just realized they each have a type of game they always play, Jeff is the only one who doesn't (aside from Jars, which is not actively playing games). But, I will not hold this against Jeff, since he does enough stuff randomly.

I guess I could see that, and yeah, I might not be missing the spark as much because I always have all that Subscriber content to look at as well and never really think about it as much.
I hope something at least comes up for free members though. Wouldn't want it ending up like a terrible mobile game or something.
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#17 Edited by MooseyMcMan (11412 posts) -

I kinda doubt it. I mean, I don't think that TNT is returning, at least not as a weekly thing. Any time they do some stream that's free, it's a one time deal, like that GTA Online and Windjammers thing (that was free, right?). And aside from the Bombastica thing (which, really, is just the return of the Quick Look Throwback under a new name), I'm pretty sure that all the new features (not counting the now defunct Wednesday show) they've created since the implementation of the premium thing have been subscriber only, and that's what they're going to keep doing.

I think.

#18 Posted by Dallas_Raines (2221 posts) -
#19 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11412 posts) -

@dallas_raines: Ah, right! I forget, given that I only ever watch the archives of that, and I am premium.

#20 Posted by PandaBear (1384 posts) -

I miss Mondays.

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#23 Posted by Subjugation (4741 posts) -

So if the BLLSL isn't happening, does that mean the membership sale that usually happens during it won't happen as well? That's usually when I would resubscribe. And yeah, in the month or so I've been non-premium it has finally dawned on me that pretty much every stream/video feature is premium. Feelin' kinda left out in the dark, but hey, I guess that's the point.

#24 Posted by RonGalaxy (3270 posts) -

Isn't bombin in the am free?

#25 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4610 posts) -

I mean, a lot of people were complaining for a while about how the premium members weren't getting anything, so we can't exactly complain about them getting stuff now. And the staff are sort of constantly rejiggering what they put out anyway, so I'm happy to just see what they come up with, so long as quick looks and podcasts remain. Like, Guns of Navarro is gone, but now we have the Morning Dump show (yes that's what I still call it) so it all works out.

(Also, while livestreams are fun, they are also a dangerous time-sink and it's probably healthier for me to not spend all week watching them).

#26 Posted by Breadfan (6590 posts) -

@tycobb said:

Nope. I am loving this. Us premium subscribers went a long time without any decent premium content. Now, we are finally getting a ton of it. Let us have our fun!

Totally. I don't regret becoming a subscriber, but I haven't actually felt like I was getting my money's worth until fairly recently.

#27 Posted by tsutohiro (364 posts) -

I miss Mondays and mailbags the most. :(

#28 Posted by Zaccheus (1806 posts) -

Souls, Unplugged, Unprofessional and Spooking now going on it almost feels like content overload right now. I'm very happy.

#29 Edited by tsutohiro (364 posts) -

@zaccheus said:

Souls, Unplugged, Unprofessional and Spooking now going on it almost feels like content overload right now. I'm very happy.

Those are all premium shows though.

#30 Posted by Milkman (17337 posts) -
#31 Edited by geirr (2715 posts) -

They usually have weekly Quick Looks, that helps right? :P

As for Bombin' the AM; it's neat that at least Patrick & Alex are doing something but at this point I feel I see Patrick's face more than any other on this site. And while I've never been unsubscribed I can only imagine the two people you get to know from videos would mainly be those two, which is weird to me since they've basically become 'the outsiders' yet to people who don't subscribe Patrick might seem like the only active person with a face attached. At least it's a pretty face!

It might be nice if Giantbomb made older premium shows free; maybe make the live broadcast premium and then have the archived version available to everyone. And if not instantly, maybe have it viewable by all after a week? Then again I vaguely remember it being mentioned that this was impossible for some monetary reason.

Anyway, what was the question.. uh.. Oh yeah, I don't know if there will be another free weekly show, but I certainly hope so. I won't ever stop my subscription but in the interest of keeping peoples' interest or bringing more people to the site, more weekly routine shows might help.

#32 Posted by atomic_dumpling (2483 posts) -

I don't mind. At this point, all I care about is the Bombcast and the occasional Quicklook.

#33 Posted by Ramone (2976 posts) -

Patrick does a lot of interviews. You should check those out.

#34 Posted by ch3burashka (5260 posts) -

Suck it up, look under the couch, pay them their 50 bucks. I would too, I just don't have time to consume so much content.

#35 Posted by rjayb89 (7729 posts) -

Doubt it.

₲฿ is all about dat paper.

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#36 Posted by kindone (2843 posts) -

I don't really see the point, unless they see a drop in viewership because of the lack there of. Other than that, they are a business, and businesses want to make money. To satisfy people with free-content only leads to the cluster-f*** nature of "f2p" games where only 3% of the consuming party throw money at it.

#37 Posted by erhard (442 posts) -

I get the feeling that the people who are suggesting Patrick interviews as a substitute for the crew playing games on the couch don't really "get" what makes this site special.

I don't really mind on the whole. Quick Looks keep me satisfied.

#38 Posted by Excast (1041 posts) -

I am happy that the subscribers are finally getting weekly content, though to me it feels as if they may have gone too far in the other direction. It's isn't super inviting when you look at the "Coming Soon" section and like 75% of it is routinely things I can't watch.

#39 Posted by Scrawnto (2467 posts) -

@geirr said:

It might be nice if Giantbomb made older premium shows free; maybe make the live broadcast premium and then have the archived version available to everyone. And if not instantly, maybe have it viewable by all after a week? Then again I vaguely remember it being mentioned that this was impossible for some monetary reason.

The bandwidth on that much archived video would be pretty rough on them. I think Roosterteeth (the makers of Red vs Blue) does almost the opposite. Their members get access to the whole archive, but nonpaying folks only get access to a rolling set of videos that changes at some interval, as well as the most recent season a few days after the supporters. Something like that might work here.

#40 Edited by Sackmanjones (4762 posts) -

I do miss the dota. But then again, load your last souls is simply the best thing ever soooo...You win some you lose some.

#41 Posted by development (2644 posts) -

@scrawnto said:

@geirr said:

It might be nice if Giantbomb made older premium shows free; maybe make the live broadcast premium and then have the archived version available to everyone. And if not instantly, maybe have it viewable by all after a week? Then again I vaguely remember it being mentioned that this was impossible for some monetary reason.

The bandwidth on that much archived video would be pretty rough on them. I think Roosterteeth (the makers of Red vs Blue) does almost the opposite. Their members get access to the whole archive, but nonpaying folks only get access to a rolling set of videos that changes at some interval, as well as the most recent season a few days after the supporters. Something like that might work here.

I actually really like the sound of that. There's enough of a backlog now that it could totally work.

#42 Posted by Abendlaender (2889 posts) -

That's not what Vinny would say! You are an impostor!

They should just make UPF free once every month or so. I don't care though, I'm a rich subscriber.

#43 Edited by BaconGames (3577 posts) -

Correct me if I'm wrong but I want to say Worth Playing is also free. I think the question is valid in the sense that it's addressing that something was there for free that is not anymore as opposed to simply adding subscriber features on top of what was already being done. I hate to say it but I also think one less staff member is making it harder to offload things; also Ryan's passing did have an appreciable affect on the direction of the site in terms of exploring stuff more loosely and personal to them.

Although I guess it does say something that I find it surprising not to see that emblem underneath the avatar.

#44 Posted by SomberOwl (731 posts) -

Bombin' the A.M. in my opinion is one of the best features on the site. Two a week and free.

#45 Posted by Rorie (2987 posts) -

I don't think we have any immediate plans for a recurring weekly free stream, but I have a feeling that there'll be a few longer-form streams around when the consoles are coming out. Maybe if we get some more people on board we can look into doing something, though.

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#46 Posted by Excast (1041 posts) -

@somberowl:

Definitely and it's nice that we little guys have that at least. But yeah, it does seem like the trend has been towards less free content and a lot more premium content. As a fan who used to enjoy the fairly regular streams it is sort of a bummer that the main office is basically subscriber only now.