So we know which GTA 4 ending is canon now

[Tiny, minor spoilers]

On the Paleto heist, if you have unlocked Packie and decide to use him, he gets in a lot of dialogue while en route to the bank. He tells the gang about how his sister is dead and he has no clue where Niko is or if he's even still alive. So I guess we know which GTA 4 ending Rockstar considers canon. Poor Niko. Playing GTA 4, I had the ending where Michelle (that was her name, right?) got killed, but I went back and did it the other way just so they ended up alive and together. Kind of sad that it didn't end up a happy ending after all.

I want roman in the GTA V DLC. He should phone Mikey and ask him to go bowling with him.

I remember a reference to Niko and how he'd gone quiet. Could mean he got out rather than got dead.

Pretty sure it doesn't matter. That bit with Packie was really neat but it doesn't tell us anything about Niko.

I think the "gone quiet" line is a reference to the fact that the voice actor for Niko publicly complained about how little he was paid in respect to how much money GTA IV made. When Rockstar went on to make TLaD and TBoGT DLC, they refused to rehire the voice actor and just used clips from his voice recordings from the main game.

Hence, Niko is now "quiet."

But what happened to Travis from GTA1?

I said that to a friend, he thought it was a stretch. I think Rockstar's smart enough to write that in knowingly.

Weird. I never heard him talk about his sister - only about the L.C. bank heist.

Well I think it's the better ending considering I didn't romance her at all, and so that relationship never developed in my game, meanwhile no matter what you have to look after and help out Roman.

Same here. He just says he was in it with some European dude, and now he doesn't know where he is. Never heard anything about his sister.

@daiphyer: Weird. I wonder (but doubt) if GTA5 looks at your GTA4 saves? Because Packie's sister is definitely alive by the end of my GTA4 game.

I don't think so, I don't have the saves from GTA4 on my console.

Assume that Nico going quiet is a sly wink if you like, not like we'll ever know. Personally, I'm in the 'bit of a stretch' camp.

Huh, I don't remember any mention of Kate. I do however remember Packie referencing the death of Derrick rather than Francis, so that decision at least has been set in stone.

@eodtech: I wonder, did you die on that mission ever? And did you have to re-play the part where this conversation takes place? Because GTA 4 and 5 both switch up the dialogue when you have to repeat a scene like that - I wonder if that's why some of us haven't seen this dialogue while others have.

His relationship with Kate is much, much more subdued than his other potential dates. She is the most down-to-Earth woman in the whole game, minus Mikhail's wife. Which makes her death in the end all the more sad. She was an honest woman who was not a criminal or a psycho, yet she ended up dying anyway, if you did the right thing.

That ending made way more sense. But the fact that they even actual that as the real ending only furthers to cement the fact that player choices in largely linear games is a really, reeeeeeeeeeeally stupid fucking idea. Maybe if they realize that, they can make a GTA game as well as they used to.

I didn't even know Packie was in GTA V.

Michelle was the first girlfriend, (the undercover agent from The Agency). Packie's sister is Kate.

geez when they kill off a voice actor they really go the whole hog

it's probably alternate dialog if you die once or a rare occurance or something

Nah, that doesn't happen in GTA V like it did in IV. The dialogue is always the same.

You know, I didn't even realise Michelle made an appearance in GTA V (in Three's Company) until I looked her up on the wiki. She even sports that hair clip and somewhat similar hairstyle, but other than that she looks completely different.