Album 'Hidden Tracks'

Does anyone else find these really annoying? 
 
It just means if you happen to like the actual song it's hidden in or just the hidden track, you have to open up Audacity and cut it up. 
 
If you're making an album and really want to add an extra song, just add the damn song.

A winrar archive doesn't have hidden tracks.

theres a song I really want to put on my phone but its like 18 minutes long because for some reason there HAS to be that long silence. it's pretty annoying yeah.

They can be pretentious, but sometimes they can elevate an album to something more than just "an album". 
 
I remember the first time I heard a hidden track, it was after a long silence while I was waiting in a car on a dark, stormy blizzard night. 
 
It was silence for a while, I just stopped paying attention to the music. A while later, I heard.. whispers. and then just-out-of-hearing-range speeches. I had no idea what was going on, and then surreal music started, and eventually a song played, and it became one of my favourite songs. 
 
As annoying as it can sometimes be (thanks for ripping Tool - Undertow's 59 silent tracks, WMP), I think the one time it got me when I was a kid made it worth it.

it was pretty cool listening to London Calling when Train in Vain comes on unexpectedly.

Yep. It's the worst part about CDs.

" @Pinworm45:  Which track was that? "

Not a fan of hidden tracks but "Something in the Way" by Nirvana was an amazing song that happened to have a hidden track on it. I probably should download audacity and cut the extra 20 min off of it...

" @armaan8014 said:

" @Pinworm45:  Which track was that? "

  

 

   Totally emo at this point, and I'll get some flak for it, but at the time I was a kid, emo wasn't a thing, and I thought this was totally badass as hell. "

yeah, they are annoying to hear them. i hate the long silence in songs.

I think its pretty awesome when bands do the whole hidden track thing, its like a reward for listening to the entire album. Or just the last song.

Bitches Ain't Shit comes to mind, also that one on Miseducation of Lauren Hill is pretty memorable for a hidden track.

Blur has a really different approach to it's hidden track on it's Think Tank album. You need to put the CD in a CD player, go to the first song, then rewind the track and you'll find it. It's called "Me, White Noise". It's weird because I posted this song in another thread a few hours ago :P It's actually my favorite song on the whole album, and that is one damn good album

When I was young I listened to this one They Might Be Giants album over and over again. I would just have it on. It took me ages to realize that these absurd songs about the planet of the apes were preceded by several minutes of silence. They have another one where you actually have to reverse the CD from track one in order to find it.
 
Its annoying as hell, but a band that geeky can get away with it.

I like hidden tracks... well rather, I LIKED them back before all media players showed the track length. They used to be nice surprises when you forgot to change the CD or flip the cassette. Now they're annoyances since, like the OP mentioned, you have to chop them up to remove the silence. I wish devices used silence recognition and cut out the long blanknesses automatically.
 
edit: Backmasking is the best way to implement hidden music.
 
edit2: then there are the hidden tracks that are super quiet and you have to have been listening to the last song pretty loud to realize there was anything coming up after it. Disgustipated from Tool for example.

The only hidden tracks I actually like that I can think of are at the end of Biffy Clyro's Vertigo of Bliss and Infinity Land, and Laura Marling's Alas I Cannot Swim. Other than that, all the ones I've heard aren't really that memorable.

Undertow by Tool has a creepyyyy hidden track at track 94.

" it was pretty cool listening to London Calling when Train in Vain comes on unexpectedly. "

I don't like it because like most BONUS tracks, they always suck.

AFI are amazing. My favourite band.

Any of tools hidden tracks are fucked, but in a good way. My favorite remains to be Lateralis when that dude just starts kinda talking all paraniod about aliens and the government or some shit. The first time i heard that I had Headphones on and I kinda fell asleep. Well it came on and it woke me up and freaked me out. 
 
but I agree hidden tracks that are songs shouldn't exist. In the case of Korn ( follow the leader) where you have to wait 23 fucking tracks before it comes on and even on the damn album its labeled as such, or in the case of issues where its god damn static for like 10 minutes with nothing inbetween.  
 
Since this is kind of on topic. I hate when you rip an album onto your music player of choice... and the god damn thing is half tracked. What I mean by that is half a song is on one track then it carries over onto another track but if you skip it it skips half the song. ( queens of the stoneage and fly leaf......I'm looking at you)

" Blur has a really different approach to it's hidden track on it's Think Tank album. You need to put the CD in a CD player, go to the first song, then rewind the track and you'll find it. "

Bloc Party did that with Silent Alarm too, I quite like that because it's unique to the physical versions most of the time.

" @Pinworm45: As for Korn, I know that my copies of Korn, Untitled, Untouchables, and Issues don't have any beginning silence in them."

@Bruce

" I don't like it because like most BONUS tracks, they always suck. "

" @Pinworm45 said:

" @armaan8014 said:

" @Pinworm45:  Which track was that? "

  

 

   Totally emo at this point, and I'll get some flak for it, but at the time I was a kid, emo wasn't a thing, and I thought this was totally badass as hell. "

AFI are amazing. My favourite band. "

The pregap ones (the tracks that are before the CD actually starts) are neat sometimes. I remember there was one on AFI's decemberunderground.

I think hidden tracks only really worked when cassettes and records were the only real methods of listening to music. With CD's and MP3's, they don't have the same impact seeing as you know they are coming based on the 18 minute track listing when the band only plays 4-5 minute songs.  There's no real impact to it.

" They can be pretentious, but sometimes they can elevate an album to something more than just "an album".  I remember the first time I heard a hidden track, it was after a long silence while I was waiting in a car on a dark, stormy blizzard night.  It was silence for a while, I just stopped paying attention to the music. A while later, I heard.. whispers. and then just-out-of-hearing-range speeches. I had no idea what was going on, and then surreal music started, and eventually a song played, and it became one of my favourite songs.  As annoying as it can sometimes be (thanks for ripping Tool - Undertow's 59 silent tracks, WMP), I think the one time it got me when I was a kid made it worth it. "

it seemed like this shit was all the rage in the nineties. really, it's just a complete pain in the ass, and totally obnoxious. if you're going to put the son on the album, put it somewhere i can find it. if you don't consider it worthy of its own track, cut it.

I only know of one hidden track from all the albums I have. It is 26 minutes long, and something like 24 of those minutes are complete silence. The song is called 'Pendulous Skin', by Mastodon. I have never managed to listen to the entire track due to its sheer length and the majority of it being silent. However, if I download Audacity I'll probably cut that additional time off. I don't think I've heard more than a few seconds of the actual song, if any of it. Seeing as I only know of the one hidden track I don't really mind them, but they could be annoying if you were to have a lot of albums with them.

" @NeoKef said:

" @Pinworm45: As for Korn, I know that my copies of Korn, Untitled, Untouchables, and Issues don't have any beginning silence in them."

It was Follow The Leader with the silent tracks at the beginning. Very irritating. "

" I only know of one hidden track from all the albums I have. It is 26 minutes long, and something like 24 of those minutes are complete silence. The song is called 'Pendulous Skin', by Mastodon. I have never managed to listen to the entire track due to its sheer length and the majority of it being silent. However, if I download Audacity I'll probably cut that additional time off. I don't think I've heard more than a few seconds of the actual song, if any of it. Seeing as I only know of the one hidden track I don't really mind them, but they could be annoying if you were to have a lot of albums with them. "