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#151 Posted by Bleeble (95 posts) -

@PrivateIronTFU said:

I think being a total fucking pussy is a growing problem in America.

I agree.

#152 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

I don't know what would be worse, being a real short guy or being a really tall (6'5+) woman.

#153 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3971 posts) -

@Orange said:

@Mesoian said:

No. Though I am tired of people walking up to me and asking me if I play basketball because I'm tall.

THIS,

Eh as a 6'5" guy is that really a problem?

My only issue is talking to girls and they always open with "oh wow you're tall!" or whatever and even now being 23 I have no real smooth transition or answer.. just let it slide and try to scramble for something else before it gets awkward.

No complaints though. Being asked if I play basketball isn't a big deal and hey I do anyways...

#154 Posted by Mirado (1050 posts) -

As a tall man, I've dated a few women who've expressed their distaste for dating men shorter then they are, and I've found they all seem to immensely enjoy being picked up and carried about from time to time (perhaps I've just dated really lazy women?).

I think this is balanced out by the increased amount of concussions us tall people suffer, to the point that I've learned to force myself into a bit of a crouch every time I enter a new building.

Thank god for cathedral ceilings!

#155 Posted by afterdinner (1 posts) -

When I was growing up I never thought I was short or in any way inferior. I had my first fight at six years or less 'attacked' by two bigger guys. I didn't know what I was doing, of course, but I just hit them one hand to each of their faces with vertical fists a whole bunch of times. They ran across the street crying to women and pointed (maybe one of the guys was their mom)... I'll never forget those three faces. The woman: what? that guy beat you both up? the boys: well, this changes my attitude! me: I never thought taller guys were in any way superior ... still in elementary school the school bully 'Even Steven' twice tried to fight me in one day... the first he tried to trip me, and I tripped him; later wrestled him to the ground and said, Had enuff? So I was a nice kid even then, and gave guys chances to give up. My point here : if you are 6' 3" and you go to a country where the guys are 6; 8" average, do you feel small? Of course not, not if all your life you felt OK with your height. So its the same way anywhere. Why let the 'society' impose their parameters on you? There are plenty of 'short' (to me, that's a non-word) guys even in this century who have been the toughest guys around. Some examples: Gurkas, whom the Taliban fears most of all, are in the 5;6" range, the SEALs and others are just pussycats in comparison. In my childhood, I remember a lot of my dad's friends were in the Gurka range (and gentle and tough), and there would be some real tall guys, and they didn't look anything special to me. The only second time I saw my laid back dad get mad at someone was some 6'3" guy and he was about to flatten him, everyone knew and said, "Hey, take it easy, uncle"... I was of course blessed to have a great childhood and was doubly blessed to know how to 'fight' but not be a bully; and in fact to stand up for people being bullied. Heightism is just like racism, its a learned prejudice. My best bud, bless his memory (he died a few years ago) was a six footer; his widow told me, He wanted to be like you. As for some women who prefer tall guys, so what? There's plenty of hot women who have had positive childhoods like mine, and they prefer non tall guys. Look at some smaller cool guys: Steve McQueen, Bruce Lee, Humphrey Bogart.... if they were taller guys they wouldn't be so cool, (of course that is heightism in reverse). I saw a photo with Jackie Stewart and Sean Connery. Well, who looks really cool in real life? Stewart of course, he really is an ace driver and expert shot, and I'm sure he had a childhood something like mine, with positive influences from outside and inside. So people, work on your hearts and minds. Have friends of all heights and ethnicities -- btw. if you're a Caucasian guy, for example, who likes Asian girls, do you have Asian guy buds? I'm Asian and my best bud above was a Caucasian. I grew up with guys who migrated from South Carolina (best friend in elementary), and 'united nations' of friends .... so to conclude, again: don't go with the crowd, there's people in the world who have wise hearts and minds; don't pay attention to the others.

#156 Posted by TheManWithNoPlan (5902 posts) -

I didn't realize discrimination for being tall or short was a significant problem anywhere.

#157 Edited by Kidavenger (3605 posts) -

I didn't realize discrimination for being tall or short was a significant problem anywhere.

I was a huge problem a few years ago, but we've advanced past that point as a society here in the future.

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#158 Edited by Atlas (2457 posts) -
@ohgawd said:

I had seen a 20/20 special on how height is a very important factor for men in modern society. They lined up guys of various heights, one being very tall, the others being average, and one man being 5'0 in height. Then from behind a screen they had women select a partner based on first impressions from the appearances of the men. Most girls chose the tallest one or the second tallest one (who was a bit better looking), but when asked about whether they would date the 5'0 tall guy, most all would laugh and say "No! He's too short!", even the ugly women who made surprisingly high demands given their appearance.

I stopped reading at this point because wow.

Also I'm 6"2 1/2 so I can't fairly comment on this, but I'm aware that heightism can be a problem in society. Here's an excerpt from an episode of QI from a few years ago:

"Tangent: Heightism does exist. Short people are paid less on average than tall people. It is comparable in magnitude to pay differences between race and gender. In a survey of Fortune 500 companies it was revealed that 90% of CEOs were above average height. 30% of those people are 6'2", which is the tallest 4% of the population. The public also tend to recognise short powerful people who have young, tall wives, such as Nicolas Sarkozy and Bernie Ecclestone."

Edit: Geez, totally didn't realise that this was an old thread that had been necro'd. Still, pretty rotten.

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#159 Edited by Fredchuckdave (6002 posts) -

Height is a pretty big deal for being attractive to women (even extremely intelligent women); I don't think it really matters for practical purposes. Enough short people are in positions of power to somewhat negate the bias/invert it in the other direction.

#160 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

I really can't stand that the mods allow thread necro's like this. What a stupid policy.

#161 Posted by Devil240Z (3405 posts) -

I have always been one of the tallest people I know. Thats it. no discrimination. It mostly suck that I cant drive most of the cool little sports cars.

#162 Edited by believer258 (12100 posts) -

...OK, yeah, I can see how a search for "heightism" would lead you to an old thread on GB.

Also I'm pretty much six feet exactly. Not freakishly tall, not unfortunately short.

#163 Posted by EuanDewar (5094 posts) -

heh, KaosAngel. now there's a blast from the past

#164 Edited by Scrawnto (2462 posts) -

I was way below average height for my age up until the last two years of high school. In middle school I even got teased for it by a kid with cerebral palsy, which was a little odd. I'm 5'9" now though, so half the time I feel tall and half the time I feel short.

As far as the Napoleon Complex thing goes, yes that is a result of social conditioning. Social conditioning is pretty much the source of complexes. No one is born with a complex as far as I know. A person who faces a lot of discrimination is probably going to have a chip on their shoulder because of it. A person who doesn't won't.

#165 Posted by Brodehouse (10106 posts) -

@themanwithnoplan said:

I didn't realize discrimination for being tall or short was a significant problem anywhere.

I was a huge problem a few years ago, but we've advanced past that point as a society here in the future.

The bad old days of 2012, when every polling booth had a "You Must Be This Tall To Vote" stanchion on it.

#166 Edited by Scrawnto (2462 posts) -

@kidavenger said:

@themanwithnoplan said:

I didn't realize discrimination for being tall or short was a significant problem anywhere.

I was a huge problem a few years ago, but we've advanced past that point as a society here in the future.

The bad old days of 2012, when every polling booth had a "You Must Be This Tall To Vote" stanchion on it.

You joke, but those stanchions kept me off a lot of rides when I was in late middle school-early high school.

#167 Edited by Devil240Z (3405 posts) -

Okay I want some answers.

As a tall person people constantly feel the need to ask me how tall I am. But I would never go up to a short person and ask them how short they are or ask a fat person how much they weigh. I find it very annoying and degrading that the first thing most people say to me is "wow how tall are you?"

#168 Posted by Hunter5024 (5902 posts) -

@brodehouse said:

I'm gonna get loaded up on heightstim and watch some uglysims tonight in the mirrorshades cyberfuture.

This is still funny two years later.

#169 Edited by Brodehouse (10106 posts) -

@hunter5024 said:

@brodehouse said:

I'm gonna get loaded up on heightstim and watch some uglysims tonight in the mirrorshades cyberfuture.

This is still funny two years later.

I never did watch those uglysims.

So it goes.

#170 Edited by CaLe (4039 posts) -

I'm not a real man because I'm not tall enough to be a real man. I can only ever dream of being an average man, because I'm of average height. Dagnabbit what in tarnation.

#171 Posted by Quarters (1813 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

No. Though I am tired of people walking up to me and asking me if I play basketball because I'm tall.

Yeah, fuck that.

Indeed. I got both basketball and football when I was growing up. Thankfully, that seems to have died down now that I'm older.

#172 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4867 posts) -

Oddly enough, I was always told I should be a wrestler.

#173 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3511 posts) -

I think 20/20 specials are doing more damage to society than height-based discrimination.

BOOM.

Headshot.

Why everything and everyone gotta be an "-ism" or "-ist?" Can't we just call people assholes and move on like we did in the old days?

BOOM AGAIN.

#174 Edited by indieslaw (377 posts) -

I'm 6'5". Height issues, to me, mostly means logistical problems. Like, with blue jeans. But then, it would.

Privilege.

#175 Posted by jgf (394 posts) -

As a non-american I must say that I do notice a certain fixation on height and beeing big on many occasions. E.g. when there is a thread about which controller is best, every second post contains a remark like "I have huge hands". In general many people seem to want to tell the world how tall they are. Even in this thread posts often start with the assertion that the poster is tall. I doubt this would happen with a different topic like money. E.g. when we discuss if poor people have problems, not many would start their argument with "Well I have 200000k in my bank account, but..."

Just to make sure - this is not ment to be offensive in any way. I have nothing against anybody posting their height - Its just an observation I made when reading through US based forums.

#176 Posted by MonkeyKing1969 (2964 posts) -

There is a study about how brains look at silhouettes and what sorts of judgement we make based on just a glimpse. Our brains, our little monkey brains, determine a lot with just one look. We size up potential mates, potential rivals, potential threats, and potential boons (good things) with just a look. The 20/20 experiment preys upon that fact, they used silhouette because it is proven people will make snap judgements based on silhouette. Our brains developed the silhouette technique because we can tell when people are healthy or sick based on how they move, what their silhouette is like, and other indicators, but also to gauge from far away if a mate or rival is approaching.

Ever think a person is attractive from far away, but then change you mind when they get up close? That's your brain doing that based on silhouette. Do you know why humans see people or animals when we see a cartoon of people or animals? Because your brains are made to make these very quick scans of things, that's why we can be aroused by cartoon...well, if you have a normal brain you can be aroused. If you truly cannot be aroused by a cartoon, you might have a level of autism that we do not diagnose today because it is meaningless. About 20,000 years ago such people were might have a greater likelihood to glimpse a lion, not diagnose "That's a threat" fast enough - and they would be dead. Or, would see a silhouette in the distance and not realize is was a adversary not a potential mate until it was too late.

There are studies they show that human brain prefer unrealistic cartoon proportions to true proportions of real people. They reason is the cartoonish silhouette is easier to read. Our brains are assured of our judgment from a 'cartoonish bosom and hips" or "cartoonish wide shoulders with a tight waist" thus we like it more.

#177 Posted by Toastburner_B (162 posts) -

The only true "heightism" exists on airplanes. At 6'9", there is a reason why I've only flown somewhere twice in the last five years.

#178 Posted by axlvandamme (102 posts) -

I'm 6'2" and that's still not tall enough. 6'4" would be great.

#179 Posted by EpicSteve (6495 posts) -

I think the biggest issue might be that most women want men taller than them.

#180 Posted by Vuud (2035 posts) -

I bet Batman has to deal with a lot of reverse heightism being 105 feet tall.

#181 Posted by ShadowSkill11 (1783 posts) -

Americans come in all shapes and sizes man. With the exception of people who choose to live in communities with people that look like them and purposely isolate themselves Americans are used to seeing everyone.

Being short isn't a taboo, it's just that if you are under 5'5" and male women don't take you seriously unless you develop a mean case of shortman syndrome.

...just shave that unibrow, don't smell like body Oder, and take care of your teeth and you'll do okay in America.

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#182 Posted by Tennmuerti (8172 posts) -

Why.

#183 Posted by RandomHero666 (3182 posts) -

Number 1 tall person problem..

Not being able to fit in a fucking bath tub.
I miss it so much.