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    Mass Effect 2

    Game » consists of 21 releases. Released Jan 26, 2010

    After a violent death by an unknown force and a timely reanimation by the human supremacist organization Cerberus, Commander Shepard must assemble a new squad in the seedier side of the galaxy for a suicide mission in the second installment of the "Mass Effect" trilogy.

    Harbinger *major spoilers*

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    #1  Edited By Noodlearms

    Perhaps I missed something, but what was the significance of Harbinger? I know that he was some sort of Collector leader and that he would take control of troops to make them more powerful, but that's about it. He seemed to be important, yet they didn't flesh him out at all. 
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    #2  Edited By TimeWaffle

    he's a reaper

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    #3  Edited By Noodlearms
    @DrDemon:
    I thought the Reapers were ships like Sovereign and the fleet at the end.
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    #4  Edited By jkz
    @Noodlearms said:
    " @DrDemon: I thought the Reapers were ships like Sovereign and the fleet at the end. "
    He is a ship; he was controlling the collector-leader (the bug you see crawling around with the glowing eyes. You see him release control of said leader and the light died out of the its eyes.
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    #5  Edited By TimeWaffle
    @Noodlearms:  i think he was controlling the collector
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    #6  Edited By Noodlearms
    @jukezypoo said:
    " @Noodlearms said:
    " @DrDemon: I thought the Reapers were ships like Sovereign and the fleet at the end. "
    He is a ship; he was controlling the collector-leader (the bug you see crawling around with the glowing eyes. You see him release control of said leader and the light died out of the its eyes. "
    Thanks, was really confused on why this seemingly important antagonist was in a total of like 3 scenes. Makes sense now.
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    #7  Edited By damswedon

    The Indoctrination process reduces the efficiency of whoever is indoctrinated, so the reapers are able to directly control some of the indoctrinated beings. 

    Speculation


    However it seems that when the link is forcefully broken by someone who isn't the reaper, the reaper becomes very weak. I'm sure that's why Sovereigns Kinetic barriers went down at the end of Mass Effect 1.
     
    Also a harbinger is a sign of things to come.
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    #8  Edited By Mr_Skeleton

    Actually I dont think so, the collectors were genetically modified by the Reapers and if im not mistaken you kill all of them in the end and there wasnt any other mention of other races being controled by the Reapers so I dont really think Harbinger is a sign or hint for anything in Mass Effect 3.

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    #9  Edited By Cheapoz

    Harbinger was controlling the Collector's like he controlled Saren, he's just more adept at swapping in and out of bodies. That's probably since the Reapers MADE the Collectors, probably as smaller, easier to hot-swap vessels.

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    #10  Edited By TheKidNixon
    @Mr_Skeleton I'm pretty sure that Shepard in his talk with the Illusive Man says that Harbinger is still out there. He was controlling the Collectors from afar; when the facility was destroyed, he released control of the Collectors, leaving them to die with a final second of freedom. But yes, Harbinger is definitely a reaper and will definitely show up in the next game. For more info...
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    #11  Edited By H4wkeye
    @Mr_Skeleton said:
    "

    Actually I dont think so, the collectors were genetically modified by the Reapers and if im not mistaken you kill all of them in the end and there wasnt any other mention of other races being controled by the Reapers so I dont really think Harbinger is a sign or hint for anything in Mass Effect 3.

    "
    What about the massive fleet of Reapers activating in dark space and coming towards us? :D
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    #12  Edited By withateethuh
    @H4wkeye said:
    " @Mr_Skeleton said:
    "

    Actually I dont think so, the collectors were genetically modified by the Reapers and if im not mistaken you kill all of them in the end and there wasnt any other mention of other races being controled by the Reapers so I dont really think Harbinger is a sign or hint for anything in Mass Effect 3.

    "
    What about the massive fleet of Reapers activating in dark space and coming towards us? :D "
    He was peeing while the cutscene was happening.
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    #13  Edited By Mr_Skeleton

    I might have. :p

    But I was talking Harbinger taking control over the collectors.

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    #14  Edited By gosukiller

    As mentioned by others, Harbinger is a Reaper like Sovereign. 
     
    Except, Sovereigns only example of "Total Control" was Sarens dead body (Remember how Saren was modified before the last battle?). 
     
    Harbinger had an entire race, the geneticly modified Proteans, the Collectors as we know them, to exact "total control" on.
     
    Both Reapers used indoctrination, but Harbinger obviously had an easier time since the Collectors have been made to be easily swayed by his powers.

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    #15  Edited By foggel
    WAIT. 
     
    The Reapers were created by the Collectors, by instructions from the Harbringer. This is how I understood it. And reapers made was made in the form of the organism the reaper was being fed. I don't think Harbringer is a Reaper, I think he is their leader. Or more correctly: Their creator. 
     
    Edit: My god, this forum's text editing tool is useless. I can't remove the bold...
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    #16  Edited By H4wkeye
    @foggel said:
    " WAIT. 
     
    The Reapers were created by the Collectors, by instructions from the Harbringer. This is how I understood it. And reapers made was made in the form of the organism the reaper was being fed. I don't think Harbringer is a Reaper, I think he is their leader. Or more correctly: Their creator. 
     
    Edit: My god, this forum's text editing tool is useless. I can't remove the bold...     "
    No, no, the Reapers are NOT created by the Collectors. Collectors are actually Protheans but Reapers modified them to suite their needs.
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    #17  Edited By Liminality
    @foggel said:

    " WAIT. 
     
    The Reapers were created by the Collectors, by instructions from the Harbringer. This is how I understood it. And reapers made was made in the form of the organism the reaper was being fed. I don't think Harbringer is a Reaper, I think he is their leader. Or more correctly: Their creator. 
     
    Edit: My god, this forum's text editing tool is useless. I can't remove the bold...     "

    The Collectors were only constructing the human Reaper. Harbinger is a Reaper just like the last one, that's their way to reproduce.
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