It seems like the reviews for Max Payne 3 are pretty mixed. A lot of the Bombcast doesn't seem to like it that much. It's fine that they don't like a game. The only problem I have is that I don't understand WHY they don't like it.

A lot of reviews seem to mention that control is an issue, but I've never seemed to have that problem. I've always seemed to be able to do what I want to do, and the game didn't seem to hard, even when I was diving out of cover and running around.

But then I played the game in front of one of my friends. I rolled into cover once I saw a few bad guys. His reaction: "You can ROLL?"

This concept was crazy to me! I roll so much in Max Payne 3! Rolling is as important as slo mo diving! I roll when I try to get from cover to cover. I roll when I'm out in the open! Rolling the way you move from point A to point B! I think the reason I knew I could roll was because I remembered it was important in Max Payne 1 so I looked up the button for it right away.

So I thought I'd ask the internet. Do you roll? Did you even know you COULD roll? Does rolling effect your ability to play the game/? My theory is that people who roll have a great time with the game and people who don't think the controls are trash. Do I have it right? What do you think Max Payne fans/ haters?

@KoolAid said:

My theory is that people who roll have a great time with the game and people who don't think the controls are trash. Do I have it right?

I rarely if ever rolled, and I love this game.

I only really roll if Im out of ammo or see incoming bullets in bullet time, there should be a "on occasion" vote.

I rolled and used shootdodge. Not something the bombcast guys mention doing much of. It helps!

I rolled a lot to move from cover to cover and to get into cover more quickly/safely when running towards it. Edit: Every now and then in combat as well.

shootdodge is the only way to go but I reluctantly used the cover system because the game pretty much demands that when playing on hard.

I knew i could roll, but never looked up the button for it, and still loved it.

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

@Pie said:

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

Because sometime you just want to get to cover, or not shoot some one, or not risk diving into a wall or something. I think a big part of the game is choosing when to roll and when to dive.

That being said, you should be trying to achieve as much slo mo as possible.

I rolled all the time and aside from the aesthetics and some of the music I disliked the game.

Also rolling isn't as helpful as it was in the past two games, you barely cover any distance in MP3.

@KoolAid said:

@Pie said:

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

Because sometime you just want to get to cover, or not shoot some one, or not risk diving into a wall or something. I think a big part of the game is choosing when to roll and when to dive.

That being said, you should be trying to achieve as much slo mo as possible.

Always be wall diving

@Pie said:

@KoolAid said:

@Pie said:

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

Because sometime you just want to get to cover, or not shoot some one, or not risk diving into a wall or something. I think a big part of the game is choosing when to roll and when to dive.

That being said, you should be trying to achieve as much slo mo as possible.

Always be wall diving

This man speaks the truth.

The one thing I miss from the old games is being able to run in a room with dual sawed-off double barrel shotguns, activating slow-mo, blast a motherfucker away, reload-dodge (I think that's the terminology people came up with... the extremely quick reloading in slow-mo) and just do that over and over until the room is clear. That was so fun.

Played through the whole game on Hard and never realized I could roll.

all the time

Since I played the game on easy with a controller I didn't 'need' to roll at all really, but it does help and I did do it a few times. Makes them aim above your head when you roll so it's obviously useful.

I'm curious, would anyone else like to see the ability to roll while prone, or am I the only one?

All the fucking time. Rolling was even more vital than shootdodging in the first Max Payne, so it was the first thing I did as soon as I got control. It's, sadly, one of those things the game doesn't mention to newcomers.

I believe the trouble with most is, they rely on cover too much, hence rendering Max and his precious head immobile and easy targets. Max should shootdodge, roll, run, take cover for a second or so to fill up bullet time, and repeat. Unfortunately the game itself doesn't direct players to this approach, and downright forces cover in some scenes. So I can't fault anyone for not trying, especially those unfamiliar with the series.

Yeah, rolling is essential. Especially satisfying to roll underneath a shotgun blast to appear with a gun in someone's face just as they're reloading.

No one wants to see the ability to roll while prone added?

I don't roll all the time, but I do partake in a bit of the old ball up and propel oneself heels over head.

(I've always wondered about the common version of that phrase . . . isn't your head normally over your heels?)

No one wants to see the ability to roll while prone added?

@antikorper said:

Wait, you can prone in Max Payne 3 too? Sheesh, I guess I didn't do anything else than running and shooting.

You go prone by holding vs tapping the crouch key, but then maybe you weren't aware there was crouch too.

If you're already crouched though, like at the start of the airport on the baggage conveyor, you can't go straight to prone. You have to stand first. I wish there was a separate prone key.

On the higher difficulty levels it helps a lot in some places to use crouch or prone.

@Pie said:

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

Why die when you don't have to?

For stuff like NYM it's required to save time going up stairs and such. So yeah, I roll.

I rolled, would practice it even. It did help.

@Napalm said:

@Pie said:

Why roll when you can fly in slo mo?

Why die when you don't have to?

Rather be dyin than rollin

Roll to position yourself for an ideal shootdodge, roll up stairs, roll down stairs, roll to close the gap to get an execute kill.. lots of rolling.

@ShaggE: same I took cover a lot. In the mp I roll to break soft lock

I liked the game, but I don't remember rolling.

@Frag_Maniac: MIND BLOWN. No clue you could go prone without shoot dodge