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Posted by Hassun

@graf1k: That's just it, I expected them to lean more heavily on the European market.

And you're right, maybe it doesn't work now but I could feasibly see them try in the future. Nevertheless, I doubt such things will be ready by the time the console launches.

I'm just really not seeing the point of concentrating on TV this much. How is TV even doing these days compared to other media? I thought more and more people were moving away from the classic form of watching TV. The Giant Bomb crew sure talks about it enough.

Posted by jonano

Remedy making a game/Tv show,Made me think that a Max Payne cable show would be FUCKING AWESOME!! And I know it is owned by Rockstar .

Edited by Thermonuclear
@graf1k said:

I hate to be "that guy" but we don't really know that none of the TV stuff will work in Europe. I mean, the ESPN/NFL stuff, probably not. But while it may roll out at a different pace, or in a slightly different manner, I can't imagine that cable providers and boxes are so much different as to make it an impossibility in Europe. Being that Europe is the second biggest, probably soon to be the biggest gaming market in the world, I'd imagine that Microsoft is going to do everything they can do bring as much of that functionality to Europe as they can manage. Again, the complete functionality of both these consoles is still so vague and inconclusive, nobody should be counting either Sony or Microsoft out yet. I mean, we literally don't even know the launch line ups, final price, or release date of either console yet. We don't even know what the PS4 looks like yet.

I think part of it maybe that it isn't that impressive as well. PS3 did something similar with that PlayTV in Europe that turned the PS3 into a digital receiver and DVR. I also think the future of TV to some extent is streaming and the current consoles also do a lot of that. The BBC streams all its stuff live and has done for years and some companies have started to make boxes that do TV and streaming services, basically Xbox One but without games, in other words what they showed at this event. So kinda everything they showed made it look like a system of the past not something trying to push the future.

Posted by graf1k

@graf1k said:

I hate to be "that guy" but we don't really know that none of the TV stuff will work in Europe. I mean, the ESPN/NFL stuff, probably not. But while it may roll out at a different pace, or in a slightly different manner, I can't imagine that cable providers and boxes are so much different as to make it an impossibility in Europe. Being that Europe is the second biggest, probably soon to be the biggest gaming market in the world, I'd imagine that Microsoft is going to do everything they can do bring as much of that functionality to Europe as they can manage. Again, the complete functionality of both these consoles is still so vague and inconclusive, nobody should be counting either Sony or Microsoft out yet. I mean, we literally don't even know the launch line ups, final price, or release date of either console yet. We don't even know what the PS4 looks like yet.

I think part of it maybe that it isn't that impressive as well. PS3 did something similar with that PlayTV in Europe that turned the PS3 into a digital receiver and DVR. I also think the future of TV to some extent is streaming and the current consoles also do a lot of that. The BBC streams all its stuff live and has done for years and some companies have started to make boxes that do TV and streaming services, basically Xbox One but without games, in other words what they showed at this event. So kinda everything they showed made it look like a system of the past not something trying to push the future.

I agree with you on that. Personally, the TV stuff doesn't interest me in the slightest as I'd rather watch the 5 or so shows I want to watch rather than pay for a crazy-big cable package.

Again though, my problem with a lot of the reaction to the press event is that people are acting like, because Microsoft focused on all this shit that a lot of us as gamer's don't care much about, that games are somehow taking a back seat or are now an afterthought, and it's just baffling to me. Right this second, I'm right there with the people that were a disappointed by what Microsoft showed. That said, Sony was hitting that point of "our platform is developer friendly" and whatnot specifically because that was their Achille's heal in the PS3 v. 360. They needed to drill that point home. Microsoft, not as much. They basically spearheaded the idea of a mid-level PC as a console, as far back as the original Xbox.

Currently, we know very little of the game line up for either console, which games are exclusives, the price, ect. For gamers, games will be the deciding factor in which console to get and, speaking for myself only, none of the exclusives Sony or Microsoft have shown are blowing my skirt up (Remedy's game is interesting, but what they showed wasn't enough to get me off my fence). Right now, I think Valve should be feeling pretty good about their position. Hell, Nintendo might even not be as screwed as I thought they were either.

tl;dr: Shit is still wide open.

Edited by Shingro

I desperately want to see Jeff do his "THERE'S BARIUM IN HER HAIR" paranoia-man riff on the Kinect's "I'm always watching and listening to you to better serve ads o___o" functionality.

Posted by CaptainSandwich

Yo, Don's grill is busted.

Posted by n0nametaz

I'm calling it the Xone or the NEXbox

Edited by Marokai

@c0l0nelp0c0rn1 said:

They have let us down because the Xbox One is going to be good for the industry, but not the consumer. The consumer is the only one taking a hit on this new console and the crew are obviously not concerned about that. "Whatever, I don't buy used games anyway" seems to be the prevailing thought, but there are plenty of people who do and they are the ones getting left out in the cold.

'Collusion' has taken on an unintentionally hilarious meaning on this site, but that's what was going through my mind during the Microsoft event; this is just a gross combining of industries and big name figures to make something as deliberately broad appeal as possible. Cable companies coming together with Microsoft, games weaving in TV show stories (cause, you know, Defiance is such a hit), bringing in an ex-Warner Bros and CBS woman to shill on how Xbox is going to be that-next-big-thing, and "hey! Steven Spielberg! I know that guy!" Halo! On the TV! Imagine that!

I can't remember if it was a week ago or the week before last, but I remember listening to Brad talk in the Bombcast about how he can't bring himself to get excited to watch movies anymore because practically all of them are almost deliberately bland, unoriginal, broad appeal, inoffensive summer blockbuster-style movies with very little to no edge. Microsoft is doing their damnedest to make their console and big named games go hand in hand with that sort of marketing philosophy.

I hate being deliberately provocative, but, the video game industry is at a kind of scary point at the moment, and left to their own devices, Microsoft, with the complacency of the consumers and the mainstream press, could very easily push the video game industry as we've know it to the backseat. If you're someone who is worried about a future where 95% of the video game industry slides into mediocrity ala the movie industry, peak outside of the ivory tower, stop giving people another inch and another inch and start being more pointed in their criticism.

Edited by MrKlorox

This holiday Microsoft is going to take you to the Bone Zone.

I like how Matrick said "the one" three times in the paragraph leading up to the proper pronouncement of the title. The whole time people were like, "just say the name already," while the look on his face said, "Suckers, I already did. Thrice."

Posted by PillClinton

Goddamnit, every time they say Xbox One, I think of the original Xbox. This is not good, and I now realize I hate the name Xbox One. They really Xboned it up with the name.

Edited by mrpandaman

@lukas said:

I was sort of disappointed by the MS event but man that name is great. And no one saw it coming.

XBOX One => XBO => Crossbow

XBOX One => XBox Won => XBox On

XBOX One =>XBONE

XBOX One =>XB1

XBOX One =>XBOXO

I wonder which abbreviation will be used.

Crossbow would be a cool name nickname, but man that actual name... is "great"...

Edited by MistaSparkle

Awwwwwwwww Yeaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

It's time for my regularly scheduled Bombcast, let's GET.IT.OWWWWN.

Edited by Dhank_Dave

Kaboom

Posted by CrazedMaverick

The #One #4 #U

Edited by Draxyle

When they were talking about how everyone was chasing Call of Duty money and then discussed how the Moba genre was going to be next. First thought in my head, "I wonder when an EA developed Moba game will be announced".

Two seconds later, Brad talks about an EA developed Moba that I never knew existed. Yer too predictable, EA.

Posted by Cypherix

I hate the spider talk :(

Posted by fox01313

Nice to hear more about the Xone, and agreed 100% who's seen a lot of Star Trek about how Mass Effect & Star Trek Online are probably the best games out there (in regards to that one email).

Edited by c0l0nelp0c0rn1

@marokai: After listening I think they were just excited about it being something new. However, it still smacks of the video game industry taking care of its own. I can't speak to the games or the presentation being bland because I have seen neither of them. Quantum Break sounds cool if only because of Remedy. Anyway, I'm just upset they didn't make more of a fuss about Xbox 360 downloadables not carrying over. If they treat it like the first Xbox then those games could be lost to time due to server outages.

Posted by SomeJerk

Microsoft make over a billion raw dollars a year from Live Gold subscriptions alone.

That's money going towards exclusive DLC and other moneyhatting, confirmed by MS.

It's 99.9% likely that cloud saves will remain paywalled like everything else on the XBone.

Posted by DudeSupreme

A missed opportunity to put the moving circles in the eyes of that picture.

Posted by Colt45

Push "Play" to see Mattrick's dimples.

Posted by tornadoaxman

This should have been called the "what if Xbox does all these things that they didn't introduce" podcast. Next time just give your Xbox a little hug and a kiss and move on.

Edited by sterbucks

I am thirsty bro.

Edited by FuriousJodo

@smcn said:

I feel like a broken record, but could someone please conjure up one of these mythical "wide audience" non-gamers that actually took time out of a work day to watch the reveal? I just can't wrap my head around it. I need to know if they actually exist or if it's just an attempt at rationalizing why the event was such a colossal dud.

They didn't need to, the highlights/etc all showed up on CNN, Local News, wherever else you may look. And if they really wanted to it's really easy to watch it On Demand in a few places.

Posted by gbrading

The whole "spiders drinking from your eyes" and "spiders running in your ears" what hilarious. :D

Posted by Shingro

People should remember that they probably recorded RIGHT after the livestream, they probably didn't have enough time to pick through all the investigation that people were doing into the anti-consumer things, nor did they probably know what stuff was going to be vetted or not. Chances are good they were remaining cautious...

That being said, usually I typify the bombcast as being the strongest opinions one way or another on the net, today they were the weakest. That was pretty weird.

Edited by Suits

#TheOne4U

Posted by advent_crash

I was just glad I got my Star Trek question answered and it caused some great conversation. Didn't mean to start a fight ha ha.

Posted by happymeowmeow

Loved Nuts and Bolts, it's really a shame it didn't sell better.

I'm calling it the Xbone until whatever the hell the mass consensus decides to call it happens. Might not be classy, but consoles don't really call for a lot of classiness in their names, it's a dirty ass business.

Edited by MattClassic

Something very similar to the ant candy bar happened to my brother when I was a little kid, except it was a really old pack of Dolly Madison donuts at a rest stop in West Virginia. It was horrifying. We both had night terrors over it.

Being reminded of it probably means I'm going to dream about it again very soon for the first time in 20 years. Thanks in advance, assholes. D:

Posted by ripelivejam

the XBONG :smoke:

Posted by lucslade

YES PLEASE!

Posted by laz0rbrain

Was laughing tears at the part with the spiders. I was flying back from the Xbox Event at the time and people probably thought there's something wrong with me :)

Also I think I was sitting behind Jeff while he was making that skype call. And I even thought at that time, that he may be recording for the podcast. Man I should have just waked by and said something stopid :)

Posted by Parsnip

I wonder how they plan to make that TV stuff work over here (Finland). I get my TV straight from the wall to the TV through a coax cable. My TV is the digital receiver/tuner/whatever. There's no extra box there that pushes out a HDMI signal.

Posted by Arath

Pretty funny how everyone is obsessed on how to abbreviate the name.

But what was Brad going on about regarding the PS3 letting us down? If anything Sony has really shown in the last couple of years that it's serious about it's games. I feel that if anything their reveal carried that philosophy forward. You could argue that from a developer standpoint and in terms of the launch they screwed up, but it's hard to fault Sony's PS3 strategy recently.

Anyway good podcast, but man did I have to skip the nightmare section, I am way too squeamish.

Edited by ThreeRoneC

1:03 best part. GERSTMANIA!

Edited by GreekTrojan

Am I the only one whose loved the Jeff free podcasts of the past few weeks? It feel like everyone is much more open to discuss/share ideas and its a bit more fun all around. Jeff is funny/great but to me it seems as if he dominates the conversion (tone/subject matter) way to much and it becomes much more of a Jeff-cast than anything. Its a shame that Patrick is going MIA from the pod soon as he seems to be shining without Jeff in tow.

Edited by Linkster7

FUCK YOU @brad AND YOUR STUPID SPIDER STORIES!
I'll never sleep again

Posted by untalkative_bunny

xbone is cool. x1 is easier. x1 wins.

Posted by ma_rc_01

@marokai: Wait, Halo? On the TV? That's crazy talk!

Posted by Accolade

Ladies and Gentleman, presenting the impeccable timing of Jeff via Skype!

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Posted by Krakn3Dfx

I'm excited about the idea of no XBox One talk this week.

But realistically, of course there will be.

Posted by Marokai

@krakn3dfx said:

I'm excited about the idea of no XBox One talk this week.

But realistically, of course there will be.

I don't understand why it's desirable for them to ignore literally the biggest news going on right now. I don't need to hear them go on for another hour and ahalf about it, but they already ignore plenty of news that they totally shouldn't.

Posted by Penzilneck

XBOZONE. Welcome to the BOZONE...layer.

Edited by TheElliotBee

DROP A BOMB ON IT!

Edited by TheElliotBee

@theelliotbee: Seriously guys, I want a new podcast. DROP A BOMB ON IT ALREADY!

Edited by TheYellingHorn

Hit me with 'dat bomb(cast)!

Posted by RaidenMitsuru

Where the FUCK is the new bombcast?

Posted by xantar

LateCAST