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@runcrash: I like it. Very good. I almost had it, but you cleaned up my version nicely.

I don't think he knew that he sold Anna to himself from other dimension.

Luteces. What "mistake" are you talking about? How did Luteces hire Booker? At the start he was very much "get the girl and wipe away the debt". He had no idea that Elizabeth=Anna, that he was trying to save his own daughter. What was the motivation for Luteces? Were Luteces trying to prevent the war? Or just undo the time loop? Why didn't Luteces themselves kill Booker during baptism then? Did they want to leave it up to Elizabeth and Booker?

Where did it say that burning New York takes place in 1984? Just curious, didn't notice that. Why did she bring Booker here, at that moment and not earlier? Would you agree with me that once she saw New York burning she started having doubts, regrets and decided to change? Why was the message so unnecessarily enigmatic with a drawing of a cage, instead of just saying in plain English - play notes C, A, G, E to control songbird?

The remark to previous games. I like the way it sounds with constants of a man, a lighthouse and a city. I really like it. Revisiting Rupture, its lighthouse and bathysphere was kinda cool. But it doesn't make sense to me. Now, I only played the original Bioshock and haven't touched the second one (I read about it) . I don't see the clear one-to-one correlation between characters ... there is no Elizabeth, there is no Comstock.

I mean Jack and Andrew Ryan are certainly not the same person and sure there are little sisters, but there is no "one true" Elizabeth. It takes place in a different time too. Yeah, Liz mentions variables and the time of the events I guess is up to a change, the location being different - it can happen in any city. But overall story should be the same, right? I also feel like it should be linked to a tear, a fork, a deciding point in time and for all Bioshocks it looks like the lighthouse is this point. I don't see why. Shouldn't it be baptism? Ignoring this Rapture bit I am very close to understanding the whole thing.

P.S. Somebody remind me what happens after big battle on the airship when Songbird helps you? The next thing I remember is Songbird drowning as you watch him from inside of some room in Rapture. Then you take bathysphere and go up to the lighthouse. What was the transition between being on the airship and being in Rapture!

P.P.S. Love this kind of discussions! It's been YEARS since I enjoyed game like this.